RE: Land Rover Defender 110 D300 | PH Fleet
RE: Land Rover Defender 110 D300 | PH Fleet
Sunday 21st May 2023

Land Rover Defender 110 D300 | PH Fleet

Of course we love the Defender - but could we actually live (and work) with one full-time? John aims to find out


It turns out I am quite unusual for a motoring journalist. Now, you might be thinking, “Yeah, we know that: can’t write, can’t drive, doesn’t know one end of a car from another.” Yes, yes, but besides all that. In a decade of trying to find my way around a keyboard and writing about cars, I’ve never, not once, run a long-term test car. I am pretty sure that puts me in a very select crowd, at least of the journalists who've written for household titles. And it’s not because I’ve been writing for the Kidderminster Gazette, by the way. I’ve written for many of the big car mags, and all of those had enough reach and clout to justify one had I so wished.

The reason I’ve never run one is, well, I suppose I was lucky. Lucky firstly to get a foot in the door and start writing full stop, but luckier still to end up not on the news desk - where most people kick start their writing careers - but as a road tester. Now, the thing about road testing is you’re always in and out of different cars. What’s the point in running a long-termer, I thought? I’ll never get the chance to drive it, which is why I didn’t have one. All of which makes the idea of running our new long-term Land Rover Defender 110 a new and exciting experience for me.

But you have to justify to the manufacturer and to your editor why you want a long-termer, and then explain what you want to do with it. And my arguments about not having to adjust the seat to my liking every time I get in a car and being able to fill up its glovebox with crap – my own, glorious crap; the crap that makes a car a home – weren’t deemed ‘good enough’ reasons. Bloody cheek if you ask me. That really was a big part of it, though. It’s a true privilege to have many, many cars delivered to your door each week, but the sense that a car is your car (even if that isn’t really the case here), with your own accoutrements secreted in every pore, is such a pleasure. One I’ve sorely missed over the years.  But as it happens, I do have some other, more serious, reasons for wanting to live with this Defender 110 for six months. 

The first is I was so hugely impressed with the new Defender when I first drove one a few years ago, which was a surprise. I’ve written plenty of times about how I spent a lot of my time growing up driving, or being driven in, Land Rovers of old. That was on our family farm in the Brecon Beacons (oops, sorry, they’ve changed the name now to Banana Demagog or something). We always had Land Rovers, and I won’t lie, I always hated them. Every one of them was slow, noisy, leaky, uncomfortable and, by the age of 12, I couldn’t fit in ‘em, either. The only good thing I can say about the old Land Rover is they were certainly rough-and-tumble workhorses.

When the new car was announced, I thought it was going to be nothing like as toughty. It would be a car built for people who wanted to be thought of as rough and tumble, as they pulled up outside Virgin Active for their Pilates lesson with Jemimah. But, it turns out, I was wrong. I am happy to admit it, too. The new Defender might have digital screens, and this one has a white leather interior (I wanted a boggo spec with steel wheels, by the way) but it still feels utilitarian enough to me. Inside, the floor covering is rubber, not carpet. There are bits of exposed metal and screw heads, and also big knobs and buttons that you can use while wearing gloves in the depths of winter. All things that make it feel right or make work in the real world.

There are also cues from the past that help it work as a farm vehicle today. I'm not talking about its differential locks or truly massive ground clearance. Some of this involves simple things, like the shelf that runs the length of the dashboard. The old Land Rover had that, too, and it’s perfect if you’re out and about on the farm. You can shove all the odds and sods you might need on it, like bits of rope, dog leads, fencing staples, and a hammer to hit your thumb with while knocking the staples in. So reason number one for running this new Defender is I want to see if, despite its white leather and privacy glass, it genuinely does work as a farm vehicle in every way. For some of the time, at least, that’s how I’ll be using it. It will be trudging up farm tracks and across fields, carrying materials, and, very possibly, the odd sheep or two.

