RE: Time-warp Lancia Stratos HF Stradale for sale
RE: Time-warp Lancia Stratos HF Stradale for sale
Monday 24th July 2023

Time-warp Lancia Stratos HF Stradale for sale

From the V6 to the roadside assistance brochure - they don't come more original than this


Excuse me for a moment while I collect my jaw from the floor. This isn’t a kit car bolted together with bits from old Alfas and Fiats, nor is this an exquisitely crafted restomod (that’s my idea and you can’t have it, by the way). Nope, this is the real deal: a one-of-492 Lanica Stratos HF Stradale in need of a new home.

I say 492 examples were produced, but the actual number of road-going Stratoses (Strati?) will be far fewer than that. This is a 1970s homologation special, after all, so when the small allocation of rally-prepped machines was spoken for – or wrapped around a tree – motorsport outfits would simply pick up a ‘civilian’ Stradale and make the necessary modifications. Not to mention that, like most Lancias of the era, a chunk will have likely succumbed to rust, and you can be sure there are some tucked away in dusty garages in the thick of the Italian countryside that haven’t seen the light of day for the best part of 50 years.

So what we have here is the rarest of rarities: a 1976 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale in completely original form. That means the Ferrari Dino-derived 2.4-litre V6 is untouched at 190hp, which is all that’s needed to shift 900-odd kilos worth of steel and fibreglass from 0-60mph in less than seven seconds. Not that you’d want much more poke anyway, with the Group 4 rally cars featuring substantially wider tracks and chunky rear tyres for better traction and stability on stages. The car’s microscopic wheelbase allowed it to dance between hairpins, more often with the rear hanging out than not. Lose that rhythm and the Stratos can apparently be rather unforgiving, which isn’t hard to imagine just by eyeing it up.

Perhaps a previous owner found that out the hard way, with the ad suggesting that the only ‘restoration’ work that’s been carried out was a touch-up of paint on the passenger side “a very, very long time ago.” The rest is untouched, with the paintwork still containing decades-worth of stone chips and scuffs that journal around 14,000 miles of driving. And what a glorious colour it’s finest in, too. You don’t see many in Azzuro Blue, though I’m coming up short on finding production numbers by colour. The state of the interior is mighty impressive as well, with the glorious Havana Alcantara seats looking as though they’ve never been sat in, while the blue carpets show no signs of colour desaturation.

Moreover, all the original documentation is included with the sale, including the service book, owner’s manual and even the period-correct roadside assistance brochure. Granted, some work was carried out in 2015 (about £15,000 worth, according to the ad), though this mainly looks to have been carried out in the name of maintenance rather than restoration. And although the car is currently fitted with replacement wheels, the original rims are included in the sale and, presumably, are the ones shown in the images you see here.

The ad calls it a “time-warp”, harking back to an era when Alpine passes were full of tiny sports cars swinging from corner to corner like so many pendulums. This surely has to be one of the few remaining, totally original examples of the base Stratos in existence and, if you have the means, is an opportunity not to be missed. No surprise that you’ll need to enquire to get a price, but cars of this calibre have recently(ish) sold around the half-a-million mark. A bargain by Italian homologation special standards, and well worth it for the rare opportunity of owning one of – if not the – definitive Lancias.


See the original advert here

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British Beef

Original Poster:

2,572 posts

194 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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How much?

Whatever the daft price being asked, I would rather have a well sorted Alfa V6 replica (full fat rally replica body kit), and not be afraid to use it.

GreatScott2016

2,511 posts

117 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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As the review says, expect a high price tag but what a thing!

LankyFreak

873 posts

57 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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very cool, don't love that colour though.

sideways man

1,669 posts

166 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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I had a passenger ride in an original Stratos about 30 yrs ago, at Llandow circuit. Guy was giving it some, driving about 8/10. Sounded absolutely beautiful. I’d love one.

blue al

1,437 posts

188 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Love the Car…But
Hate any advert that has POA.
Smacks of a store in a Bazzar or Souk, in I’ll decide what you can afford, before I name my price to you.
or in this case just as likely under paying original owner, or embarrassed to show them the margin i’m going to make after beating them down.

And I’m not buying into if you have to ask the price you cannot afford it (as l know I can’t afford it already)

WPA

14,671 posts

143 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Gorgeous car however and maybe I am wrong but will people just not look at this and think it is a replica.

