RE: Peugeot 508 SW PSE | Spotted
RE: Peugeot 508 SW PSE | Spotted
Sunday 7th May 2023

Peugeot 508 SW PSE | Spotted

£56k price tag put you off? Depreciation, do your thing...


Here’s a French curiosity that makes zero sense on paper, zero sense in reality and yet somehow managed to burrow under the skin and warm the cockles of any cold heart. The Peugeot 508 SW PSE (or Peugoet Sport Engineered if you want to follow the company line) is a hybrid performance estate that doesn’t particularly major on outright pace, nor does it offer the sort of driver engagement more conventional sports wagons offer. The real kicker? It’s just shy of £56,000.

This may come as a surprise then, but the 508 PSE hasn’t been a runaway success. Not in Britain, at least. There were 101 cars registered in the UK as of the end of 2022, according to HowManyLeft. That number may have crept up a bit in the subsequent five months, but probably not enough to turn the PSE into a roaring success after two-and-a-bit years on sale. That’s probably mostly due to the pricing, but also perhaps due to confusion around what the PSE actually is. Take the opportunity to actually spend a bit of time with one, though, you’ll quickly learn that the enigmatic estate is a surprisingly satisfying performance car.

I did just that a few years back and, admittedly, I didn’t gel with the 508 PSE immediately. Though a combined 360hp from a 1.6-litre turbo four-cylinder with hybrid assistance isn’t Earth-shattering even on paper, I had hoped for more of a ‘shove’ from the two electric motors under acceleration. The eight-speed automatic gearbox was decent enough when left to its own devices, but the paddles on the back of the steering wheel were more of a distraction than an enticing means of changing gear for yourself.

A quick drive outside a dealership then will reveal a competent, if slightly lethargic sports estate. But show the PSE a set of bends, and a surprisingly capable chassis reveals itself. While the steering is devoid of feel, the PSE is quick to respond to steering inputs. Adaptive dampers let you roll around in suitably French fashion in comfort mode, but flicking over to sport sharpens the ride up considerably without compromising on rolling refinement. This is a 1,875kg estate car and yet, somehow, it’s completely flat in the corners. Granted, the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S rubber does its fair share of the heavy lifting, but there’s no denying Peugeot Sport worked a fair amount of wonders on the 508.

It looks the business, too. Some may argue that the flicks along the skirts are a touch tacky, and those stickers look as though they’ll peel off after a thorough wash - but isn’t that part of the Gallic charm? Besides, French performance cars always look better when all the stickers begin to fade and peel, right? Okay, so the lime green-on-grey scheme isn’t nearly as evocative as the Peugeot Talbot Sport colours, but they tie PSE’s motorsport exploits with the wild 9X8 hypercar to its road offerings neatly enough. 

‘Great', you're saying - 'but it’s still expensive.’ Well, not so much. A year on from rolling off the forecourt – and after just 4,000 miles of electrified exuberance – this 508 SW PSE is up for £43,557. That’s an almighty discount. Don’t forget it’ll be cheap as chips to tax and it's a PHEV, too, which means up to 26 miles of battery power - potentially enough to make it very cheap to run indeed. Probably no amount of charm would've made the PSE an easy sell when new, but it's well on its way to being a much more compelling secondhand purchase...


SPECIFICATION | PEUGEOT 508 SW PEUGEOT SPORT ENGINEERED

Engine: 1,598cc four-cylinder, turbocharged plus two electric motors
Transmission: eight-speed automatic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 360@6,000rpm (combined)
Torque (lb ft): 384@2,500 (combined)
MPG: 141
CO2: 46g/km
Year registered: 2022
Recorded mileage: 4,000
Price new: £55,795
Yours for: £43,557

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big_rob_sydney

Original Poster:

3,671 posts

224 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I would have like to know how it fared compared to its competitors. As it is £43k? I wouldn't pay half that. Everyone knows French cars depreciate strongly; you'll be left losing your shirt in depreciation. Why would you, when there are solid alternatives?

E30KB

304 posts

94 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I would have trouble remembering where I parked that.

Zammy

709 posts

193 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I love the look of it and looks even better in the flesh...now it just needs to lower those price numbers a bit more!

