Insurance - What the heck?
Insurance - What the heck?
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V8C

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1,220 posts

239 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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Anyone in the insurance industry knows what in earth is going on?

My wife's 68 reg diesel eurobox has gone from £38 a month to £75 on the renewal quote and nobody on comparing meerkats or go compare can beat that, with the lower end of the quotes in the 76 to 90 quid a month range.

She hasn't acquired any points, has an extra years NCD now the value of the car has gone down due to depreciation.

Looking at quotes with over 2 weeks to spare to renewal, so can count out the "desperation premium" they add to people who need it today / tomorrow as well.

I'm perplexed.

Anyone know what's going on here?!?

Ninja59

3,691 posts

142 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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Insurance has gone up due to inflation, delays to repairs and ultimately the cost of claims.

Whether you have or have not had circumstances change the market has, some specific models are suffering with parts theft or entire vehicle theft. The parts theft is in itself is a vicious circle as the parts delays mean more people steal parts for vehicles that then need more parts. Some people have a lack of concern on parts source when purchasing second hand, which does make the situation worse.

UTH

12,321 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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I was shocked when my multi car went from about £1,500 to £2k this year. Managed to get it down about £150 by spending some time on the phone, but still, not a nice surprise to see it jump a fair chunk for no reason.

Random Account No6

6,272 posts

216 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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I’d guess a few quid of that is the increase in loan rate to pay it monthly too.

CubanPete

3,809 posts

218 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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Reduced stock market returns.

Cost of repairs going up.

I imagine they are expecting the odd car on PCP or non ULEZ compliant vehicles to mysteriously catch fire too. This happened a lot in 2009.

Rates pushing up those that pay monthly.

My car insurance went up 3%. If I had changed companies, I could have got it to drop, but it wasn't worth the hassle for the saving for me.

cuprabob

19,738 posts

244 months

UTH

12,321 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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Random Account No6 said:
I’d guess a few quid of that is the increase in loan rate to pay it monthly too.
I pay in full frown

cuprabob

19,738 posts

244 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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UTH said:
Random Account No6 said:
I’d guess a few quid of that is the increase in loan rate to pay it monthly too.
I pay in full frown
I think he was responding to the OP and not your post.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

277 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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Companies have to offer the same cut price deals to existing customers that they do to new customers.

The result of that is that there are no longer cut price deals to move too…. Therefore they know that they can rise prices and then customers can no longer find a cut price deal elsewhere. So have to swallow the rise.

The law has feked us again. Like when the girls lost out because deals based on sex were seen as sexiest. So instead of everyone getting better rates, everyone got the worst rates.

Add inflation pressure, costs, and interest rates on top, perfect storm.

Lester H

4,409 posts

135 months

Sunday 30th July 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Companies have to offer the same cut price deals to existing customers that they do to new customers.

The result of that is that there are no longer cut price deals to move too…. Therefore they know that they can rise prices and then customers can no longer find a cut price deal elsewhere. So have to swallow the rise.

The law has feked us again. Like when the girls lost out because deals based on sex were seen as sexiest. So instead of everyone getting better rates, everyone got the worst rates.

Add inflation pressure, costs, and interest rates on top, perfect storm.
You have nailed it. Just been through the annual search, current insurer Co-op (CIS) had more than doubled. Spent two hours searching ,then lost the will to live, and renewed with them. This is where we are at the moment. I suspect that the once useful comparison sites have become cartels. Also, not an original thought, but cars have become overly and unnecessarily complex -several threads on here about that already.

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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It’s been discussed a lot recently.

This is the first time that I’ve stayed with an existing insurer. After threatening to leave they discounted it to within a few quid of the previous year which happened to be cheaper than the alternatives.

My wife’s insurance virtually doubled this year; she paid £190 last year and we eventually bought it for £370.

cobra kid

5,595 posts

270 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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UTH said:
I was shocked when my multi car went from about £1,500 to £2k this year. Managed to get it down about £150 by spending some time on the phone, but still, not a nice surprise to see it jump a fair chunk for no reason.
There is a reason. It's just not because of you.

jonwm

2,744 posts

144 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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I was dreading the renewal coming through for my T6 transporter this year.

10 years plus no claims and no change to circumstance and it's dropped nearly £100.

Not sure why but not complaining, came through last night


bencollins4

1,239 posts

236 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Ninja59 said:
Insurance has gone up due to inflation, delays to repairs and ultimately the cost of claims.

Whether you have or have not had circumstances change the market has, some specific models are suffering with parts theft or entire vehicle theft. The parts theft is in itself is a vicious circle as the parts delays mean more people steal parts for vehicles that then need more parts. Some people have a lack of concern on parts source when purchasing second hand, which does make the situation worse.
On top of this, parts delays are leading to much longer (and expensive) credit hire claims which are often several times the cost of a minor repair. Electric vehicles are also extremely expensive to fix with a limited number of garages prepared to take on the work. Tesla are in another league again. Reinsurance is also up massively. It’s a perfect storm for insurers and rates are taking a hike across the board.

sixor8

8,574 posts

298 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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It'll likely be a change of underwriter if that's an insurance broker. My motorcycle insurance went down a few quid smile but they had switched from Highway to Markerstudy. Check the details, the excess may have risen. Mine had, a lot, from £100 to £400. frown