Learner insurance
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HughT4

Original Poster:

172 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Whats the current best arrangement for learner insurance? Adding as a learner to the wifes policy on her car which we intend to use for son to learn to drive in, or get a special learner policy specifically for him?
When i learnt to drive i had my own car with my own insurance, but at present son will be using the wifes to learn in.
He will be having copious amounts of lessons too, so this is just for him to get extra experiance behind the wheel.
Cheers

(please move to correct forum if needed - i couldn't see a special insurance one)

Road2Ruin

6,484 posts

246 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I got my daughter insured as a learner on my wife's policy, volvo v40. Was only a few pounds extra. Got her own policy when passed or her car.

HughT4

Original Poster:

172 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Road2Ruin said:
I got my daughter insured as a learner on my wife's policy, volvo v40. Was only a few pounds extra. Got her own policy when passed or her car.
thank you. thats what i was planning to do, but then saw these special learner policies so wondered if they were worth considering. 👍

TwigtheWonderkid

49,088 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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If your wife's insurer don't want to do it (they might not cover young drivers at all) of will do so but at a high cost, then look to get a stand alone learner policy. If your wife's insurers will do it cheaply, then do that.

HughT4

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172 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I assume if its on the wifes policy as a named driver, if son prangs it its her NCB at risk, but if on a standalone learner policy, it'll be on that policy?

nelly1

5,665 posts

261 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I used Marmalade.co.uk for my boys.

Scrump

23,938 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Sterling have provided learner insurance cover for the two scrumplets.

Grumps.

19,979 posts

66 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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Ours had their own policy and car from the start as they soon start to build up ncb of their own.

ConnectionError

2,354 posts

99 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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I got a stand alone policy for my Son when he was learning.

My broker recommened it.

If he had an accident in my car the claim would be on his insurance not mine

HughT4

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172 posts

177 months

Thursday 10th August 2023
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thank you all for feedback. market has changed a bit since i learnt to drive. Will probably looks at a policy of his own or an initial learner one to keep risk to the wifes policy out the equation. The car her policy is currently on is cheap as chips, but when son passes he'll probably take over that car and wife will then want an intact unblemished policy for her next one, and seeing how my own policy has increase 50% in last 2 years with no claims or convictions anything i can do to minimise those costs on the higher performance cars will be better. cheers all.

Avenicus

596 posts

74 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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The Avenicus twins turn 17 shortly.

Speaking to Marmalade on the phone, they said I can have a new policy in my name (doesn't have to be with Marmalade and would be £200 a year) as the owner and keeper of the car we are buying for them and then add them to my policy as learners for roughly £60 per month. No telematics needed.
(Is this what Scrump and Twig have described?)

Once they pass, they have to have their own 'new driver policy' though.

Alternative Black Box policy option was about £1800

Anyone insured this way before?

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,174 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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seems expensive.

Assuming car is in your name and is relatively low powered, then insure it for your use/wife use, and use Collingwood to add your kids on a learner policy, probs around £200 for 6 months.

If the car is to be then used by your kids after they've passed, then Admiral are quite good, and £1200 with a high excess should see them insured no black box but limited mileage.

Avenicus

596 posts

74 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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Thanks - will check out Collingwood

Car is a 2023 VW Up so definitely don't want a black box policy in case I want some fun smile

Road2Ruin

6,484 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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Avenicus said:
Thanks - will check out Collingwood

Car is a 2023 VW Up so definitely don't want a black box policy in case I want some fun smile
Some of the black boxes connect to the users phone, so they know who is driving. The one we had could also be turned off, but only for short periods otherwise a penalty applied.

Robertb

3,855 posts

268 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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Three options really...
1. Buy young un a car, with their own insurance policy and accrue NCB. Will be quite cheap as a learner, but as you are probably aware horrific when they pass. If the intention is that they will have their own car when they pass the test, then it may be worth taking this route as hopefully they'll accrue some sort of record which may reduce the premium. As it turned out, it took my daughter over a year to pass due to covid lockdown etc so she'd already accrued a year NCB.
2. Put them on your own/other car's insurance. This will likely be by far the cheapest (I think it cost me £90 to add daughter 2 to daughter 1's policy)
3. Use Marmalade or similar and arrange a learner driver policy, the main advantage being that any accidents they have do not affect your own NCB. This can either be done monthly or for a year, which may be a waste if they pass quickly.

In my opinion, an accident under learner supervision is very unlikely so I'd be happy with (2) vs (3) as its a lot cheaper.

HughT4

Original Poster:

172 posts

177 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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We ended up initially adding son as a learner to the wifes LV policy on a citroen C1 (1 litre). Shes mid 40's and her insurance was c.£200pa. Adding him for 4 months was only another c.£200 on learner insurance. On renewal the robbing barstewards wanted £1600 for him to continue being a learner on the policy. Told them to shove it - wife got hers seperately for c.£200 elsewhere and we then got a learner policy for son with Adrian Flux for around £250-300 for the year, but this then converts to a full policy when he passes - premium will shoot up, but hes currently earning no claims even when learning.

Zigster

2,003 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th February 2024
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Going through similar thought processes with my eldest.

He turned 17 recently. He’s not bothered about driving or having a car (we have good public transport options) but realises it will be a lot easier to pass his test now rather than wait until he’s older.

He’s having lessons but we want to insure him on our Seat Mii so he can get a bit of practice between lessons. Current insurers won’t accept a learner added. Marmalade want £201 as a bolt on policy for six months (no idea whether that wil be enough to see him through his test). Alternatively, a new policy for my wife with son as a named driver would be £330 for a year (with a bit of a rebate for the remainder of the existing policy).

So is suspect we’ll be going with a new policy with him as a named driver. “Fun” starts if/when he passes him test and the annual premium jumps up to £1,000. At that point, he might be going back to public transport.