RE: Porsche Cayenne updated - but Turbo GT culled
RE: Porsche Cayenne updated - but Turbo GT culled
Tuesday 18th April 2023

Porsche Cayenne updated - but Turbo GT culled

New Cayenne gets everything it needs to see out internal combustion - but Turbo GT is withdrawn from Europe


A new Porsche Cayenne has been revealed at the Shanghai motor show. The first thing you need to know is that it’s not an all-new car. This is not the all-electric Cayenne that we know is coming eventually. Nor is it to be confused with the even bigger SUV - codenamed 'K1' -  that the company is working on, which is due sometime in 2027. That will be based on the VW Group’s forthcoming SSP (Scalable Systems Platform), which is the dedicated EV platform that the next-gen, all-electric Macan will use.

So, while Porsche has dug deep with its overhaul, it's fair to call the new Cayenne a facelift. Especially because it looks very similar to the car you could've ordered until recently. This new version has slightly different headlights, grille and rear styling details – it's more in ya face now. There are three more exterior colours, too, different wheel options ranging from 20 to 22 inches and a lightweight sports package for the Coupé that saves up to 33kg. You also get LED matrix headlights as standard across the range, but there’s a new optional HD matrix headlight system offered as an option with more than 32,000 pixels per headlamp. That’s a lot of pixels.

Inside, it’s a new take on the Taycan theme. The Cayenne now comes with the same un-cowled, 12.6-inch digital instrument screen with a gear selector toggle switch next to it. In the middle of the dashboard is the main 12.3-inch infotainment screen with updated software and next to that there’s an optional 10.9-inch passenger screen – a first for the Cayenne but another carryover from the Taycan. This ‘enriches the front passenger’s driving experience by displaying performance data, providing separate access to the infotainment system controls and, depending on the market, the option of streaming video content on the road.’

Thankfully, the Cayenne doesn’t follow the Taycan’s lead when it comes to the climate and stereo controls. The Taycan shoves these onto yet another screen below the infotainment, but the Cayenne sticks with a more conventional approach – mounting switches on the centre console. Some of the buttons are touch sensitive - because you cannot have everything you want in life - but at least the ones for changing the basics, like the cabin temperature, are still physical knobs. Porsche reckons this is ‘the right balance between digital and analogue elements.’

As with the outgoing range, models lower down the order come with steel springs and PASM, but now have two-valve dampers that control compression and rebound separately. Cars fitted with air suspension also have two-valve damping along with two-chamber air springs. Either way, we’re told there is an improvement to the ride and handling, with less pitch and roll. Also, there’s a greater distinction between the car in Normal, Sport and Sport Plus driving modes.

Three engines are available in the UK, and all have more performance than before. The entry-level 3.0 V6 now has 353hp and 369lf ft ­– that’s a modest increase of 13hp and 37lb ft. More interestingly - and unusually, for this day and age - the Cayenne S is now a V8 instead of a V6, with 474hp and 443lb ft. That’s a boost of 34hp and 37lb ft and drops the 0-62mph time to 4.7 seconds (it used to be 5.2 seconds).

The Cayenne E-Hybrid has a higher-power motor peaking at 176hp, so the system output when you add in the 3.0-litre V6 comes out at 470hp. The battery size has gone from 17.9kWh to 25.9kWh, so it’s got a longer electric range, too – up to 56 miles. And you can top it up faster thanks to the new 11 kW onboard charger, which will charge the battery in as little as two-and-a-half hours.

You may be wondering where the Turbo GT features. Well, it doesn’t, not here anyway. The Turbo GT will continue outside Europe – and with even more power (659hp) – but it’s been dropped from the range in the UK. According to our sources at Porsche, it was a demise planned long before we hit publish on last weekend's twin test, although officially why is unclear. Unofficially, it sounds like it's probably to do with the ticklish problem of fleet emissions. So you'll need to make your peace with the Lamborghini Urus Performante if you want as much as 666hp from your V8-powered SUV - or live with 474hp in the new Cayenne S. First world problems, eh? 

There’s extra equipment for the revised Cayenne range, too, but also a substantial increase in cost. UK prices are out and the entry-level Cayenne now costs £67,400 (it was £63,700). The cheapest Coupé is £70,300, while the cheapest E-Hybrid is yours for £76,800 while the S starts at £80,800. Ordering is open from today with first deliveries from July 2023.


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whp1983

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I know Porsche are option extra masters but dare I say it seems good value! The base cost seems much lower than rivals for a much nicer product.

