RE: Buy your own carbon monocoque for £30k
RE: Buy your own carbon monocoque for £30k
Friday 23rd June 2023

Buy your own carbon monocoque for £30k

F1 supplier Dash-CAE launches TR01 carbon chassis for BEV and ICE power - the possibilities are endless


We’ve all dreamed of making our own supercar at some point, right? No compromise, no limits, nothing to consider but your dream of driving nirvana. Of course, there have been plenty of sports car kits for handy mechanics to assemble at home over the years, but those after something properly bespoke will need to start with the foundations of a car. They’ll need a chassis from which body panels can be draped and a powertrain wedged into; a carbon one, ideally, for maximum strength and minimum weight. Well, that’s now something on offer from Oxfordshire company Dash-CAE, which will sell you its TR01 carbon chassis for £30,000.

Now, obviously, it’ll take a bit more than a socket set and a crate V8 to make a supercar from that, but the very fact the TR01 exists is notable. Dash-CAE reckons this is about 50 per cent less than any comparable architecture currently available. It’s a proper bit of carbon kit, too, offering stiffness of 35,000Nm/deg and weighing just 50kg. It meets Euro NCAP/FMVSS crash standards, and the centre console design can be tweaked to the customer’s request. Dash says the TR01 ‘is suitable for any two-seat vehicle requiring a lightweight and stuff carbon monocoque’. The possibilities are endless…

Particularly as the monocoque can accommodate all manner of power sources. Dash reckons the TR01 is sufficiently versatile to be compatible with a ‘wide variety of two-seater ICE, BEV, and hybrid powertrains’. Ultimately it means that low-volume manufacturers and even startups can get hold of the chassis technology pretty much mandatory for a supercar these days, regardless of their engine choice. It’s also not beyond the realms of possibility that motorsport teams might be interested in the TR01, as it offers the chance to build a carbon-tubbed race car for much less than used to be possible.

Tim Robathan, CEO at Dash, said: “The TR01 chassis opens new possibilities for niche automotive manufacturers, and larger international OEMs by offering an affordable, versatile, lightweight, and high-stiffness carbon monocoque chassis. These programmes are often incredibly expensive and the ability to use a production carbon monocoque is a huge time and cost saving, without compromising performance. Our commitment to innovation and engineering excellence makes the TR01 an industry-disrupting solution that challenges traditional carbon chassis production and makes high-performance monocoques far more accessible.” And who doesn’t want to see more low-volume, carbon-tubbed exotics out there? We look forward to seeing what’s built from the TR01 first…


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dunnoreally

Original Poster:

1,356 posts

138 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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So what are we thinking: Pinto or Rover v8 laugh

stub101

594 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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I'd love to go 1930's coachbuilder style and craft something like the one-off 1930 Aston Martin Headlam Coupe over this with a nice V8 crate motor inside. Or more budget friendly BMW V8 from e39M5

Yes I know the tub wouldn't actually work for this but I can dream...


rb26

808 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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The idea of building your own track car, with a off the shelf carbon tub, is something that has really interested me. Amazing to see that this sort of thing is becoming viable, as long as you have the means to fund a project.

I'm imagining a modern interpretation of a Matra 670 with a v12 from any of the big boys, or even a judd v8 or v10. Just awesome

romac

608 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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I'm thinking 4 in-wheel motors and a decent battery-pack...

redroadster

1,886 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Not often I say this but that sounds value for money in these crazy car prices times ,or buy a used alfa 4c n cabbage that up ?

Equus

16,980 posts

131 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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stub101 said:
I'd love to go 1930's coachbuilder style and craft something like the one-off 1930 Aston Martin Headlam Coupe over this with a nice V8 crate motor inside. Or more budget friendly BMW V8 from e39M5

Yes I know the tub wouldn't actually work for this but I can dream...

You don't need anything more sophisticated than a few lengths of RHS steel for a chassis for a semi-authentic replica of that. A couple of hundred quid and a few hours with a MIG welder would see you right (original chassis were mostly bolted together, because they didn't even have electric welding).

stub101

594 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Equus said:
You don't need anything more sophisticated than a few lengths of RHS steel for a chassis for a semi-authentic replica of that. A couple of hundred quid and a few hours with a MIG welder would see you right (original chassis were mostly bolted together, because they didn't even have electric welding).
What deposit do you need Equus and how long until I can collect... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Black S2K

1,907 posts

279 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Nice looking car.

But it gets a bit expensive by the time you add a few options; the standard spec is a bit sparse.

