RE: Nissan 200SX S14a | Spotted
RE: Nissan 200SX S14a | Spotted
Thursday 24th August 2023

Nissan 200SX S14a | Spotted

Who needs a new Z? We'll take a new one of these, please


Life is better when there are more four-cylinder, front engine, rear-wheel drive Japanese sports cars to choose from. Toyota remembered how to build fun cars again with the GT86 a decade ago, which has since been followed up by the excellent GR86, and Mazda has been committed to the formula for over 30 years with the MX-5.

What about Nissan, then? There’s been some form of front-engine, rear-wheel drive Z on sale in the UK for decades. That was until Nissan decided to keep the new Z and Z NISMO models out of Europe owing to emission rules, following on from the GT-R being culled in the continent a year ago for the same reason. And if I were to play by my own rules, all have six cylinders, not four. A quick glance through Nissan’s current line-up serves as a staggering reminder that the company – one of Japan’s all-time great performance car makers – doesn’t have a single enthusiast car on its books. No GT-R, no Z, not even a Juke NISMO.

Sounds like you could do with an affordable, four-cylinder, FR sports car to keep up with the Joneses, Nissan. And it’s not like you’d be dipping into unfamiliar territory, either, as proven by this S14a 200SX. If anything, a new model based on the principles of the S14 would at least offer something a bit different to the GR86s and MX-5s of the world. Unlike those two, the 200SX has a turbocharger strapped to its 2.0-litre, four-cylinder engine. That’s good for 200hp but, more importantly, 195lb ft of torque, which is marginally more than what the modern, naturally aspirated cars are putting out. Granted, you’ll need to head a little higher up the rev range for peak power and torque, but a healthy dose of boost is a sure-fire way to get the rear swaying.

Naturally, this has made them incredibly popular with the drifting community. In fact, you’ve likely seen more 200SXs with wide body kits lightly sanded down by frequent contact with the road surface, than one in completely stock condition. And I don’t blame people for having a crack at tuning one of these, as they a) weren’t particularly quick to begin with (0-62mph in the seven second region) and b) there’s an abundance of aftermarket parts out there – especially from high-end Japanese manufacturers – that can add huge amounts of power without mucking everything up. To many, the 200SX was simply a blank canvas.

But we now live in a world where electric MG hatchbacks can out drag Lamborghinis. Speed isn’t everything anything, of course, and there are few joys greater than innocent little skids at reasonable speeds. So rest assured that the only modification made to this example is a new Sony stereo system with Bluetooth connectivity, although the original head unit is included in the sale. Other than that, it’s up to you on whether to use it as the basis of a project or keep it as stock and bask in its inherent goodness.

The latter could be beneficial in the long run, because stock ‘90s Japanese performance cars are a rarity these days and the market is responding as such. This 1997 Touring is listed at £16,995, marking a steep rise in S14 values over the past couple of years. That said, it does come with two folders’ worth of service history and has recently had its fuel, oil and air filters replaced, as well as new spark plugs and ‘overhauled’ brakes all round. Anyway, it doesn’t look like Nissan is planning a Silvia return any time soon, so this is the closest thing we have to a GR86 rival - and it's from 1997.


SPECIFICATION | NISSAN 200SX S14a

Engine: 1,998cc four-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 200@6,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 195@4,800rpm
MPG: 27
CO2: 227g/km
Year registered: 1997
Recorded mileage: 58,800
Price new: £25,000
Yours for: £16,995

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9000rpm

Original Poster:

60 posts

258 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Tape on the rear left light and the boot not fitting right?? Doesn't fill me with confidence when you see things like that in photos. A little bit of sales prep before photos would go a long way

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Edited by 9000rpm on Thursday 24th August 13:07

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Definitely been rear ended at some point in its life. No way is it worth that sort of money!

nismo48

7,100 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Something is not sitting correctly with the boot alignment. The gaffer tape around the tail light is not inspiring confidence in the rather high £17k asking price either.
Nevertheless it's a good car from a time when Nissan were selling decent affordable sports car'ssmile

C5_Steve

8,960 posts

133 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Certainly not immaculate by a long stretch but I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a stock one of these. The very low miles between some of the MOTs along with issues with the rear tyres and brakes suggest it was owned and garaged by someone who hardly ever drove it. Agree the rear looks like it was reversed into something and they've perhaps repaired the bumper but not the bootlid.

