RE: Coryton launches first classic car biofuel
RE: Coryton launches first classic car biofuel
Tuesday 13th June 2023

Coryton launches first classic car biofuel

Three levels of plant-based petrol available now, priced from £3.80 a litre


The name Coryton will hopefully be familiar from its exploits with Mazda few months back, setting lap records across the UK in an MX-5 using nothing but fossil-free fuel. Now there’s something properly tangible to show for its work in renewable fuels, with the first publicly available sustainable petrol for classic cars launched today. Called Sustain Classic, it’s available in three types, the most environmentally friendly of which promises ‘a reduction of at least 65 per cent in greenhouse gas emissions when compared to fossil fuels’. Which is pretty significant. Initially, it’ll be available at Bicester Heritage, with more locations to follow.

Coryton’s Sustain Classic will be available as Super 80, Super 33 and Racing 50. It’s the 33 that’s probably of the most interest as the most affordable, priced from £3.80 a litre. The 33 denotes the minimum amount of sustainable content, which contributes to a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions of at least 25 per cent against fossil fuels. It’s rated at 98 octane and also comes with something called a ‘multifunctional deposit control additive package’, which cuts down on deposits in the engine to keep it clean. Super 80 has at least 80 per cent renewable content meaning the greenhouse gas reduction is said to be more than 65 per cent. It’s also 98 octane, and costs from £4.65 a litre.

Coryton even has a race-spec of biofuel, rated at 102 octane. Racing 50 has at least 50 per cent renewable content and a saving of more than 35 per cent in greenhouse gases. It costs £5.24 a litre (nobody ever said motorsport was going to get any cheaper in the future, sadly). Nevertheless, Sustain Classic is already in use, powering more than 70 cars at Bicester’s recent Rally for the Ages event. It’s going to be available at the upcoming Flywheel 2023 event, too.

With around half a million classics believed to be in the UK, Coryton’s launch of Sustain Classic feels like a small but significant step in the right direction. Clearly, there’s not going to be queue of thousands at Motor Spirit (where the petrol will be available), but it’s a start. As David Richardson, Coryton’s Business Development Director, noted: “Every kilogram of CO2 we avoid adding to our atmosphere, by replacing fossil fuel with sustainable fuel, is a win. We don’t instantly have to go for the full switch to start making a genuine impact.” That’s the key, surely; fuel from agricultural waste is not a panacea for the situation we’re in, although it does mean that cool old classics can hopefully be kept on the road while using less carbon. That’s got to be a good thing. Do let us know how you get on filling up…


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Turini

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477 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Expensive but sustainable (to a point) way of running an older car - better than allowing corrosive ethanol content fuel sit in tanks and create issues for seals and filters.

ex-devonpaul

1,743 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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When this was mentioned a year or 2 back it was nearly a tenner a litre, which seemed a lot.

But at less than half that, when normal fuel has recently been nudging £2, it doesnt seem too bad at all. It doesn't mention ethanol conent but one would hope that given the target market it would also be ethanol free. Certainly might be worth a tankful before parking up for the winter.

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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You'd like to think that economies of scale would mean a reduction in cost if more was produced. However i'm sure that wont be the case if anything they will start to tax it more.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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If that can continue to come down in price to under £2/L that'd be splendid! Promising.....

Turini

Original Poster:

477 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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ex-devonpaul said:
When this was mentioned a year or 2 back it was nearly a tenner a litre, which seemed a lot.

But at less than half that, when normal fuel has recently been nudging £2, it doesnt seem too bad at all. It doesn't mention ethanol conent but one would hope that given the target market it would also be ethanol free. Certainly might be worth a tankful before parking up for the winter.
Thats our concern when leaving a car for a period of time - something that won't deteriorate or cause issues to the vehicles' fuel system

Terminator X

20,684 posts

234 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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ex-devonpaul said:
When this was mentioned a year or 2 back it was nearly a tenner a litre, which seemed a lot.

But at less than half that, when normal fuel has recently been nudging £2, it doesnt seem too bad at all. It doesn't mention ethanol conent but one would hope that given the target market it would also be ethanol free. Certainly might be worth a tankful before parking up for the winter.
We are regularly told on here that synth fuel will be ruinously expensive and never get cheaper. Who'd have thunk it.

TX.

LotusOmega375D

9,364 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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So the “cheaper” grade only reduces emissions by 25% or so. Is that really worth it? They should just have stuck to the Super 80

bumskins

2,268 posts

45 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Doesn't even seem that stupidly priced IMO, previously had to pay £90/19 litres of leaded 102-octane race fuel for my classic, so by that measure the renewable stuff isn't that much of a stretch - interesting... scratchchin

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Turini said:
ex-devonpaul said:
When this was mentioned a year or 2 back it was nearly a tenner a litre, which seemed a lot.

