RE: Honda NSX | Spotted
RE: Honda NSX | Spotted
Thursday 5th October 2023

Honda NSX | Spotted

Mid-engined, four-wheel drive, three electric motors and crazy fast? It's a cut price Revuelto...


Often the clever stuff Honda does is only properly recognised years after the cars have been made. Think of the first Insight, which showed how efficient a small, electrified engine could be in a lightweight car - while retaining a manual gearbox. The original NSX influenced sports and supercars years after it was introduced, proving that such novel concepts as visibility and usability need not be at the expense of excitement. Now, more than seven years after it was first driven - and with the final Type S models now being made for selected markets - it’s the turn of the second NSX to play the prescient Honda. 

It’s the Revuelto that brought the old hybrid to mind. The latest Lamborghini is a sensational supercar, proving how effective the combination of a combustion engine, three electric motors, four-wheel drive and torque vectoring can be. With a nominal electric range for posing. Remind you of anything? The 2016 NSX's V6 could never offer the power or sound of a Lamborghini V12, but it too had the trio of motors, a DCT packed with ratios (nine in this case) and a freakish ability - thanks to technology - to feel like a much smaller, lighter sports car than a 1,800kg+ kerbweight would imply. With a decent improvement in MPG and CO2. It probably won’t be much appreciated in Sant’Agata, and it should be remembered that the NSX couldn’t be plugged in, but there are definitely some similarities there. 

Much as the more user-friendly supercars followed after the first NSX, so the hybridised ones have come after this one. Cars like the Artura, 296 GTB and Revuelto have undoubtedly moved the game on - and it was obviously preceded by hugely expensive petrol-electric stuff like the P1 - but the NSX’s significance deserves recognition nevertheless. 

It was a decent supercar, too, albeit one that faced tough opposition in the form of cars like the Audi R8 V10 and McLaren 570S. The NSX just couldn’t compete on emotional, sensory appeal, even though it was just as capable. An interior that felt far too Honda for a £120k asking price didn’t help its cause. Much as with the original, its innovation was overlooked for the sake of raw thrills. Which is hard to argue with when it comes to buying mid-engined, 200mph dream machines, if still a little sad given Honda proved the validity of a concept now so popular. 

There are a few for sale on PH, in the bracket of £100,000-£125,000 that they seem to have rested in for a while. They were never quite special enough to appreciate, yet also sufficiently rare and intriguing that they were never likely to plummet either. With more hybrids out there than ever, they make an interesting alternative to the usual supercar suspects; this one just sneaks in under six figures and benefits from the rare, desirable option of ceramic brakes. It’s also been treated to Quicksilver sports cars, which ought to bring some voice to the 3.5-litre V6. If it can sound anything like an original NSX V6, then that’ll be well worth having. 

Of course, those in the fortunate position to be considering a car like this might also be thinking about a McLaren, Porsche or Audi. Plenty of stuff with more prestigious badges, basically, which probably held back the NSX as much as anything. Which is daft, really - such is the way of the world. While still a lot of money, NSXs seemed to have held steady for a while. Don’t expect that to change, either, now it can (almost) be looked on as a (sort of) cut-price Lamborghini Revuelto…


SPECIFICATION | HONDA NSX

Engine: 3,493cc V6 turbocharged with direct-mounted electric motor/generator, 2x front axle motor/generators
Transmission: 9-speed DCT, rear-wheel drive, independently driven front axle
Power (hp): 507@6,500rpm (petrol engine only), 581hp total
Torque (lb ft): 406@2,000-6,000rpm (petrol engine only), 476lb ft total
MPG: 28 (combined)
CO2: 228g/km
First registered: 2016
Recorded mileage: 13,000
Price new: £149,950 (before options)
Yours for: £99,849

See the full ad here

Author
Discussion

fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,645 posts

79 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
As a honda fan boy, I want to like it, but for that money, wouldn't be on my list and I'd be looking at the usual badge suspects. Took too long to come out, not enough presence in the flesh, poor interior. Id take an original thanks.

ex-devonpaul

1,745 posts

167 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Prices seem to have held well. I suppose it is the Honda reliability and running costs that keep them above the 570 and scarcity keeps them over the R8.

