Would you accept a repair to a drive shaft after it snapped?
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Garage said they couldn't source a new part, or one from a breakers yard, so are getting 'someone' to fix the one that snapped (Honda Jazz, no uncommon for them to break apparently).
Is that alarm bells ringing? I've managed to source a new one that should fit (according to Honda parts catalogue all Jazz 09-15 use the same drive shaft, garage say they don't) and want to be clear on the situation before I take it into them.
Half-guessing that they'll claim the new one didn't fit even if it did, as they've already sent the part off to be fixed without getting me a quote first, so the guy will be charging them anyway.
Is that alarm bells ringing? I've managed to source a new one that should fit (according to Honda parts catalogue all Jazz 09-15 use the same drive shaft, garage say they don't) and want to be clear on the situation before I take it into them.
Half-guessing that they'll claim the new one didn't fit even if it did, as they've already sent the part off to be fixed without getting me a quote first, so the guy will be charging them anyway.
This is the break, I’m not convinced on a repair….
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It's pretty normal for cutsom / competition cars to get new driveshafts or propshafts made or modified to be longer or shorter. I've got a modified propshaft in mine. As long as it's a reputable specialist company doing it, I'd have no worries. If it's his mate round the back with an arc welder, maybe not so good.
If they are proposing to weld up the shaft itself, I'd be dubious. I'm sure it would be possible to make it strong enough, the issue would be balancing the shaft accurately; if it's slightly out of balance it will either fail again, or the vibration could damage other suspension/gearbox components. A good machine shop can certainly do it, but a typical back-stream garage probably can't so it would depend on exactly what they're proposing.
ScotHill said:
This is the break, I’m not convinced on a repair….
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
But as I said below, a repair could be replacing the ‘shaft’ that is broken, not replacing the whole assembly,. I would certainly not accept a weld-job.https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
What did they tell you when you asked how the repair would be carried out?
Long time ago, but when I worked in a motor factors - predominantly supplying to the trade - we sold amongst other things drive shafts.
These had a surcharge against the old unit being returned to us & the old units would be sent to a reconditioning company that would rebuild using new components as required.
Long time ago, but when I worked in a motor factors - predominantly supplying to the trade - we sold amongst other things drive shafts.
These had a surcharge against the old unit being returned to us & the old units would be sent to a reconditioning company that would rebuild using new components as required.
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with a welded driveshaft, if it's done properly, it's the question of whether it is done properly, as said above. A decent job, and well balanced, it would be fine.
If you really can't buy a new or used one, and don't want a repair, specialists can make you one from scratch, but it'll mean waiting about a month and putting your hand deeper in your pocket.
If you really can't buy a new or used one, and don't want a repair, specialists can make you one from scratch, but it'll mean waiting about a month and putting your hand deeper in your pocket.
paintman said:
What did they tell you when you asked how the repair would be carried out?
They couldn't find a new one (specifically that the Euro Parts one was showing in stock but when they phoned they were told there was no stock in the warehouse; that part has seemingly been delivered this morning based on me ordering it myself online), they would try to find one from a breakers yard, and failing that they would get the broken one repaired. I've not agreed to a repair and they've not given me a cost before sending it off to their guy. No indication of what the repair would consist of; if they want to go ahead with that I'll ask to inspect the part before they fit it.New part was £200, so unless there's a big saving with the repaired one I'd rather go new.
Wouldn't bother me if it worked, as has been mentioned, its not uncommon to shorten or lengthen existing driveshafts and propshafts on some pretty powerful cars.
Thats if its done properly, not someone with a mig welder having a go to get it out of the door. Would have thought it may be a similar kind of price to get it professionally welded than getting a new one ?
I saw it explained years ago in Street Machine, from what I remember the shaft was cut to shorten it, the ends filed to a point, held in a jig to keep them straight and then welded, thing that was for a Jag IRS that had been narrowed to fit under a Ford Pop but might be remembering that incorrectly
Thats if its done properly, not someone with a mig welder having a go to get it out of the door. Would have thought it may be a similar kind of price to get it professionally welded than getting a new one ?
I saw it explained years ago in Street Machine, from what I remember the shaft was cut to shorten it, the ends filed to a point, held in a jig to keep them straight and then welded, thing that was for a Jag IRS that had been narrowed to fit under a Ford Pop but might be remembering that incorrectly
BricktopST205 said:
I would be more concerned that a garage couldn't source a driveshaft for a common as muck Honda Jazz.
I recently replaced one in my Saab brand new and Saab haven't made cars for over a decade!
It can be odd what stuff becomes NLA.I recently replaced one in my Saab brand new and Saab haven't made cars for over a decade!
Had this exact same issue with a friend's Suzuki Wagon R, and they built five million of the damn things!
They couldnt source a genuine replacement part form Honda?
https://www.parts-honda.uk/honda-cars/JAZZ
https://www.parts-honda.uk/honda-cars/JAZZ
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