Reason number two: I want to see if it’s truly moved the game on from the old Defender. Does it work as an all-rounder? As a road car, as well as a farm hack? It’s all very well being useful out in the fields, but ultimately a Defender is not a tractor. I want to be able to get in it and drive back to London, once all the farmering is done, without feeling like I’ve picked up the keys to my Massey Ferguson by mistake. Are the seats comfortable? Is it quiet on the motorway? Does it steer properly? Can it pull the skin of a rice pudding, should I find myself behind a rice pudding (by which I mean someone dawdling along painfully in a Vauxhall Mokka X) on a country road? There are a several good off-roaders, but few of those work really well on-road, too.

Reason number three: just how good is it off-road? As you can see from the photographs, we’ve already been splashing around in some puddles and getting our Defender a bit muddy. But while it might look dramatic, this wasn’t proper off-roading. I want to do some proper off-roading in our Defender. More arduous even than driving around a Welsh hill farm. I haven’t worked out where, yet, but I am minded to find some punishing place that can truly challenge it to the max. Feel free to send us any suggestions, but I took my old Discovery TDi 300 to Devil’s Pit many moons ago. That’s an abandoned quarry in Barton-le-Clay and is fully gruesome when the clay is wet, so that’s on the list of potentials.

Finally, reason number four: is it, actually, when all is said and done, interesting? Ostensibly, the Defender is considered interesting because it replaced a car that was 200 years old. But what about now some of that newness-based novelty has worn off? After all, interesting cars are what we’re all about at PH - and, for me, any car can be interesting. It doesn’t have to be fast or handle well, or even be expensive or rare. It just needs to entertain in some form or another. It also needs to be fit for purpose and live up to the hype, and let’s be frank here: the new Defender was not short on hype before and after its launch. So, now, in light of the dust settling, let’s see if it lives up to its billing.

In short then, I'm properly excited by my first long-term experience, and for lots of reasons beyond the fact the glove box is already chocka. It’s something new for me and I hope, by the time our six-month tenure comes to an end, we’ll have been able to show you what life with a Defender is like beyond a trip to the tip. And I am hoping that the Series III that you see accompanying our 110 in the pictures is an omen of good things to come.

While it might look staged, the Series III's presence happened by complete and very fortuitous coincidence. You see, as snapper Harry and I were setting up to take some pictures, we heard a parp from the undergrowth, as it were, and the next minute this Series III bustled into view. I mean, what are the chances? None of us, including Max, its owner, could quite believe it when we ended up staring at each other with our (almost) bookmark Land Rovers. It seemed like an opportunity too good to miss to photograph them together, so we did.

Max told us he works not far from where we were and likes to pop out in his lunchbreak for a trundle around the byways. He seemed a little embarrassed at the state of his Landie, but to me, it looked perfectly patinaed. Okay, I might not be the world’s biggest fan of classic Land Rovers as family cars, but as a fun classic I get them totally. Max’s looked spot on to me – presented just how it should be. A Land Rover Defender should never be pristine for long because it’s a working vehicle at heart. And I fully intend to make ours work...   


Car: Land Rover Defender 110 D300 X-Dynamic HSE
Price as tested: £82,255 
Options fitted: Air suspension Pack (£1,615), Advanced Off-Road Capability Pack (£1,070), Cold Climate Pack (£260), Electronic Active Differential with Torque Vectoring (£1,020), Three-zone Climate Control (£355), Air Quality Sensor (£60), Cabin Air Purification Plus (£285), Wi-Fi Enabled with Data Plan (£460), Secure Tracker Pro (36-month subscription) (£520).
Run by: John H
On fleet since: April 2023
Mileage: 3,097

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2 GKC

Original Poster:

2,307 posts

134 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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£82k. Can’t see the appeal at that price. Very spec sensitive

Mysstree

547 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Just about every farmer pleads poverty and that they never make any money so not sure how they can afford to buy an eighty grand car.

