RE: First electric VW GTI revealed at IAA
RE: First electric VW GTI revealed at IAA
Tuesday 5th September 2023

First electric VW GTI revealed at IAA

ID GTI Concept based on ID 2all, promises 'dynamic and sporty performance to the world of electric mobility'


So this is it, then: the electric VW GTI that will happen in the next few years will look a bit like this ID GTI concept. Based on the ID 2all seen earlier this year, this is another compact (4.1m long), front-drive pocket rocket which continues a GTI story that now stretches back almost 50 years. To the Mk1 Golf, lest we forget. 

Only things are just a tad different this time around, for one very obvious reason - this is the first VW GTI without an engine. Nevertheless, the promise is of a car very much like those that have created the legend: ‘The ID GTI Concept is based on the ID 2all and will be built as a sports car for the electric age that is suitable for everyday use’, reads the press material. The Mini Cooper SE has a rival already, it seems. And for those pointing out that the ‘I’ is now redundant in a GTI without fuel injection, VW has an answer: it now stands for Intelligence. Yikes.

That is drive and chassis intelligence, though, and VW is talking a good game for now on the ID GTI. It will make use of the front axle diff lock seen on current fast Golfs, as well as the Vehicle Dynamics Manager that marshals all the various systems. With the added benefit, presumably, of immediate electric power (though it hasn’t been divulged just yet how much). Indeed VW reckons that because of how precisely electric power can be metered out, a whole new raft of drive profiles can be offered. They will be selectable via something called the GTI Experience Control on the dash and, in something not seen since the old Clio 200 EDC, will also offer simulated experiences of old cars. Except now they’re all Golf GTIs. So anyone behind the wheel will be able to adjust the drive system, steering, sound and simulated shift points to mimic cars like the Mk1, Mk2 and even a Mk4, which feels an odd choice given the Mk5 must also have been possible. Anyway, it makes the ID GTI Concept into a ‘highly dynamic time machine’. Okay. 

If the driving experience looks set to be firmly from the future, then tradition is certainly respected when it comes to the look of the GTI. Note the red surround for the honeycomb grille, the familiar font for the badge, chunky arches, big wheels out at each corner, a rear spoiler familiar from recent Golf GTIs and a matt black front splitter like a Mk1. The Diamond Silver Metallic seen here is also a Mk1 colour. VW says the ID GTI Concept ‘includes clear and powerful proportions and the visual stability of a body standing confidently on its wheels.’

Heritage is celebrated inside, too. Without a gearknob to dimple like a golf ball, that treatment is now applied to the GTI Experience Control dial. In addition, all 10.9 inches of the GTI Digital Cockpit can be set to a Vintage mode that makes it look just like a Mk1 Pirelli dash. There’s some tartan trim too, of course, now called Jack-e (where it was called Jacky in a Mk6 GTI). The infotainment touch display is already said to be almost production ready and - praise be - ‘the main air conditioning functions are controlled here using illuminated buttons’. Told you they were keen on the old days.

The augmented reality head-up display might be a step too far now for a junior EV, but that tech is certainly coming. For the ID GTI Concept, it offers up information for driver and passenger, including a track map in GTI mode if the car recognises circuit driving. And the passenger can see lap times, which seems a surefire way to get them egging the driver on into an accident. More relevantly for a production ID GTI is the assurance of a low centre of gravity and (allegedly) lightweight for an EV that makes this car ‘perfect for driving on racetracks’.

When VW issues a concept car press release with information like boot capacity (490l-1,300l) and tyre sizes (245/35 R20), it’s clear that the car in question isn’t some far-flung fantasy. There’s going to be an ID 2all very soon and there’s going to be a GTI version of it that very closely resembles this very car. With what we know so far, there’s some cause to be reasonably excited. After all, who better to reinvent the GTI than the original creators of it?

Thomas Schäfer, VW CEO, added: “With the ID. GTI Concept, we are transporting the GTI DNA into the electric age. It remains sporty, iconic, technologically progressive and accessible, but now has a new interpretation for tomorrow’s world: electric, fully connected and extremely emotive. Here, driving pleasure and sustainability are a perfect match. This means GTI has a future – for our brand and for the fans. Production has already been decided as part of our electric offensive. A Volkswagen sports car for the electric age that is suitable for everyday driving: 100 per cent electric – 100 per cent emotion.” It’s a big promise alright - expect to find out if VW can deliver within the next couple of years.


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Muncher

Original Poster:

12,235 posts

278 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Sorry absolutely no interest in an electric GTI whatsoever.

