RE: Frontline announces first V8 and EV MG B
RE: Frontline announces first V8 and EV MG B
Thursday 21st September 2023

Frontline announces first V8 and EV MG B

Welcome the LE60 and Bee GT, MG Bs like you've never known them before...


Frontline Developments (as it was back then) might be known to committed PHers for its LE50 and Abingdon Edition MG B restomods. They were driven by PH way back, with glowing reviews: ‘huge character, true discerning exclusivity and enormous sense of fun’ was the LE50 verdict. Hopes are high, then, for the latest from Frontline (as it’s now known). One is the LE60, its first V8 build in more than 30 years of existence, and the other is the Bee - an electric MG B. With a manual gearbox…

Where to start, eh? The grey MG here is the LE60, a car pitched as Frontline’s ‘most powerful, brutish and driver focused car ever built’. Which is pretty encouraging. The V8 has its roots in the iconic Rover motor, but it’s basically just the block that’s carried over; the 4.8 now has its own forged pistons, balanced steel crank, cylinder head, conrods - everything. The exhaust manifolds are unique to the LE60 engine, there are equal length headers, and the induction plenum has been designed by Frontline’s founder and Chief Engineer Tim Fenna. This is not just one more restored British classic with a V8 in it.

Performance ought to be more than ample. The LE60 produces 380hp and 297lb ft, enough for 0-60mph in something like four seconds and 170mph thanks to a kerbweight of 1,122kg. Power reaches the road via a new five-speed manual that combines both Tremec and Frontline hardware. That’s just the start of the reengineering, too. The LE60 uses a strengthened chassis, Nitron suspension, a new pressed steel body by British Motor Heritage to Frontline’s spec (i.e. much wider), massively upgraded brakes, the Dunlop-style wheels and more. That’s in addition to a completely overhauled interior tailored to the buyer’s taste in best restomod tradition, with upholstery done by Frontline’s in-house trim shop.

Looks good, huh? As in really, really good, an MG B drastically improved for bulking up and dechroming. Frontline will build just 30 LE60s (it’s sort of meant to celebrate 30 years of the company, too, though it was created in 1991), all coupes, and it’ll cost around £200k depending on spec. Bossman Fenna describes the LE60 as a “culmination of years of passion and dedication”. He continued: “It’s a testament to the art of restoration and enhancement, a harmonious blend of heritage and modernity. Our journey began over thirty years ago, and today, as we present these special cars, we celebrate every challenge surmounted, every detail perfected, and every dream realised.”

If anything, the green car here is probably even more significant for Frontline and the genre of reimagined classics. It’s battery powered, and known as the BEE (Roadster) and BEE GT Coupe, which stands for MG B EV Edition. Both employ a Hyper9 100v motor than can rev to 9,000rpm and a 40kWh battery, which is nothing out of the ordinary for an EV. What’s different for the Frontline car is the inclusion of a manual gearbox and the ability to rev like a combustion engine. Frontline says you can even heel and toe, with torque characteristics that aim to mimic an old school ICE as well. Which is nothing if not an interesting take on the electric classic car.

Fenna once more: “We resisted conventional EV conversion despite the demand until we were able to deliver a vehicle that delivered the Frontline drive and ethos, a vehicle that feels engaging and a pleasure to drive without compromise, yet meeting modern environmental changes. The results impressed us all and retaining the gearbox and carefully tuned electric motor that deliver an experience akin to a normal ICE car is incredible. We all absolutely love them and are so pleased we can offer such an innovative and incredible line-up of EV Editions.”

All sounds very exciting, and it gets better: PH has had a go in the new Frontline builds. Sadly we can’t tell you anymore about either until October, but there’s a video coming very soon on the LE60 (hopefully it doesn’t bust any embargoes to say V8s sound fantastic) and a drive on what sounds like a fascinating electric MG. The future of Frontline looks very bright indeed.


 

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fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,645 posts

79 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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We live in strange times. Shed load of EVs at one end, loads of restomods the other, not much in the middle to get excited about

Bobley

730 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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fantheman80 said:
We live in strange times. Shed load of EVs at one end, loads of restomods the other, not much in the middle to get excited about
Get used to it!