Baddie

803 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Whatever the spec, might see the appeal if it could keep doing its job with minimal fuss for 10+ years. Modern Land Rovers are very capable vehicles, and some owners seem to have trouble-free experiences, but think they’re still well short of providing, say, 95% of owners with a car that won’t have major borkage at some point in the long term.

Farmers spend huge amounts of capital on their kit, then expect it to earn its keep over many years. Even at £80k a Defender is a drop in that well, but would one consistently repay the investment?

Is that why they dropped the chocolate Ingenium 4 pot?



Edited by Baddie on Sunday 21st May 08:49

markj113

176 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Purchased a 2022 Defender D250 110 XS a few weeks ago, so far loving it.

My first Land Rover so hoping some the brand reliabilty issues have been ironed out in recent years or it doesnt end up going missing and on a one way trip to the middle east without my consent lol.


Edited by markj113 on Sunday 21st May 10:36

ballans

937 posts

134 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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That series 3 looks good. I’ve got one of those but currently in (rusty) bits.
I’m a fan of the new Defender. They look great and very useable. They are massive though.
A couple of friends have them and no reliability issues which is nice to hear. Dealers still awful which isn’t so great.

Mikebentley

8,608 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Love ours, nearly 12 months in now and absolutely fantastic. D250 Dynamic S with £6k options. Mine was the last 110 built as standard with air suspension. Folding fabric roof is brilliant. Chose ours as an S to get the smaller wheels and bigger tyre walls.

I know a local beef farmer who had a 110 HSE they used on the farm towing livestock trailers with. They loved it and used it well and just upgraded to a 130 HSE so it must have been successful for their needs. I did 300 miles in mine yesterday and lost count of how many I saw towing horse boxes, plant trailers and large boats.


Don’t forget lots of purchases are tax write offs so an £80 k car that can be used for the family too is small fry when you consider the costs of tractors and other farming equipment.
Gratuitous picture. Now has gloss black steps and OEM country flaps…oo er.

Mikebentley

8,608 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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ballans said:
That series 3 looks good. I’ve got one of those but currently in (rusty) bits.
I’m a fan of the new Defender. They look great and very useable. They are massive though.
A couple of friends have them and no reliability issues which is nice to hear. Dealers still awful which isn’t so great.
They really aren’t any bigger than the VW T vans though. Nobody bats an eyelid at them as they are seen as “lifestyle” or “scene”. If they are too big for anyone I would recommend not buying one. The 130 could cause some issues with day to day practicality as it’s clearly too long for a parking space…this is our 110


That’s not me in the vest top. We have a large community of gangster rappers in Malvern.

A.J.M

8,384 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Before a million people tell you that no farmer ever uses one.

A local farmer to me has a 110 commercial, blue with black roof and a tow bar, rear recovery points and a livestock trailer always seems to be attached to it.

Plus there’s quite a lot of them in the Lake District on various farms when we go down for a couple of days off roading.

Personally I would have gone for an HSE with dark interior but otherwise a decent spec.

themule

174 posts

104 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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John - what would be extremely useful and what never seems to be discussed in the these 'long term fleet' articles is how much they would cost to own over, say 3 years. Document the cost of a couple of common financing options, research how much income you would need to realistically fund that. What are the waiting times, if any, for a new vehicle?

ballans

937 posts

134 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Mikebentley said:
ballans said:
That series 3 looks good. I’ve got one of those but currently in (rusty) bits.
I’m a fan of the new Defender. They look great and very useable. They are massive though.
A couple of friends have them and no reliability issues which is nice to hear. Dealers still awful which isn’t so great.
They really aren’t any bigger than the VW T vans though. Nobody bats an eyelid at them as they are seen as “lifestyle” or “scene”. If they are too big for anyone I would recommend not buying one. The 130 could cause some issues with day to day practicality as it’s clearly too long for a parking space…this is our 110


That’s not me in the vest top. We have a large community of gangster rappers in Malvern.
Haha, the Malvern gangster crews must be related to the hardcore equestrian rapper crews we have here in Somerset.