MF35

454 posts

50 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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It looks well, but can anyone explain the rationale for dropping the Golf name? The Golf name has decades of favourable brand recognition behind it. To drop that for something that sounds like the name of a covid variant seems bonkers to me. Particularly so when, in a samey EV age, heritage is even more important as a differentiator.

Zenzz

144 posts

134 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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‘Looks’ very heavy, proportions wrong.

Terminator X

20,543 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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100% emotion? Behold a world first for EV!

TX.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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I really want to be enthusiastic about hot hatch EV's but i cant......this looks like it's trying very hard to appeal to the younger folk

The all important information of power figures and cost are missing so will reserve judgement until then but i dont fancy this at all the wheels are gross !

Dombilano

1,438 posts

84 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Quite like the look of it, but the 'emotion' marketing drivel makes my nuts shrink

gerlewis

115 posts

258 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Zenzz said:
‘Looks’ very heavy, proportions wrong.
On the contrary; my first thought was that it includes clear and powerful proportions and the visual stability of a body standing confidently on its wheels

AddyT.

567 posts

122 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Muncher said:
Sorry absolutely no interest in an electric GTI whatsoever.
+1

Was shaking my head reading this article whilst thinking how on earth have we ended up here. We all know why but its just insane.

chirurgus

512 posts

245 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Meted out, not metered.

It looks exactly as ridiculous as you’d expect a small VW hot hatch concept to look. I’m sure the reality will look bland and somewhat tame.

I cannot understand the phasing out of the Golf name either. How will this differ from the Seat / Skoda / Audi variant (except in cost)? I expect the Hyundai equivalent will be better looking and cheaper. The heritage attached to the VW Golf might just have made an electric successor stand out from a sea of similar machines.

abzmike

11,983 posts

135 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Electric is happening whether folks like it or not.

I think this looks good, neat, purposeful and all the better for thinking of a 3 door option.

AndyCowe

30 posts

48 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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MF35 said:
It looks well, but can anyone explain the rationale for dropping the Golf name? The Golf name has decades of favourable brand recognition behind it. To drop that for something that sounds like the name of a covid variant seems bonkers to me. Particularly so when, in a samey EV age, heritage is even more important as a differentiator.
For a start, it is Polo sized, not Golf (the Polo has been bigger than the Mk1 Golf for several generations as both have got bigger).

But the bigger reason is the ID range has a new design language to show it is something new and help attract early adopters of EVs (although I think this is the first time VW have made a good looking ID model, except maybe the Buzz). The Polo and Golf names will follow later with more traditional designs for the conservative mass market.

Justin-ow582

605 posts

134 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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I'm no VW fan but that actually looks better than I was expecting, even though it's just a collection of concept designs which are likely to change.

Prepare yourselves for obligatory posts about weight, range, charging infrastructure, net zero energy generation, screen HVAC controls and what the "i" in GTi will now stand for.

plfrench

4,856 posts

297 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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This will absolutely fly out of the door if they keep it looking anywhere near like the concept.

Great size for UK roads, really good boot - 440l (ignoring the 50l extra under the rear seats) is a fair chunk bigger than a Golf Mk7 but in a car with the exterior dimensions of a Polo.

Perfect replacement for my wife's Cupra Born if it's ready for early 2026 delivery.

GreatScott2016

2,504 posts

117 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Looks pretty good to me, more purposeful than the petrol GTI smile

Caddyshack

14,777 posts

235 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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abzmike said:
Electric is happening whether folks like it or not.

I think this looks good, neat, purposeful and all the better for thinking of a 3 door option.
It’s happening at the moment but not everyone is convinced it is here to stay as the only option longer term.

D4rez

1,668 posts

85 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Caddyshack said:
It’s happening at the moment but not everyone is convinced it is here to stay as the only option longer term.
I mean the world’s car manufacturers have been “convinced” enough to commit billions to R&D and an EV only future. I agree some forum posters are a little slow to grasp that it’s happening though. lol.

This Golf looks pretty great and another hot hatch that loses nothing in removing a verrrry bland and farty 4-pot

BlindedByTheLights

1,997 posts

126 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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I’ll make the first prediction, £55k.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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The biggest visual let down is those alloys, absolutely horrendous. VW ought to be putting BBS wheels on GTIs


MrGTI6

3,304 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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AddyT. said:
Muncher said:
Sorry absolutely no interest in an electric GTI whatsoever.
+1
+2


GTRene

22,413 posts

253 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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the grey/silver example looks very good on the outside, muscular, nice proportions, I guess its a bit bigger then it looks in the picture.

shame they use EV for this, those looks would be nice on a petrol GTI