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.

abzmike

12,033 posts

136 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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They look nice, but where are they going to find 30 people to spend £200K on these things?

Straight6s

15 posts

96 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Lovely cars, but why does the MGB etc seem to get more love than Triumph's GT6 which is just so much more beautiful in my opinion, and not just because of it's gorgeous curves. Would love to see Triumphs taken down this path

pb8g09

3,241 posts

99 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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I’ll have one of each please, with someone else’s money.

chickensoup

58 posts

42 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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How many mugs are there out there with £200K?

TristPerrin

148 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Jesus! I was not expecting that to be under the bonnet! biglaugh

howardhughes

1,415 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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What next? An EV Aston Martin 7L Vantage?

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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TristPerrin said:
Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Jesus! I was not expecting that to be under the bonnet! biglaugh
Exactly what a lot of people said at Bicester at the weekend! !!

nismo48

7,104 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Bobley said:
fantheman80 said:
We live in strange times. Shed load of EVs at one end, loads of restomods the other, not much in the middle to get excited about
Get used to it!
Silly money though

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Don't be so modest. That is fantastic.

Plus we've all got another 5 years to enjoy proper cars now.

Rejoice.


Edited by Water Fairy on Wednesday 20th September 19:46

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Water Fairy said:
Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Don't be so modest. That is fantastic.

Plus we've all got another 5 years to enjoy proper cars now.

Rejoice.


Edited by Water Fairy on Wednesday 20th September 19:46
It’s definitely same league performance and he has plans to turn up the wick once it’s bedded in.
I’ll pass on your comments - can’t get him to join ph….
He’s too busy most evenings….

RSTurboPaul

13,106 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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170mph in an MGB sounds, er... 'interesting'.

carl_w

10,764 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Straight6s said:
Lovely cars, but why does the MGB etc seem to get more love than Triumph's GT6 which is just so much more beautiful in my opinion, and not just because of it's gorgeous curves. Would love to see Triumphs taken down this path
This. Would love to have a GT6 with a modern engine in it. BMW straight 6 or RB26DETT

GTRene

22,559 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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I do like those MGB GT models, but not at such prices.

their are a few MGB GT with new body and also very nice, from say 22k

their is aslo one car builder on cars and classics who offer 'new' MGB's GT and cabrio to your liking for around 60k?, so like new, newly build.

ow even cheaper all in from 45k so say those MGB-GT V8 newly build

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1335655

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
Water Fairy said:
Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Don't be so modest. That is fantastic.

Plus we've all got another 5 years to enjoy proper cars now.

Rejoice.


Edited by Water Fairy on Wednesday 20th September 19:46
It’s definitely same league performance and he has plans to turn up the wick once it’s bedded in.
I’ll pass on your comments - can’t get him to join ph….
He’s too busy most evenings….
Please do, he's clearly very capable and a proper petrolhead

Edmundo2

1,441 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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I like the look of Frontline stuff and could imagine a k series Lenham Midget would be nice but as others say I can't take a £200k MGB seriously..

As with all restomod companies it seems they are either creaming it or it genuinely costs £150k or more to produce such a thing but even if its the latter I can't see that the end result is worth that amount..?

It's all gone mad and seemingly you only need a bit of recent history as an early established restomod company to now dine out on your name and start charging vast sums of money for what are nicely modded and tweaked everyday cars..

I'm sure they are lovely but hand over a clean £15k MGB and £85k budget to a good resto company/engineer and I sure they could cook you up something very nice indeed... Not sure where the other £100k goes..

Still the the MST Escort looks a bargain amongst all the Alfaholics/Redux/Kamm and now Frontline stuff..

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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RSTurboPaul said:
170mph in an MGB sounds, er... 'interesting'.
yes

To put it mildly

unsprung

6,054 posts

154 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Water Fairy said:
Slowlygettingit said:
Or try this style MGB. - mate has built it in his garage for approx £20k.

Was a real head turner at collecting cars last weekend and some mg thing a few weeks before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kDZnBLb0Q&pp=y...

Ok it’s not in the same league but he is driving the nuts off it most weekends now.
Don't be so modest. That is fantastic.
My thought exactly.

Don't be ridiculous: that car is outstanding.

If he could ever be a*sed to join PH, his car would have a keen audience in the Readers' Cars section.