RE: McLaren confirms new Ricardo-built V8 hybrid
RE: McLaren confirms new Ricardo-built V8 hybrid
Tuesday 9th May 2023

McLaren confirms new Ricardo-built V8 hybrid

Electrified eight-cylinder engine to join Artura V6 in new powertrain agreement


Since 2011, Ricardo has produced more than 30,000 powertrains for McLaren. The vast majority of those have been either the 3.8- or 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8, but latterly has included the Artura’s 3.0-litre V6 as well. Now McLaren has announced that Ricardo will continue to supply its automotive division with power units as part of a ‘long-term investment deal’, which is set to include a brand-new hybridised V8.

Not so long ago, news of a supercar manufacturer sticking with a V8 would have barely registered; that McLaren can continue to make the case for an engine larger than the Artura’s feels hugely significant. A McLaren designed unit, the all-new engine will go into the next generation of Woking-built hybrid supercars, presumably kicking off with whatever the car after the 750S - a rival for Lamborghini’s plug-in V8 Huracan replacement, no less - turns out to be. Ricardo is set to invest further at its Shoreham engine production facility as part of the new agreement.

Interestingly, Ricardo CEO Graham Ritchie said that the deal “extends the long-term relationship between both companies into the next decade”, the assumption being that the new V8 McLarens will continue to exist in the 2030s. Expected, given the bulk of the firm’s output and the global nature of its sales, but it’s nice to read it in black and white. The company would not be drawn on how the exemption of e-fuels will affect its future, although it’s safe to say that Woking is studying the development every bit as keenly as its rivals. Which, of course, makes the continued production of a V8 rather convenient. 

McLaren Automotive CEO Michael Leiters added: “Our new high-performance, hybrid V8 powertrain will form an integral part of McLaren’s next-generation product line-up delivering best-in-class performance and thrilling driver engagement…This new agreement with Ricardo is, therefore, an important part of our ‘Future of Performance’ strategy and builds on the enduring relationship between the two British companies, providing a boost for jobs and ensuring increased investment in what is a vitally important domestic engineering supply chain for future technologies.”


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GTRene

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22,606 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Good news I guess, lovely engines, no idea how they drive though, never driven in such McLaren.

964Cup

1,628 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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GTRene said:
Good news I guess, lovely engines, no idea how they drive though, never driven in such McLaren.
I didn't like the Artura. I hope the 750 replacement a) has regen and b) has more drama. In the meantime I shall enjoy the 750.

NGK210

5,062 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Great news.
ICE turbo + efuel + self-charging battery = the future.
This is the Way.

D4rez

1,668 posts

86 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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NGK210 said:
Great news.
ICE turbo + efuel + self-charging battery = the future.
This is the Way.
Maybe for the Uber-rich in the EU. Definitely not in the mass market

ImFeelingSaucy

499 posts

54 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Are McLaren paying their suppliers now?


anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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ImFeelingSaucy said:
Are McLaren paying their suppliers now?
Glad I'm not the only one wondering this...

GingerMunky

1,285 posts

287 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Thought Ricardo was at Red Bull now wink

ManyMotors

1,108 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Appears to be a late response to the SF90. Mikey needs to pull off some heroics real soon as some PH commenters put McLaren in the grave.

I note Ricardo likely doesn't have any choice but to help McLaren. Per today's trading that company has a market cap of 360 million GBP ($450 million), which means McLaren's business must be important to such a small entity.


Sandpit Steve

15,294 posts

104 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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Glad to see someone announcing a new V8, and it’s British too. Was worried when McLaren announced the V6, that the time was up for eight cylinders.

Wab1974uk

1,412 posts

57 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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Hopefully it'll work better than the hybrid V6 which has come under criticism.

smilo996

3,857 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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appears to have been a very successful partnership with Ricardo but do Ricardo make engines for anyone else?
on paper, looked like a very left field tie up.

Sandpit Steve

15,294 posts

104 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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smilo996 said:
appears to have been a very successful partnership with Ricardo but do Ricardo make engines for anyone else?
on paper, looked like a very left field tie up.
They’ve a very long history of making advanced powertrains. Working with JLR and others on deployment and production at the moment. McLaren is definitely one of the larger customers though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_PLC

skidskid

329 posts

171 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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smilo996 said:
appears to have been a very successful partnership with Ricardo but do Ricardo make engines for anyone else?
on paper, looked like a very left field tie up.
Ricardo dont make too much stuff or engines directly, they are mainly a consultancy service. OEM's contract them to things from clean sheet engine designs, engine improvement projects, benchmarking, test bench rental, FEA service etc. I've worked with them on a range of engines from automotive to large industrial engines, they also carried out things like the JCB diesel land speed record engine and had a large hand in the foggy petronas superbike.

They are the brains behind a lot of things you'd know.

HighwayStar

4,876 posts

174 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
Hopefully it'll work better than the hybrid V6 which has come under criticism.
Do elaborate..

starsky67

526 posts

43 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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D4rez said:
NGK210 said:
Great news.
ICE turbo + efuel + self-charging battery = the future.
This is the Way.
Maybe for the Uber-rich in the EU. Definitely not in the mass market
And not in the U.K. were 80% of sales need to be full EV by 2030. Expect a BEV SUV shortly to make up the numbers and allow them to continue to sell hybrid super cars after 2030?

amstrange1

617 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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smilo996 said:
appears to have been a very successful partnership with Ricardo but do Ricardo make engines for anyone else?
on paper, looked like a very left field tie up.
It is/was a bit left-field - traditionally Ricardo were an engineering consultancy, not a Tier1 supplier.

The engine plant in Shoreham was built specifically for production of the old McLaren V8. In fairness they did have some niche manufacturing heritage prior to that with the Veyron transmission being built in Leamington.

nismo48

7,138 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Glad to see someone announcing a new V8, and it’s British too. Was worried when McLaren announced the V6, that the time was up for eight cylinders.
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