But at less than half that, when normal fuel has recently been nudging £2, it doesnt seem too bad at all. It doesn't mention ethanol conent but one would hope that given the target market it would also be ethanol free. Certainly might be worth a tankful before parking up for the winter.
Thats our concern when leaving a car for a period of time - something that won't deteriorate or cause issues to the vehicles' fuel system
I've had no problems whatsoever leaving my Riley with varying amounts of E5 in its tank from October to April during recent winters; I don't know of anyone who has.

varsas

4,075 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Seems pretty good value, I assumed biofules would be more to be honest. I've never done more than 2,000ish miles a year in my classic so this would only cost me, what, less than £1,000/year which in the grand scheme of things, and if the alternative was to never be able to drive it again, would be welcomed.

Piston Ted

299 posts

90 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Terminator X said:
We are regularly told on here that synth fuel will be ruinously expensive and never get cheaper. Who'd have thunk it.

TX.
Oh don’t worry TX the usual EV only/anti E fuel brigade will be along shortly to educate us all in their condescending manner.

soad

34,666 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Personally I think this is mega expensive.

A chap parked next to me (in a Morrisons petrol station) this morning. In his classic Capri, and spent some time examining the pump options before moving on…

TGCOTF-dewey

7,887 posts

85 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Riley Blue said:
Turini said:
ex-devonpaul said:
When this was mentioned a year or 2 back it was nearly a tenner a litre, which seemed a lot.

But at less than half that, when normal fuel has recently been nudging £2, it doesnt seem too bad at all. It doesn't mention ethanol conent but one would hope that given the target market it would also be ethanol free. Certainly might be worth a tankful before parking up for the winter.
Thats our concern when leaving a car for a period of time - something that won't deteriorate or cause issues to the vehicles' fuel system
I've had no problems whatsoever leaving my Riley with varying amounts of E5 in its tank from October to April during recent winters; I don't know of anyone who has.
I've just had a new tank on my Evo due likely to Ethanol corrosion (it's hydrophilic)

JJT

6 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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So they've made biofuels cheap by watering them down with fossil fuels.
Back calculating it, 100% bio will be about £8ish a litre
Its a start at least, you'll never see it at a garage though.

pacdes

780 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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JJT said:
So they've made biofuels cheap by watering them down with fossil fuels.
Back calculating it, 100% bio will be about £8ish a litre
Its a start at least, you'll never see it at a garage though.
Depends how old you are.

Charlie_1

1,067 posts

122 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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soad said:
Personally I think this is mega expensive.

A chap parked next to me (in a Morrisons petrol station) this morning. In his classic Capri, and spent some time examining the pump options before moving on…
Well if it means I dont have to drive around in an electric box it would be cheap at twice the price

Loplop

2,012 posts

215 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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A step in the right direction.

Let's say at current local prices for 99 octane I'm paying £1.58 a litre (V Power) and I've got a 50 litre tank, that's just under £80.

The Super 33 stuff would be £190.

However, not that I wish it to be any more expensive than it currently is, I'd say fuel at the pumps is relatively affordable, on a 50 litre tank you 'only' need to average 36-ish MPG to get a 400 mile range.

Price up how much it would cost you to do a similar journey by other means...

For example if I wanted to get on public transport right now and do a round trip to London and back (A journey of just over 400 miles) I'd be paying over £240 to the train company, that's not including taxi to and from my house to the station, so let's call it £260 all in.

Even at £3.80 a litre, it's cheap transport.

Olibol

162 posts

115 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Terminator X said:
We are regularly told on here that synth fuel will be ruinously expensive and never get cheaper. Who'd have thunk it.

TX.
Just to be clear, this isn’t synthetic. It’s bio. It is expensive, and it isn’t going to get much cheaper. It’ll be fine for classic car owners with deep pockets and determination to source and store it, but it’s not going to be the answer for keeping regular ICE cars on the road in 2040, when it’ll cost a 10th the price to run an old EV.

If

D4rez

1,668 posts

86 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Just to be really clear;

- wholesale petrol costs just over £1 per litre vs £5 for this
- Taxes and duty will out this to about £6 probably
- there still isn’t enough electricity for this be mass market and still no roadmap to enough carbon capture so this won’t scale
- the average pleb on £35-100k with a fast BMW is not going to pay £300 for a fill when the country was up in arms over £2 a litre
- the price will increase as other industries are forced to compete for supply (aviation, shipping all have CO2 targets)

Next?

Cockaigne

2,797 posts

49 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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injecting hydrogen would be better option.