Thursday 29th June 2023

Ineos Quartermaster pick-up to debut at Goodwood

New double cab truck due to be unveiled at Festival of Speed, alongside a hydrogen fuel cell concept

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As the de facto British motor show these days, the Goodwood Festival of Speed is never short of new car reveals. Here’s one more for the 2023 must-see list: the Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster. Also known as the double-cab pick-up one, set to make its global debut on Thursday July 13th. 

Ineos hasn’t released much more information for the moment, adding only that the Quartermaster will be part of the First Glance paddock and run up the hill on every day of the Festival. There’s not even much to tell from the teaser image, beyond the familiar Grenadier light signature and the name stamped large on the tailgate in case it wasn’t clear already what you were following. Expect the engine lineup of the Quartermaster to mirror that of the Station Wagon, with a BMW six-cylinder diesel and petrol option, plus the usual array of off-road options for those customers who really want to put the truck to work off the beaten track.

Ineos says that the reveal of the Quartermaster will be accompanied by a ‘very special appearance on the hillclimb’, featuring familiar Goodwood faces to celebrate both 75 years of motorsport there and the, um, Belstaff Trialmaster Jacket. Because Trialmaster is a Grenadier spec, of course. So keep a lookout for that.

Additionally, Ineos will show its hydrogen concept car at FoS. Another model being seen in public for the first time, the Grenadier Hydrogen Fuel Cell Technology Demonstrator aims to show ‘how well-suited the zero-emissions technology is for a future long-range 4x4 off-roader’. Which is certainly an interesting development for the Grenadier, given that just about every other electrified 4x4 and SUV out there is a battery-electric vehicle.

Might this also be using BMW technology? It was only in February that the iX5 Hydrogen pilot fleet was launched, so perhaps it’s a bit soon. But it demonstrates that Ineos has the future in mind; the very fact the Grenadier exists and is now with customers shows they’re not a company to be deterred by a challenge…

Finally, those who want to experience the Ineos for themselves might be interested in hundreds of drive slots across the four days in a combustion-engined car ‘to put the 4x4 through its paces’. To be held at the Goodwood Halnaker Chalkpit, visitors are told to expect a ‘challenging off-road course’. Do let us know how you get on!

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[FaustF]

That's a good model name.

Can't help but want one though I have zero use for it's actual abilities

[jeremy996]

God only knows what HMRC will make of it. All of the current station wagons are "cars" as far as HMRC is concerned, so VAT recovery and BIK are problematic.

As a pickup, presumably it has a lower payload than the lighter SWs? Unless Ineos bite the bullet and register them as goods vehicles with a Maximum Authorised Mass?

I'm enjoying my Grenadier 5 seater van - I don't need a pick-up.

[smilo996]

the former great British brexit automotive hope.

Would imagine it will be sold off within a few years, it has no future as it is. Ironically.

[Mammasaid]

jeremy996 said:

God only knows what HMRC will make of it. All of the current station wagons are "cars" as far as HMRC is concerned, so VAT recovery and BIK are problematic.

As a pickup, presumably it has a lower payload than the lighter SWs? Unless Ineos bite the bullet and register them as goods vehicles with a Maximum Authorised Mass?

I'm enjoying my Grenadier 5 seater van - I don't need a pick-up.

If it based on the same underpinnings as the station wagon, there's going to be no way it's going to have a payload of over 1045kg (the bare minimum for tax purposes), and an unladen weight of 2040kg, so van speed limits will apply.

It's a shame it's so heavy as it could have been a contender.

[jakeb]

Harry Metcalfe put a fieldmaster on a weighbridge and it was something like 2940kg with the driver.

[British Beef]

jakeb said:

Harry Metcalfe put a fieldmaster on a weighbridge and it was something like 2940kg with the driver.

Imagine when they make the electric version with an extra 1500kg of batteries, it will be classed as an HGV :-)

[bnseven]

Mammasaid said:

If it based on the same underpinnings as the station wagon, there's going to be no way it's going to have a payload of over 1045kg (the bare minimum for tax purposes), and an unladen weight of 2040kg, so van speed limits will apply.