Agreed they are a similar size to a T5/6 but to me the slab sidedness makes them look huge.

pb8g09

3,222 posts

98 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Sorry totally disagree. I live in Bournemouth/Poole so see plenty of the lifestyle VW vans and also plenty of these running as a second car to the Astons with 007 reference license plates in Sandbanks.

They really are much bigger. Driving behind a VW van you can at least see either side of it when you’re crawling along the A27 at 57mph. You can’t see past these Defenders from behind, all you can see is the pristine clean mud flaps.

Turini

474 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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More or less what we’ve ordered to replace a Mercedes GLS. Smaller footprint and the long term test we had showed it to be a much better vehicle and more suited to our intended use.



Edited by Turini on Sunday 21st May 13:59

Mysstree

547 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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What’s the attraction with the drug dealer all black look? Would the tyres be shiney gloss black if that was available?

markj113

176 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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pb8g09 said:
Sorry totally disagree. I live in Bournemouth/Poole so see plenty of the lifestyle VW vans and also plenty of these running as a second car to the Astons with 007 reference license plates in Sandbanks.

They really are much bigger. Driving behind a VW van you can at least see either side of it when you’re crawling along the A27 at 57mph. You can’t see past these Defenders from behind, all you can see is the pristine clean mud flaps.
What's the obsession with having a 4X4 means you must off-road or Safari in it?

Does every sports car or supercar owner have to do track days and nurburgring laps on a regular basis or EV drivers must only consume a plant or insect based diet to save the planet?

Turini

474 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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markj113 said:
What's the obsession with having a 4X4 means you must off-road or Safari in it?

Does every sports car or supercar owner have to do track days and nurburgring laps on a regular basis or EV drivers must only consume a plant or insect based diet to save the planet?
Exactly, I don’t criticise a sports car owner for not taking their car on track days every weekend. 90% of our driving doesn’t involve going off-road but there are times when we do and when we have to tow a boat or use the rear space to carry bikes or take things to the tip or for that matter use the 7 seats.

Mikebentley

8,608 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Mysstree said:
What’s the attraction with the drug dealer all black look? Would the tyres be shiney gloss black if that was available?
It’s a choice. You know that thing that those paying their own money are able to make. My wife wanted it to look that way as that’s what she wanted……happy wife happy life and all that. You will be pleased to know I went full black inside too including headlining to make cleaning it easy. It’s currently absolutely filthy inside but will clean up in about twenty minutes due to the surfaces and materials used.

I do though think these look fantastic in any spec and any of the colours available. Think they should have done a dark metallic Aintree Green. As for the tyres you must have heard of tyre shine?

Pflanzgarten

7,571 posts

54 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Got one on order, just wish they made the 130 in the hard top commercial variant.

Mikebentley

8,608 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Pflanzgarten said:
Got one on order, just wish they made the 130 in the hard top commercial variant.
You will love it. I came from an L494 Range Rover Sport. The Defender is 90% of the RRS’s on road feel but brimming with character. Mine is a bit like a WAG special to look at but is just as capable as a steel wheeled commercial variant. It’s our family car and not a workhorse as such. It’s like a big Tonka toy and I have zero regrets.

BikeSausage

730 posts

97 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Very unusual not to see one in the black on black on black on black spec with the outside window case thingy fitted whilst toddling off to Waitrose.

Let’s face it, these are fashion accessories first, 4x4 second, even compared to many other image-conscious SUVs. For 90% + of buyers, the off-Road capability is incidental.

NomduJour

20,627 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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pb8g09 said:
They really are much bigger. Driving behind a VW van you can at least see either side of it when you’re crawling along the A27 at 57mph. You can’t see past these Defenders from behind, all you can see is the pristine clean mud flaps.
Defender 110 - 4758mm L, 2105mm W, 1967mm H
T61 Caravelle - 4904mm L, 2297mm W, 1990mm H