RE: Aston announces B&W as official audio partner
RE: Aston announces B&W as official audio partner
Tuesday 30th May 2023

Aston announces B&W as official audio partner

'Sensorially supercharged' Bowers & Wilkins' system promises high performance, ultra luxury audio in DB12


We all know that car audio is more important than ever. Customers don’t so much demand as expect the pinnacle in connectivity, sound quality, and style from their in-car systems. It’s reflected in just how much effort is invested by manufacturers to achieve the very best; nowhere is that better demonstrated than with the new DB12, which will be the first Aston Martin to feature Bowers & Wilkins' newly developed Surround Sound System as an option.

The headlines are dominated by the numbers, of course, with 1,170W of power, 15 speakers, a 14-channel amp and five B&W Nautilus Aluminium Double Dome Tweeters. But there’s far more to this latest collaboration than just being able to blast out inappropriately loud ABBA via the smart new interior controls. The very fact the tie-up exists is notable for starters, Aston and Bowers & Wilkins today confirming their status as official partners ‘striving for heightened levels of performance’. Furthermore, while we’re used to car engineers working with their equivalents in suspension and tyre companies, there’s now cooperation with sound engineers as well. For the DB12, that meant ensuring the location, direction and symmetry of the speaker position was spot on to get the right immersive quality for the system.

Like a new car, a new audio installation features the latest in technology as well. There are five B&W Continuum mid-range speakers in the DB12, said to represent eight years (!) of development to deliver ‘a great step forward in midrange speaker performance’ thanks to a carefully damped woven composite construction. The aforementioned tweeters should reduce resonance, and their location separate from the rest of the cabinet reduces what’s called coloration and minimise acoustic reflection. We’re hoping this makes more sense to proper audiophiles. But even to us laypeople, the promise of a sound that is ‘more detailed, clear and natural’ is very promising. There aren’t many great journeys that aren’t improved by a great audio experience.

Dan Shepherd, Vice President of Licensing and Partnerships at Bowers & Wilkins, said: “The alignment of Bowers and Wilkins with Aston Martin is an entirely natural one, with both celebrating their British heritage while being renowned for innovation and creating thrilling experiences. As well as car-audio integration, this exciting new partnership will also lead to elevated brand co-operations in the future. We proudly look forward to the next chapter.” And with Aston already confirming that there will be B&W systems available in upcoming cars, this really is just the start.


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varsas

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4,076 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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It's certainly a box I would be ticking, in all but two cars I've owned (Mk4 Mondeo and 330ci with H/K, and I am only saying they are 'OK') the audio has been so bad it's detracted from enjoying the music, it'd be great to have a car which actually sounded good and I'd be disapointed if my Aston Martin didn't.

Ray_Aber

948 posts

306 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Good news. B&W make magnificent audio speakers.

In a perfect world, I'd have Naim (Bentley's choice) for the head unit and amplification, allied to B&W speakers.

I'm not a fan of BOSE (Buy Other stereo Equipment), and B&O is more furniture than hifi; B&W hit the mark for me.

GTRene

22,599 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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What a lovely color of that leather also combined with the carbon and nicely integrated speakers, great picture.


Wab1974uk

1,412 posts

57 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Ray_Aber said:
Good news. B&W make magnificent audio speakers.

In a perfect world, I'd have Naim (Bentley's choice) for the head unit and amplification, allied to B&W speakers.

I'm not a fan of BOSE (Buy Other stereo Equipment), and B&O is more furniture than hifi; B&W hit the mark for me.
I've never rated BOSE either. Always feels a bit m'eh to me.

I'll disagree on B&O though. Had this on my 2015 Audi S3 Saloon, and for the price, it's been one of the best, if not they best sound systems I've had in any car.

Recently (last week) took delivery) of a car fitted with Burmester. Not really had chance to play around with it yet, but first impressions are good. Should be for the price !

LC23

1,315 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Got the B&W system in my XFR. Its superb, so good news for Aston.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.

Deranged Rover

4,682 posts

104 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Ray_Aber said:
Good news. B&W make magnificent audio speakers.
Sadly, the two things don’t necessarily correlate. Meridian also make magnificent hi-fi speakers (some of the best there are, in my opinion) but every car system I’ve heard with the ‘Meridian’ badge on has been truly dreadful.

That said, the B&W car systems I’ve heard have been very good, so I have high hopes for this one.

Panamax

9,874 posts

64 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Car audio is always built down to a price. Don't be fooled by some of the fancy brand names.

Unfortunately it's all so "integrated" these days you have little choice other than to pick from the OE offerings. I typically head for the middle ground, base equipment typically being hopeless and the flashy stuff grossly overpriced.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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pocketspring said:
My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.
I'd love to see audio manufacturers like ATC (in particular - Billy Woodman was an audiophile God), PMC or Quested step into the car audio game - these guys are all very highly respected (arguably even more so than B&W) in the professional audio world but more importantly they design and build their own loudspeakers and amplifiers/electronics too. The fact they're all British is a bonus that would tie in nicely with Aston Martin.