It's a shame it's so heavy as it could have been a contender.

Other sources say its based on the "long wheelbase" variant that will also be used for the 7 seater stationwagon, both of which given the Harrys Farm weighbridge check of the current model put them very close to C1 licence territory. or no payload

[Neill-l9qpf]

I really wish they would look at the arbitrary rules around payload and business vehicles.

All that it's done is encourage thousands of self-employed people to buy pickup trucks for their tax benefits when they have zero need for payload or towing capability.

[Lotobear]

smilo996 said:

the former great British brexit automotive hope.

Would imagine it will be sold off within a few years, it has no future as it is. Ironically.

Perhaps you should have a quiet word with billionaire Jim, I am sure he would value your insight

[Howard1650]

Lotobear said:

smilo996 said:

the former great British brexit automotive hope.

Would imagine it will be sold off within a few years, it has no future as it is. Ironically.

Perhaps you should have a quiet word with billionaire Jim, I am sure he would value your insight

As you say just chump change for the billionaire Brexit flag waving Jim. This will never make it to market.

[nismo48]

British Beef said:

jakeb said:

Harry Metcalfe put a fieldmaster on a weighbridge and it was something like 2940kg with the driver.

Imagine when they make the electric version with an extra 1500kg of batteries, it will be classed as an HGV :-)

[stavr0ss]

Neill-l9qpf said:

I really wish they would look at the arbitrary rules around payload and business vehicles.

All that it's done is encourage thousands of self-employed people to buy pickup trucks for their tax benefits when they have zero need for payload or towing capability.

Oh is it tax rules that’s making them buy them?
I’d just assumed they were all aholes!

[Cups Renault]

Ah Jim, one of the gang of great brexit frauds.
Another crony who has been shown to be a liar.

As for his Frankenstein creations.....like the knock offs china used to do but here in the UK....ah sorry EU....ah the ugly irony.

Edited by Cups Renault on Thursday 29th June 20:46

[snotrag]

Not sure why they have bothered with the secrecy of the images.

It looks like this, we already know that!

[growlerowl]

I saw one of these on the road in Petworth the other day, and it actually looked pretty good.

[dunnoreally]

I'm really struggling to see the point. Ineos exists, as far as I can tell, to sell back-to-basics body-on-frame 4x4s in a world of monocoque crossovers, which is a fine niche. Never going to sell in volume, but I can understand why you would.

However, various manufacturers already do rugged body-on-frame pickups. They are all much cheaper than this is likely to be, and can also actually carry things. Will the styling really be enough to convince a significant number of people to overpay there for what's basically going to be a sh*t Hilux?

[wistec1]

The world to which this vehicle was conceived is overburdened with much better competition. If you really must have one then I would suggest you wait until the receivers are appointed at which point you may just bag yourself a bargain. You can then spend the savings on a shrink and a good eye test at spec savers. Nuff said.

[sege]

FaustF said:

That's a good model name.

Can't help but want one though I have zero use for it's actual abilities

I'm not a fan tbh, just doesn't seem inspiring enough. If they did an Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster Rorke's Drift special edition though, I'd be all over it.

[LasseV]

I have always liked Grenadier. I don't get the hate, it is always good to have an option. Because there is not that many rugged 4x4 in the market anymore. Used market is also quite tight already. Good 4x4 vehicles are either very old and abused or just very expensive. That is also a huge plus side that you can have service manual for free.

That fuel cell version doesn't use BMW tech but Hyundai's stack. No one knows does they use stack which is in use now or is it the next gen one. And if it is a new gen stack is it 100kw or 200kw version. Latter is aimed to commercial vehicles, but Grenadier is at least little bit of geared to commercial market. Anyway, time willl tell. Because of high taxes ICE versions are no go for me.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

I've seen quite a few of these on the road here in Germany. Having watched some reviews the problem for the right hand drive version appears to be that the gearbox housing encroaches into the driver's footwell meaning that there is no where to comfortably put your left foot. That would get very annoying very quickly.