Also I cannot help but feel that a well sorted replica would be more usable.

Numeric

1,499 posts

180 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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WPA said:
Gorgeous car however and maybe I am wrong but will people just not look at this and think it is a replica.

Also I cannot help but feel that a well sorted replica would be more usable.
Now I have to caveat that I'm way short of affording, but as a kid my dream car was the Cobra, but knowing you can spend a fortune and have everyone think its just a fiberglass replica made me think less of the car as I got older, fabulous but a bit tarnished.

I fear you might be a little similar with this, but i suspect as its a lesser known car maybe not as copied so a little less impacted?

And maybe there are not many people who feel like me?

Chr111s

19 posts

41 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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WPA said:
Gorgeous car however and maybe I am wrong but will people just not look at this and think it is a replica.

Also I cannot help but feel that a well sorted replica would be more usable.
You will know and that's all that matters

TinpotTintop

145 posts

60 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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I like the colour, and I like the gold wheels too, even if the scheme is a bit of a Gordini/WRX mashup. I'd like to know what the '5' on the wing is for, but doesn't say in the advert.
i'd also never noticed that the name is written as STRATO'S, not STRATOS. Never knew that.

GTRene

22,451 posts

253 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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lovely, but for using such sort car, I would like a fine replica, saw 2 for sale around 125k both gr 4-ish also both 200hp+

those days you can do with a 300hp plus Stratos, otherwise those smal new cars of today are to fast,

not that its a sprinter or you have to race against others, but you want the Go which go by the looks of such in this time, not 40+ years ago :-)

Firebobby

991 posts

68 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Can't come to terms with that gaudy looking interior, reminds me of an Austin ambassador!!

Boom78

1,520 posts

77 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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I’m probably going to banned for this but to my eyes the stratos looks terrible! Terrible proportions, weird lines, odd interior. Certainly not for me.

McRors

459 posts

85 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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British Beef said:
How much?

Whatever the daft price being asked, I would rather have a well sorted Alfa V6 replica (full fat rally replica body kit), and not be afraid to use it.
Me too! Doubly so as these (unlike say an Aston V8 Vantage) are meant to be ragged senseless at high speed round hairpins.

Perhaps if I were a billionaire…

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,741 posts

127 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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In real life they are unbelievably small, unbelievably crude in terms of "luxuries" and ventilation ( check out the window winders ), not that fast, noisy and twitchy to drive.

Very beautiful and cool though. Family bought one back in the late 70s when you couldn't give them away and sadly sold in the early noughties when they still weren't vastly appreciated.... Oh well....

Earthdweller

19,334 posts

155 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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love these .. a friend of mine has a genuine one, it’s epic had it many years and paid not a lot for it

re this one i’m guessing £750k ish ?

Om

2,187 posts

107 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Wow. I love that in blue with the alcantara seats. Another of my formative dream cars.

numtumfutunch

5,172 posts

167 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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blue al said:
Love the Car…But
Hate any advert that has POA.
Smacks of a store in a Bazzar or Souk, in I’ll decide what you can afford, before I name my price to you.
or in this case just as likely under paying original owner, or embarrassed to show them the margin i’m going to make after beating them down.

And I’m not buying into if you have to ask the price you cannot afford it (as l know I can’t afford it already)
Another hater of POA and also unlikely to be able to afford it but with a car this rare its basically worth what somebody will pay. As with the Singer DLS they had at POA there is nothing to compare it to unlike looking at the sold prices at your local BCA to see what your Mondeos worth

Im guessing that if they have significant interest the price will go up from what they think its worth - DK Engineering must surely know this market pretty well - and if nobody is interested it will eventually gain a sticker price that will still turn them a profit

Probably..........





AndySheff

6,928 posts

236 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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I knew that'd be "POA" before I checked the ad.

Leins

10,438 posts

177 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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It’s very cool, and has so much rally heritage, but I can’t help thinking that I’d prefer an Alfa SZ for a whole host of reasons.

I know that’s probably missing the point, I don’t have the spare funds for one of these Lancias, and someone who does would have this in a collection with a whole host of other exotics anyway

Turbobanana

8,370 posts

230 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
In real life they are unbelievably small, unbelievably crude in terms of "luxuries" and ventilation ( check out the window winders ), not that fast, noisy and twitchy to drive
And were built to win rallies. Which they did.