That being said, the very fact they're British means the price point would be absolutely outrageous; certainly more than most would be prepared to pay!

MattsCar

2,465 posts

135 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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sidesauce said:
pocketspring said:
My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.
I'd love to see audio manufacturers like ATC (in particular - Billy Woodman was an audiophile God), PMC or Quested step into the car audio game - these guys are all very highly respected (arguably even more so than B&W) in the professional audio world but more importantly they design and build their own loudspeakers and amplifiers/electronics too. The fact they're all British is a bonus that would tie in nicely with Aston Martin.

That being said, the very fact they're British means the price point would be absolutely outrageous; certainly more than most would be prepared to pay!
Well, if you want British, you have Genesis.

I always thought the likes of Bentley/ Aston missed a trick by not offering Genesis products for their cars and integrating them in an OEM way.

Would annihilate any of these so called top end systems, which are basically branded cheap speakers and low power amplifiers with far too many channels.

https://thegenesisstoreuk.com/

Magikarp

1,755 posts

78 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Bowers & Wilkins are too proletariat, too modern, too trendy for the truly discerning gent. Quad ESL63s would be the perfect audio compromise.

carl_w

10,769 posts

288 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Aston Martin audio used to be Linn didn't it?

Nish Gnackers

1,173 posts

71 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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pocketspring said:
My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.
So more B&Q than B&W ... wink

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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MattsCar said:
sidesauce said:
pocketspring said:
My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.
I'd love to see audio manufacturers like ATC (in particular - Billy Woodman was an audiophile God), PMC or Quested step into the car audio game - these guys are all very highly respected (arguably even more so than B&W) in the professional audio world but more importantly they design and build their own loudspeakers and amplifiers/electronics too. The fact they're all British is a bonus that would tie in nicely with Aston Martin.

That being said, the very fact they're British means the price point would be absolutely outrageous; certainly more than most would be prepared to pay!
Well, if you want British, you have Genesis.

I always thought the likes of Bentley/ Aston missed a trick by not offering Genesis products for their cars and integrating them in an OEM way.

Would annihilate any of these so called top end systems, which are basically branded cheap speakers and low power amplifiers with far too many channels.

https://thegenesisstoreuk.com/
Do they make their own speakers though?

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Magikarp said:
Bowers & Wilkins are too proletariat, too modern, too trendy for the truly discerning gent. Quad ESL63s would be the perfect audio compromise.
Only problem is, ESL63s aren't good for bass end... Regardless of what application they'd be used in wink

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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carl_w said:
Aston Martin audio used to be Linn didn't it?
Yes, during the era of Ford's ownership.

GeniusOfLove

5,781 posts

42 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Deranged Rover said:
Sadly, the two things don’t necessarily correlate. Meridian also make magnificent hi-fi speakers (some of the best there are, in my opinion) but every car system I’ve heard with the ‘Meridian’ badge on has been truly dreadful.

That said, the B&W car systems I’ve heard have been very good, so I have high hopes for this one.
Oddly the B&W branded systems in early X351 Jaguar XJs are very good, and the Merdian branded systems the replaced them with are absolutely awful, even the multi thousand pound 1300W odd optional system is unpleasantly shrill at anything more than medium volume. Same goes for the RR Meridian systems, they're downright painful.

Cold

16,727 posts

120 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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sidesauce said:
pocketspring said:
My mate designs the boards for B and W. Unless they're spending a fortune on them, the speakers will still be Chinese made.
I'd love to see audio manufacturers like ATC (in particular - Billy Woodman was an audiophile God), PMC or Quested step into the car audio game - these guys are all very highly respected (arguably even more so than B&W) in the professional audio world but more importantly they design and build their own loudspeakers and amplifiers/electronics too. The fact they're all British is a bonus that would tie in nicely with Aston Martin.

That being said, the very fact they're British means the price point would be absolutely outrageous; certainly more than most would be prepared to pay!
At least being Chinese made it has a much better chance of being reliable.

nismo48

7,136 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Good news for all the talented people who work at B&W too thumbup

smilo996

3,856 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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A really innovative company. John Bowers and Roy Wilkins met during WW2 in the Royal Signal Corps. started as a shop, then patents, licensing to Sony and so much more.

The alignment of Bowers and Wilkins with Aston Martin is an entirely natural one, with both celebrating their British heritage while being renowned for innovation and creating thrilling experiences
Seems to be pushing a point from Aston's side. the thrills come from AMG, it is not British and the real design innovation mostly care of Zagato & recently A. Newey.