RE: The B-side saloons | Six of the Best
RE: The B-side saloons | Six of the Best
Saturday 1st April 2023

The B-side saloons | Six of the Best

From AMG to GSI, these fast four-doors didn't make the PH25 poll - but they're good'uns nonetheless


Jaguar S-Type R, 2007, 68k, £12,995

The PH25 vote could have featured many more Jags if we’d been feeling more generous; it’s produced more than its fair share of sumptuous super-saloons over the past 25 years. Were it not for the XFR being as brilliant as it is, the S-Type R it replaced might have got the nod: loads of supercharged V8 power, a finely honed Jag chassis, and a smart styling overhaul that almost made sense of the base car’s retro vibe. No wonder many now see the appeal in a supercharged S-Type, especially with values drastically undercutting rivals like the BMW M5 it always ran so close. This late one is low mileage and comes with a ‘very good service history’ - there are sillier ways to spend £12,995.

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Vauxhall Vectra GSI, 2000, 58k, £12,995

When did you last see one of these?! Back in the day, the hotted-up repmobile was big business, the fight for sales as competitive in the showrooms as it was on the BTCC rankings. And while cars like the Vectra GSI, Volvo S40 T4, Ford Mondeo ST200 and Nissan Primera GT were always rare - because buyers often preferred a lower-powered 3 Series to a flagship Mondeo - they’re now almost impossibly hard to find. Thank scrappage schemes and the fact that so many were so cheap for so long - they weren’t worth saving. All seems a pity. Makes this one even more interesting though, with fewer than 60,000 miles, lovely Velvet Green paint and even some period Irmscher accessories for a bit of early-2000s Max Power glamour. A V6 Vectra will be not better to drive now than it was 23 years ago, but since when did nostalgic lust care for that?

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BMW 550i, 2006, 54k, £9,995

What was once a crazily futuristic (and widely criticised) 5 Series now looks like a very tempting slice of classic BMW ubersaloon. The 550i was seldom seen even when new; those who wanted the 5 Series flagship had a mighty M5 to satisfy their every desire, and back when diesel was king the 535d was as fast - and far cheaper to run. Of course, the epic M car had to make the PH25 list, but those 550is still around now are intriguing, the 4.8-litre V8 and auto less notorious than the 5.0-litre V10/SMG combo and far more melodic than a diesel equivalent. This one, black wheels notwithstanding, seems especially good, debadged for maximum Q-car kudos and with some nice options like the sunroof, front and back heated seats and upgraded audio. Just 54k on it, too. With the even rarer manual, this E60 would tick every box. Still, a lot of BMW V8 for a fiver less than £10,000…

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Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG, 2005, 79k, £9,900

The Germans are good at this, aren’t they? The C55 may have been from AMG’s early-2000s era of stuffing fantastic engines in less than stellar cars - the C63 that followed this was better in every regard - but it’s hard to argue the small details when a 5.4-litre C-Class is being offered up at a four-figure sum. The W203 C55 looked musclebound when the equivalent Audi S4 toted a mere 4.2-litre V8; 20 years after the fact it seems borderline unbelievable. With 367hp and 376lb ft attempting to turn the C-Class inside out, the 55 was capable of 0-62mph in 5.2 seconds - some going for a rear-wheel drive car with a five-speed auto. This particular one isn’t perfect - apparently the air con needs attention - but the interior looks to have held up well, the gold looks great, and small saloons with humongous V8s will always tickle the PH pickle - especially at £9,900.

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VW Passat CC 3.6 V6, 2008, 48k, £12,995

We were always going to be dealing with rare cars here, but here’s a true unicorn: the Passat CC 3.6 V6. VW’s niche four-door coupe thing, powered by the R36’s sonorous V6, albeit with none of the sporting pretence. Cool thing now, but a miracle any found buyers a decade and a half ago. Somehow there is a brace of them available on PH, and the appeal of that engine for £5k will be plain to anyone with hearing. The boat has been pushed out for this one, however, more than double the price of the cheap one but with fewer than half the miles. It’s a Japanese import, too, which would explain the funky spec: Fluid Brown Metallic (yes, really), small wheels, wood and aluminium inside… it’s a find alright. As is often also the way with JDM-sourced cars, though, it looks in fine fettle, a wallet-draining sight for sore eyes (and sound for sore ears?) for many years to come.

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Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6, 2000, 60k, £6,990

The 156 GTA was always going to make the PH25 saloons shortlist: a car that looks and sounds as it does was guaranteed a spot. But there remains plenty to like about the ordinary 2.5 V6 variant, not least the fact it probably had the appropriate amount of power (190hp vs. 250hp) for the chassis to handle. It can be hard to recall all these later, but when the 156 launched (just a short time before PH, in fact) it was a real contender in the compact exec class, blessed with zesty engines, great handling plus, of course, those suave good looks inside and out. Even this one’s ludicrous spoiler and dubious wood can’t spoil that. Another real rarity (GTAs were always prized; these not as much), this V6 benefits from a recent clutch and cambelt. With just 60,000 miles and in what seems like really nice condition, there’s a lot to like. Almost half the price of the Vectra, too…

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Please don't forget to have your say in the latest PH25 poll - cast your vote for the best saloon here!