If the rear was structurally straight I don't think it'd be a terrible buy, with a fair chunk off that asking price.

supacool1

738 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Has pretty much the worst sounding 4 banger ever fitted to a performance car.....

Frankychops

2,049 posts

39 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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supacool1 said:
Has pretty much the worst sounding 4 banger ever fitted to a performance car.....
its a turbo.

Frankychops

2,049 posts

39 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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a) weren’t particularly quick to begin with (0-62mph in the seven second region) .

Yes, thats a quick car. they were tested multiple times in the 6's.

a real drivers car with a great chassis.

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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£25,000 in 1997 would be £45,000 in todays money.

Not sure these were really as cheap as rose tinted glasses make out...

I'd not touch this for £17k

Nowhere near as appealing as an S15 to my eyes.
For that money I'd rather have a GT86 with a chunk of change for mods.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15476113

Edited by TREMAiNE on Thursday 24th August 13:49

3GGy

876 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Looks like another JDM chancer to me.

Frankychops

2,049 posts

39 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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The Rotrex Kid

34,925 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Bonkers that these are (standard) a £15k+ car.

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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supacool1 said:
Has pretty much the worst sounding 4 banger ever fitted to a performance car.....
Exactly what I was going to comment! SR20DET, one of the only ICEs I would choose to swap for a bloody battery and electric motor, God help us... and yet the JDM fanboys will happily dump £20k in to a rebuild for one and go to war over the misguided belief it's the "Best engine ever m8" rofl

C5_Steve

8,960 posts

133 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Frankychops said:
Mmmmm much better colour combo as well.

samoht

7,263 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Yeah the SR20DET doesn't sound great, but against that it's not too heavy, powerful, torquey, not that laggy, earlier ones revved to seven-five, robust, and with a sensible chip-tune it returns decent economy. So in all objective ways it's a really really good engine, and the midrange is one half of what makes these cars so drifty.

Billy_Rosewood

3,499 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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It did sound like a fiesta, but rock solid and hands down way faster than the figures suggest! Boot was limited in the first two gears, so it wouldn't be making 200bhp between 0-60.

Miss mine a lot! A stage 1-2 car was a real weapon!

flukey5

406 posts

90 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Like most JDM sellers. It's a stbox for non-stbox money.

Avoid

fullleather

315 posts

151 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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It had a ‘linear turbocharger’ iirc?
Used to get the odd one chasing me in my rev3 mr2 turbo which always baffled them as to how a poxy mr2 could so easily stay ahead, if only they’d known at the time…..

JDM_virgin

10 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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TREMAiNE said:
£25,000 in 1997 would be £45,000 in todays money.

Not sure these were really as cheap as rose tinted glasses make out...

I'd not touch this for £17k

Nowhere near as appealing as an S15 to my eyes.
For that money I'd rather have a GT86 with a chunk of change for mods.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15476113

Edited by TREMAiNE on Thursday 24th August 13:49
In the early 2000's you could pick these up for about 2.5-3K, now you're paying double that for a rolling shell

JDM_virgin

10 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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CKY said:
Exactly what I was going to comment! SR20DET, one of the only ICEs I would choose to swap for a bloody battery and electric motor, God help us... and yet the JDM fanboys will happily dump £20k in to a rebuild for one and go to war over the misguided belief it's the "Best engine ever m8" rofl
name another mass produced 4 pot that can make a safe 380hp on stock internals. Cant get that from a GT86 Yes they dont sound great but they can be tuned to make good power for much much less than 20K.

cerb4.5lee

44,794 posts

210 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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I remember paying £12k for my 2000 X reg model with 19k miles on it back in 2002. It is still the best car I've ever had, just so much fun.

I decatted it and put a full stainless exhaust on it/filter etc. I lifted the boost from 10 psi to 16 psi and it felt like a rocket after that. It was running around 250bhp. Had it for 4 years/40k miles and I only swapped it because I really wanted a Cerbera(that was arguably a big mistake). I still miss it now.