Matt_T

1,297 posts

104 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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This is assuming that the 103 they sold in the UK were at list price. I suspect that Peugeot were offering healthy discounts to get them shifted.

blank

3,765 posts

218 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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This looks perfect for me on paper.

Bet if it had a VW or Skoda badge they'd be selling as many as they could build.

Bonefish Blues

36,667 posts

253 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Give it a year or few and that's a nice thing to own. Shame they're not doing a jacked-up version like the old RXH.

0ddball

916 posts

169 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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It would be a brave man who owns one of these out of warranty.

swisstoni

24,079 posts

309 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Because of their rarity I fear that these aren’t going to depreciate quite like a French barge of old.

yme402

664 posts

132 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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At £43K it is still hardly a bargain. I was expecting to see £19,995.

spookly

4,393 posts

125 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I liked the look of these when they first came out and went straight to the Peugeot website to look at the price. Then laughed at the price.

So, it's heavy, has poor steering feel, doesn't feel particularly fast, is still expensive, and will depreciate like a rock. Reliability could be anywhere from good to catastrophic. Still a no from me. It would need to be well under £20k to even consider it.

ducnick

2,276 posts

273 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I had no idea how many Peugeot dealers there were in the U.K. now I know the answer. 101 in total presumably, if every dealer principal registered one of these.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

211 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I wondered about these as a replacement for my 6 year old Mercedes e350 estate. I just could not justify it due to the depreciation. I based my maths on the idea of a 5 year old similar Peugeot and whilst not exactly the same car you see it lose about 75% within that period. So maybe when they're very second hand they might be interesting... but by then they'll also be broken. So more than likely will never own or drive one of these.

Hub

7,148 posts

228 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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I agree with the other comments that they still have a long way to fall. A good looking car though, well - outside anyway! An interesting and quirky choice if you want something different.

PSB1967

501 posts

186 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Not that 'cheap as chips to tax' as it attracts the additional £390 p/a luxury car tax for 5 years, so £560 total.

I like the look of them but as other say, it has much more depreciaiton to do. Here's one that has allegedly lost £16K in a year and under 8K mikes. (Spookily the same £2 a mile my local taxi firm charge!)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303305...

HTP99

25,326 posts

170 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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ducnick said:
I had no idea how many Peugeot dealers there were in the U.K. now I know the answer. 101 in total presumably, if every dealer principal registered one of these.


Yep, every single one of these will have been originally either a Peugeot HQ car or a dealer demo likely foisted on specific dealers, when announced all dealer sales staff would have gone "why!" whilst back at Peugeot HQ all the graduate managers would have been patting themselves on the back whilst gushing about this car and how it will be the model to compete with the Germans.

Nish Gnackers

1,173 posts

71 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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It's a well known fact that large French cars depreciate 40 % per annum. So your £56k car will be worth around £12k after 3 years. wink



Edited by Nish Gnackers on Monday 8th May 09:47

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Well for me, I think it looks fantastic! Granted, it's not that dynamic by the sounds of things, but as a daily wagon it would be a great car...as soon as it drops to French car values of course.

Jamescrs

6,458 posts

95 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Company I work for has a fleet deal with Peugeot and a senior manager has one of these in the exact same colour, he doesn't rate it at all but it was the best option he had as a company car.
I would guess that due to the fleet contract it cost the organisation about 50% of the RRP, I know we are getting the lower spec GT line models for around half RRP if not less.

My issue with the 508 in general is that it is a PITA to get in and out of for anyone at or over 6 foot tall, I am 6ft4 and I have to be very careful not to bang my head on the way in and it looks awkward me getting out again.

They aren't the worst cars but I wouldn't have one for myself at even half the RRP and I doubt any of those registered have been sold to a private buyer at a dealership.

valiant

14,248 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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0ddball said:
It would be a brave man who owns one of these out of warranty.
Why?

There’s nothing on it that should cause alarm. Brakes will be expensive but that’s really about it.

Holding their money extremely well and provide a decent left field choice from the alternatives.

Mr_Sukebe

390 posts

238 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Isn’t that engine the 1.6 Prince engine, as also used in the Mini R56?

That’s an engine that I wouldn’t touch with a bargepole.