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Discussion

spikyone

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

130 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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I trust this is PH's April Fool story? What a horrid list. 3 of the cars - the Vectra, BMW, and Merc - I would not touch with a bargepole, the wind deflectors and painted black wheels are massive red flags on any used car, as well as looking awful. Just a massive no to all of them from me, I'd rather set fire to the money being asked.

SimonTheSailor

13,020 posts

258 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Why you would spend more money on a Vectra or S-Type over a C55 is beyond me !!

jwwbowe

705 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Imagine spending £13k on a vectra rofl

Though I do admit the looks of this generation GSI have grown on me getmecoat

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Not sure I could buy a gold Merc; certainly an interesting choice.

I like the idea of the 550i, just not that one.

That Vectra seems rather punchy price wise.

There’s a reason most of these didn’t make the shortlist….this feels more Z list than B sides.

Turbobanana

8,484 posts

231 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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spikyone said:
Just a massive no to all of them from me, I'd rather set fire to the money being asked.
Go on then. Pop a video up, I'm sure we'd all like to see that.

Earl of Petrol

552 posts

152 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Why would this be an April Fool?
Interesting bunch, I’d choose the Alfa as it’s V6 will sound lovely. And despite having a downer on virtually everything VW I quite like this one.
The Vectra is interesting in the same way that 80’s-noughties hot hatches all seem to be now. Hence the prices.
The 5 looks chavved and I’d steer clear.

Fiedka

201 posts

79 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Disagree with writing off the 5 series.
Wheels are horrid and would have to go back to original colour on the first day purchase but I like the Q-car silver and the fact that it looks like a 520d.
Change/refurbish the wheels and I am good.
Shame it’s not. Manual though and the price is too steep.

georgeyboy12345

4,633 posts

65 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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I’d have the Merc out of all those

yme402

664 posts

132 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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spikyone said:
I trust this is PH's April Fool story? What a horrid list. 3 of the cars - the Vectra, BMW, and Merc - I would not touch with a bargepole, the wind deflectors and painted black wheels are massive red flags on any used car, as well as looking awful. Just a massive no to all of them from me, I'd rather set fire to the money being asked.
Fully agree….wind deflectors and black wheels rule out any car for me. As black wheels go, the ones on that e60 are truly horrific. Bangle designs are very colour and wheel specific. Get it right and they are a glorious piece of early 2000s design. Get it wrong as they have in this case, and they can look shocking. The Busso- engined Alfa looks the best buy here to me, although that comedy rear spoiler would have to go despite it being OEM standard. I believe there was an option when new of a smaller one to be fitted at the factory.

wpa1975

14,754 posts

144 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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£13k for a Vectra rofl

It does not seem that long ago it would have been a £2k car at best.

pb8g09

3,255 posts

99 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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All seem like a lot of money for some very old metal. Don’t think I’d want to spend over £5k on any of these, truth be told.

I’d probably take the Merc or the Passat out of these but I’d rather save another £5k and spend £15k on something more modern.

trevalvole

2,079 posts

63 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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I'm not sure about a trader selling a car (the Merc) at £10k with non-working air con and driver's heated seat?! They can't be the most difficult things to fix.

I don't personally like wind defectors, but I do know people who would be considered pillars of the community who really look after their cars who have them, so as with all generalisations, they don't necessarily hold true.

S600BSB

8,485 posts

136 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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One of the worst ever lists on PH? Awful.

911Spanker

3,705 posts

46 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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wpa1975 said:
£13k for a Vectra rofl

It does not seem that long ago it would have been a £2k car at best.
Price does seem punchy but didn't this Vectra get really good reviews when launched?

Seem to remember some of the press saying it was better than the equivalent Mondeo..?

Which if true makes it one of the better driving cars in this list.

cerb4.5lee

44,922 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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It is fantastic to see a GSi again for me, and I absolutely loved those back in the day. I've always loved the 550i as well. This list has put a smile on my face thanks.

wpa1975

14,754 posts

144 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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911Spanker said:
wpa1975 said:
£13k for a Vectra rofl

It does not seem that long ago it would have been a £2k car at best.
Price does seem punchy but didn't this Vectra get really good reviews when launched?

Seem to remember some of the press saying it was better than the equivalent Mondeo..?

Which if true makes it one of the better driving cars in this list.
Yes they are well respected and the work that MSD carried out in converting them from standard V6's transforms them but £13k is nuts, £5k tops.

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

230 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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911Spanker said:
Price does seem punchy but didn't this Vectra get really good reviews when launched?

Seem to remember some of the press saying it was better than the equivalent Mondeo..?

Which if true makes it one of the better driving cars in this list.
Agree, I’d pass on all of those examples.

cerb4.5lee

44,922 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Court_S said:
I like the idea of the 550i, just not that one.
Same(I much prefer the M Sport to the SE). It is such a lovely engine to sit behind and use as well, and it is right up there with the best engines that I've owned too.

NH-0

710 posts

126 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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ST220 wink

Patrick Bateman

13,202 posts

204 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Choosing one of these would be a no brainer- Jag.