Equus

16,980 posts

131 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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stub101 said:
What deposit do you need Equus and how long until I can collect... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
That cost is for you to do it yourself in a shed.

It also doesn't include all the bits you need to bolt to it to turn it into a rolling chassis: it would be just the bare chassis, same as the bare chassis in the article.

For what it's worth, I designed this (which is quite a complex and sophisticated chassis by spaceframe standards - certainly an order of magnitude more complex than a 1930's ladder frame) and we had it fabricated by a professional race fabricator for, if memory serves, about £3.5K (though that was pre-Brexit/Covid/Ukraine inflation):



Obviously, a carbon tub is an entirely different kettle of badgers.

BrettMRC

6,012 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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20B-PP rotary required.

stavr0ss

269 posts

158 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Hopefully somebody goes for the scotch yoke flat 8 from ASF
Not mind bending in terms of power, but light, smooth, and ought to be good for high revving. If you can keep the whole car under 750kg then you’d be in for a good 450hp/ton at the crank?

https://www.asfgroupltd.com/wp-content/uploads/202...

RyanMuller

2 posts

40 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Our Carbon monocoque will be exhibited at Goodwood festival of speed if anyone would like to take a look! Stand 66.

Kind regards,
Ryan
Dash CAE

Edited by RyanMuller on Friday 23 June 13:36

Jim Spencer

187 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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rb26 said:
The idea of building your own track car, with a off the shelf carbon tub, is something that has really interested me. Amazing to see that this sort of thing is becoming viable, as long as you have the means to fund a project.
Hi, not as much as you might think, the major cost would be the drivetrain, keep that simple and it's not overly expensive.. the hillclimb car in my profile picture was built, be me, in this way about a decade ago.

Bought a secondhand monocoque of one bloke (£650 IIRC), a set of 4 'corners' off another, new wishbones and then designed using proper CAW prototyping (Cardboard and Wood... sheets of card to get the layout then 1" sq timber and ply, before replicating it in steel and alloy..) the rear subframe that takes the engine (Kawasaki ZX10R) and diff, wings were assembled using 'by the meter' wing profile and carbon sheet endplates, doubt I was much into 5 figures when it first hit the track.

I had a lot to learn when I started (still do..) as i'm not an engineer, but a few decades of messing about with RC cars gave me the fundamentals of how the theory worked and the bits of knowledge to fabricate the bits I needed to make I learnt as I went along.. took about 12 months all in, but majority was October to March one off season!

Do It - the feeling you'll get the first time it moves is epic..

You'll see quite a few similar projects (most built to a much better standard!) at most of the hillclimb and sprint events, they're a superb environment for the home builder to still have a go


cookie1600

2,727 posts

191 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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"Good afternoon is that Dash-CAE?"

"Yes, my name is Les Edgar".

Robertb

3,856 posts

268 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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dunnoreally said:
So what are we thinking: Pinto or Rover v8 laugh
I'm getting me a one of these!
https://juddpower.com/our-engines/judd-gv-4-2l-v10...



Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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BrettMRC said:
20B-PP rotary required.
Ooh yes, I'm thinking a bright orange and green colour-scheme for the bodywork, maybe a few Charge or Renown stickers

Arsecati

2,781 posts

147 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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RyanMuller said:
Our Carbon monocoque will be exhibited at Goodwood festival of speed if anyone would like to take a look! Stand 66.

Kind regards,
Ryan
Dash CAE

Edited by RyanMuller on Friday 23 June 13:36
As first posts go........ that's a pretty bloody good one!!!!!! (Just need to get myself to Goodwood now!).

Epic work sir - my mind is in overdrive thinking of the possibilities: I wish you absolutely all the luck in the world with it, just brilliant!

GTRene

22,514 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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stub101 said:
I'd love to go 1930's coachbuilder style and craft something like the one-off 1930 Aston Martin Headlam Coupe over this with a nice V8 crate motor inside. Or more budget friendly BMW V8 from e39M5

Yes I know the tub wouldn't actually work for this but I can dream...

you could make something like that on say a caterham chassi.

something like this, like a hotrod ish seven.


AMGSee55

687 posts

132 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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dunnoreally said:
So what are we thinking: Pinto or Rover v8 laugh
You get the engine and box, I’ll start on the body wink


romac

608 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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Black S2K said:
Nice looking car.

But it gets a bit expensive by the time you add a few options; the standard spec is a bit sparse.
rofl Can't let this go without a thumbup