Family spend on cars - advice?
Family spend on cars - advice?
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passport010

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21 posts

65 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Tom8

6,488 posts

184 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Depends on the value of your house. If you have a two bed semi then you need a white audi circa 100k in value and a 25k caravan.

alscar

9,951 posts

243 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Also depends on things like any savings or investment quantum you may have and other outgoings although with interest rates currently and possibly to come I assume your mortgage is a very large part of your income ?

TheRainMaker

7,883 posts

272 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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passport010 said:
Does this seem about right?

That all depends on you.

No one on here can answer that question.


cholo

1,183 posts

265 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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You come on pistonheads and say you're not a petrolhead? confused

Anyway, i don't think these things have any magic formula.

Do you want it?
Can you afford it?

If so, crack on!

samoht

7,281 posts

176 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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You're talking about the purchase price of the two cars.

However I'd suggest thinking about the total cost of ownership. For example, you could have an older car that cost less to buy, but carries a higher cost of repairs, fuel, maybe ULEZ daily charges etc. Over five years of ownership, the cheaper car could end up costing you about the same all-in. On the other hand, a special car could end up being worth more when you sell it, paying back some or all of the maintenance cost. After all, the lowest cost car ownership ever was Rowan Atkinson's McLaren F1, which cost him negative several million pounds overall. So you can see that just looking at the price you paid for the car doesn't really illustrate the impact it ends up having on your family finances.

The other thing is that knowing your gross income doesn't really show how much you can "afford" to spend on cars, because it depends on other outgoings too. For example, take two families with the same income but one who's just had to remortgage at 6% vs one who's still on a fixed rate at 1.5% for a few more years, the latter can probably afford to spend more on cars.

So unfortunately it's really hard to give much meaningful advice.

dibblecorse

7,620 posts

222 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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You have a gross annual income of 130k and are still borrowing from your parents ? Or are these cash gifts to run down IHT on the tapered tax relief scheme ?

Regards the 320d, how often will it get a decent run as if its just shuffling round London you'll do it no favours.

jeremyh1

1,525 posts

157 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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dibblecorse said:
You have a gross annual income of 130k and are still borrowing from your parents ? Or are these cash gifts to run down IHT on the tapered tax relief scheme ?

Regards the 320d, how often will it get a decent run as if its just shuffling round London you'll do it no favours.
130K a year and you have to ask a forum if it is right or wrong FFS Kids today!

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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TheRainMaker said:
passport010 said:
Does this seem about right?

That all depends on you.

No one on here can answer that question.
Trust me, plenty of PHers will try.

OP - will a 2016 diesel be compliant? I haven't looked at the list in a while but I had it in my head most diesels over a few years old will be charged.

resolve10

1,252 posts

75 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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It's a pointless conversation without knowing your other living costs.

I once bought a car which cost around 25% more than my annual salary at the time. Ran it for two years.

Currently I have a car that cost about 40% of my annual salary.

There is no direct answer or formula, but I would say that you should be able to afford to run two nice, new'ish cars on a combined income of £130k a year unless you have a crippling mortgage or 15 children.

J4CKO

46,925 posts

230 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Would perhaps avoid leggy 2 litre diesel BMWs if you want a quiet life, engines can be a bit unreliable with cam chains going at higher mileages, and unless you do regular longer journeys there is all that DPF stuff to contend with.

Japanese petrol engine for longevity, depends on ULEZ eligibility of course.

AlexGSi2000

810 posts

224 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Is this a troll?

Just goes to show, whatever you earn is never enough eh!

WonkeyDonkey

2,589 posts

133 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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F me.... £130k pa.

Just enjoy life and get what you want.

Ham_and_Jam

3,719 posts

127 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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You are questioning whether it’s OK to spend less than 25% of one years income on the total of two car purchases?

The whole car market would collapse if people didn’t spend more than that.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

203 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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One of the most convoluted ways of bragging about your income we've had thus far.

And that's saying something.

Does it sound right? Pathetic.

Joeywinkle

357 posts

49 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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911Spanker

3,698 posts

46 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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No it's not right. At that level of income I would be shed shopping.

iphonedyou

10,419 posts

187 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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911Spanker said:
No it's not right. At that level of income I would be shed shopping.
Or bus. Offpeak, naturally.

P1Fanatic

1,929 posts

43 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Sounds a bit excessive for your income level if I am honest. I'm on about £130m and I don't spend more than £5m per year on cars. Yachts on the other hand....

Roger Irrelevant

3,391 posts

143 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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I think in general people running 5-10 year old 320ds will be in the £200k+ income bracket so you are overreaching a bit. Therefore in time honoured PH fashion, my advice to you is to work harder.