Kipsrs

718 posts

79 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I was just thinking exactly the same, cracking value!

KPB1973

938 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I also looked at those prices and caught myself thinking 'that's cheap'...before realising it's still about £50k more than I can afford.

Wab1974uk

1,414 posts

57 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Will anyone notice a 33kg weight saving in a 2.5 tonne SUV?

Shame the Turbo GT has been dropped, but I guess we have the EU to thank for that. Fels like it's only been on sale for less than a year.

Also, why not drop the 2.9V6 from the Macan into the cayenne? Has more power in both Macan S & GTS flavours. 380 & 440bhp.

Hereward

5,128 posts

260 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Looks very elegant compared to the recent BMW SUV-thingy.

TheMilkyBarKid

881 posts

59 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Kipsrs said:
I was just thinking exactly the same, cracking value!
And me. In a world of £50K Civic’s and Golfs (good as they are) and 60K electric Skodas and VW ID’s these are one of the few cars these days where I see the price and think ‘that’s not as much as I was expecting’. Of course £70K plus is still a lot of money and you’ll probably end up adding £8-10K in extras, but it’s all relative.

T1berious

2,675 posts

185 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Kipsrs said:
I was just thinking exactly the same, cracking value!
In a world of 100k plus BMW's..... you know, it does look like good value.

Gosh, who knew?

Mosdef

1,849 posts

257 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
Will anyone notice a 33kg weight saving in a 2.5 tonne SUV?

Shame the Turbo GT has been dropped, but I guess we have the EU to thank for that. Fels like it's only been on sale for less than a year.

Also, why not drop the 2.9V6 from the Macan into the cayenne? Has more power in both Macan S & GTS flavours. 380 & 440bhp.
Porsche have already used that engine in the Cayenne, it was the S version.

Sulphur Man

302 posts

163 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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T1berious said:
In a world of 100k plus BMW's..... you know, it does look like good value.

Gosh, who knew?
It is. And it's curious. Could this be a combustion fightback?

130R

7,110 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I've had a Cayenne as a courtesy car a couple of times and they drive really well. It's quite a big car but even the base model has a nice engine with enough power.

Chubbyross

5,002 posts

115 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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In typical Porsche fashion the evolution strategy has paid off. This has turned into a really fine looking SUV. It was such an ugly ducking when first launched but it’s a handsome thing now and probably the only SUV I’d chose.

Presuming Ed

1,701 posts

238 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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They do look rather old hat when compared to a Rangie but I guess there a fair bit cheaper. It does seem as though the Cayenne is due a massive re-fresh as it looks the same as the model they were flogging 10 years ago. Is it still based on the Touraeg?


breadvan

2,121 posts

198 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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What's with the Bullseye photos of the GT?


Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Sulphur Man said:
T1berious said:
In a world of 100k plus BMW's..... you know, it does look like good value.

Gosh, who knew?
It is. And it's curious. Could this be a combustion fightback?
I would ask if it's the opposite - the end is nigh and these will be becoming a much harder sell even in Hybrid form?

So they may as well support some volume to keep manufacturing costs reasonable with a decent price, but to me it smacks of having to not wanting to. All good news for those that want one though.

J210

5,211 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Surprised the Porsche GB site has no mention of the car and a new configurator.


kmpowell

3,547 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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J210 said:
Surprised the Porsche GB site has no mention of the car and a new configurator.
Ditto.

Porsche, historically, have always had the website and configurator updated just before press releases go out.

Porscheandrangerover

104 posts

83 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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If we get the synthetic petrol that’s being talked about, will ICE develop?
And if yes bring me the GT!

foxhounduk

704 posts

210 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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The price is the most surprising thing. Well done Porsche.

D4rez

1,668 posts

86 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Porscheandrangerover said:
If we get the synthetic petrol that’s being talked about, will ICE develop?
And if yes bring me the GT!
You won’t get it

MountainsofSussex

447 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Porscheandrangerover said:
If we get the synthetic petrol that’s being talked about, will ICE develop?
And if yes bring me the GT!
No we won't get it any time soon, and it'll be ruinously expensive, so certainly won't be for the masses. And almost everyone has already stopped developing ICE, so the supply chain will contract and all the parts will get more expensive, making ICE expensive not only to run, but also to buy. If museum piece Lambos and the like that never reach 10,000 miles use ICE, it won't be a bad thing for the environment