RE: Ferrari Scuderia Spider 16M | Spotted
RE: Ferrari Scuderia Spider 16M | Spotted
Monday 18th September 2023

Ferrari Scuderia Spider 16M | Spotted

Maranello hasn't won an F1 championship in 15 years. Here's what happened the last time it did...


Felipe Massa, runner-up in the 2008 Formula 1 driver’s championship, is trying to get back the title he held for all of 30 seconds at that year’s chaotic season finale in Brazil. He’s arguing that the result of the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, which saw Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crash to bring out a fortuitous safety car, leading to the bodged pit stop by Ferrari that ultimately led to Massa’s retirement, should be annulled given that the race was rigged. So that would mean Lewis Hamilton, the 2008 champion, wouldn’t have bagged the points for a third-place finish, Massa would be victorious and social media would spiral into chaos once more.

But, to quote Massa’s former race engineer: “Felipe, baby, stay cool.”  The 11-time race winner did in fact bag a championship in 2008, just not the one he wanted. Together with teammate Kimi Raikkonen, the two managed to secure enough points over the season to nab the constructors’ title for Ferrari. Little solace for losing the driver’s title after the flag had dropped - and nor did it provide Hamilton with much comfort in Abu Dhabi 2021 - but bringing home the team trophy for Maranello is something that no Ferrari pairing has managed to do since.

Aside from one of its mechanics punching a garage wall on live TV, Ferrari was rather chuffed that it had secured back-to-back constructors’ titles, so much so that it released a drop-top version of the 430 Scuderia to mark the occasion. Obviously, Ferrari was always going to release a roofless version of the Scud, but now with 16 manufacturer titles to its name – and a willingness to put a positive spin on a painful result – the model was (presumably) swiftly rebadged as the Scuderia Spider 16M ahead of its release in early 2009.

Not only was the 16M far more exclusive than the coupe, with production capped at 499 units, it was the first track-focused, mid-engined Ferrari V8 to be offered without a top. Naturally, body strengthening would be needed to claw back the rigidity lost by ditching the roof, making it a touch heavier than the regular Scuderia, though titanium springs and new double wishbone suspension meant it was an impressive 80kg lighter than the base F430 Spider. The engine, meanwhile, was the same 510hp, 4.3-litre V8 as the standard Scud, albeit with a higher compression ratio courtesy of upgraded pistons.

That, according to some reviewers, resulted in a snappier throttle response compared to the coupe, though others argue the two were nearly indistinguishable – which is to say mind-blowing on pretty much every level. The 430 Scuderia is perhaps a smidgen underrated, given that it was sandwiched between the game-changing 360 Challenge Stradale and the extraordinary 458 Speciale, but the Scud was every bit the stand-out track car that its predecessor and successor were. The fact the Spider could match it, without a roof, just shows how special the 16M was.

Just like the follow-up Aperta variants, the 16M’s exclusivity means you’ll be paying a good £100,000-£200,000 more than the coupe. In the case of this 3,000-mile car here, that translates to a price tag of £389,850. Still, that’s a way off the near-million-pound asking price of the follow-up 458 Aperta, and that doesn’t even come with special badges celebrating Ferrari’s F1 achievements. Who knows, maybe the track-focused 296 GTS will be called the ‘Massa’ if he successfully changes the 2008 championship order. You heard it here first...


SPECIFICATION | FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA SPIDER 16M

Engine: 4,309cc V8
Transmission: six-speed automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 510@8,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 346@5,250rpm
MPG: 17.9
CO2: 360g/km
Year registered: 2009
Recorded mileage: 3,000
Price new: £198,524
Yours for: £389,840

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gonnagetyoursBenny

Original Poster:

103 posts

135 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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The Michael and Jean Todt
Ferrari's last effective squad
Massa and Alonso
Threw wins under Stefano

Arriva' and Binotto
Had style but wins not so
Perhaps the new French Fred
Can crown Carlos' head

The long wait for a Tifosi Trophy
Has been spent wasting time in the pits (mostly)
But just like Max in the desert
This 16M surely is a winner

Dombilano

1,452 posts

85 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Best part of £400k for an automated manual. High price to look like a learner driver as you set off at the traffic lights.

rodericb

8,890 posts

156 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Hey whoah hang on a bit..... titanium springs and new double wishbone suspension made it 80kg lighter than the boggo version?

Motormouth88

788 posts

90 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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A near 200k premium over list price…nah you’re good thanks

Its Just Adz

18,946 posts

239 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Really nice, but I'd rather have the coupe.

Snubs

1,427 posts

169 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Motormouth88 said:
A near 200k premium over list price…nah you’re good thanks
£195,524 in 2009 is £300,200 in today's money according to the Bank of England. So £90k over list would be a fairer comparison.

Cryssys

929 posts

68 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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I can't even afford to dream about owning something like this...

gruppeb86

639 posts

43 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Snubs said:
Motormouth88 said:
A near 200k premium over list price…nah you’re good thanks
£195,524 in 2009 is £300,200 in today's money according to the Bank of England. So £90k over list would be a fairer comparison.
Eitherway (whether you have it or not)., it's a waste of money. I would also add the BMW M3 CRT was a much worse example in case.


Edited by gruppeb86 on Monday 18th September 10:18

WPA

14,716 posts

144 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Beautiful car but I would pick a 430 Scuderia Coupe and save the extra

NGK210

5,031 posts

175 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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£390k? Not in that colour, with that gearbox.

It’s always the same MO with this dealership: illiterate, oleaginous and BS-infused ad text, and an overpriced car.

And yet, they’re still in business. Weird.

WCZ

11,523 posts

224 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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what people don't realise is owning a 16m can put you high on the list for ferrari ltd editions

MDL111

8,912 posts

207 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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The gearbox is actually very good, I prefer it to DCT (and would pick manual over both)

cerb4.5lee

44,806 posts

210 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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That is a nice looking thing I reckon, but cars like this just make me feel skint though!

fantheman80

2,645 posts

79 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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gonnagetyoursBenny said:
The Michael and Jean Todt
Ferrari's last effective squad
Massa and Alonso
Threw wins under Stefano

Arriva' and Binotto
Had style but wins not so
Perhaps the new French Fred
Can crown Carlos' head

The long wait for a Tifosi Trophy
Has been spent wasting time in the pits (mostly)
But just like Max in the desert
This 16M surely is a winner
Please stop.

Antj

1,149 posts

230 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Same price as a very nice spec 458 Speciale......... sorry but the speciale is the one to have over this and they still have a lot of mileage to go in the price stakes being the last NA V8

MissChief

7,994 posts

198 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Not normally a 430 fan but I think that looks like the dogs bks. Not that I could ever afford one mind.

garypotter

2,072 posts

180 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Awesome bit of kit i would imagine 490 of the 499 are in storage all being hidden away as an investment!!

Spleen

5,453 posts

151 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Dombilano said:
Best part of £400k for an automated manual. High price to look like a learner driver as you set off at the traffic lights.
Bit of an expert on the F1 box are we?

rolleyes

tomtom

4,265 posts

260 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Dombilano said:
Best part of £400k for an automated manual. High price to look like a learner driver as you set off at the traffic lights.
The Scuderia's F1 gearbox is peak automated gearbox. It's all downhill from there. Dual clutch is rubbish.

Spleen

5,453 posts

151 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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tomtom said:
Dombilano said:
Best part of £400k for an automated manual. High price to look like a learner driver as you set off at the traffic lights.
The Scuderia's F1 gearbox is peak automated gearbox. It's all downhill from there. Dual clutch is rubbish.
Yeah but don't let an internet hero, who's never driven one, tell you otherwise.