Bear in mind the original NSX was pretty unloved for a while, 15 years ago they were priced in the mid teens and were cheaper then the 348 they were pitched against.

pb8g09

3,241 posts

99 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
I wouldn’t buy it even if I had the money.

But I do think it’s a marvellous thing and no doubt would give it a good ogle if I passed it in the metal. Can’t help think this will fall into the hands of an ‘investor’.

Vsix and Vtec

1,416 posts

48 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Honda's only mistake with the interior was to not debut it in this car. The floating blueish display and the sweeping rev counter would have been lapped up had they appeared in the halo model first before filtering to the rest of the range. The car itself has always struck me as ahead of the time, and has proved to be the route taken by all high end manufacturers in time. I would gladly have one myself, as I'm certain as time goes on they will only gain in appreciation, especially when thier competition will never be as reliable with age. It may have a certain "8th Gen Civic on steroids" look, but that never seemed to hurt people's fanaticism for the R8 and its more than passing resemblance of the TT.

Edited by Vsix and Vtec on Thursday 5th October 10:20

flukey5

406 posts

90 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Having seen only one in the flesh it had far more presence than most pictures portray... however.

You'd have to really want one of these though. A supercar is a heart-over-head kind of decision, and while objectively better nobody with any heart will tell you that the modern v6 hybrid era of F1 cars make you more excited than the old-school N/A V10's.

Fortunately Audi R8s are cheaper to buy, run and have a V10.

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Liked these when they 1st came out. Side profile looks similar to the Emira. Rear looks somewhat Aston inspired. However not sure if its the colour but the front on this reminds me of a Mazda 6 or some other generic Japanese saloon. As the article states the interior is very bland & the Earwax colour seats arn't doing it any favours either. Still its rare & would stand out at a sunday scramble for sure.

JJJ.

5,589 posts

45 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Another Honda fan here but I'm really unsure about these.
I always aspired to a 'Type R' version - sans electric motors motors and generally lighter. I'm sure such car would have had rave reviews.
I'd happily settle for an NA1 all day long instead.



anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
In a heartbeat. This and a Nismo GTR would likely be my first lottery purchases!!

kambites

71,540 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
I'm sure it's a brilliant daily-driver sports car, but (having not driven one, I hasten to add!) it seems a hard car to fall in love with. Mind you I guess back in its day the same was true of the original NSX, it's only relatively recently that it's gained such a cult following.

I think I'd prefer an early manual Audi R8 and a big chunk of change to fix it when it breaks. biggrin

Edited by kambites on Thursday 5th October 10:34

carinaman

25,216 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
I think they should've called it something else.

NSXX?

NSXH?

NSXS?


To me it demeans, devalues the original NSX which to me is a name is up there with Mini, E-Type, 911.

Pillaging the back catalogue just seems like lazy Marketing 101 to me.

Mabbs9

1,670 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
I saw one in Hong Kong a few weeks ago and was really impressed with how it looked. I'd forgotten about them despite being quite until the weirder stuff.

I've considered ownership. I feel the downside would be high running/parts costs despite being a lower key marque.

Anyone on here with any experience?

pauloroberto

278 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Isn't an i8 much better value? (And some would say better looking.)

Glenn63

3,943 posts

114 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Iv always liked them and seemed to get good reviews but with my own cash like above I think I’d be heading for a V10 R8. With all that electrical gubins I’d also be fretting about a massive bill out of warranty.

Sulphur Man

301 posts

163 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Ongoing service and maintenance on these could be worrying.... I remembered this post from an NSX article on here a few years ago...from a disgruntled owner. I believe the only way to get a main dealer service on these is one Honda dealer in NW London..... might be wrong

"I have had the NSX from new and have had all the services done in London. It has not been a problem at all and has worked really well with Honda collecting.
However, after three years I have been informed by Honda that they will not offer an extended warranty, despite me having it in writing when I bought the car, that they would.
I have loved the NSX, its a fantastic car, but this has certainly put me off buying any other Honda.
The garage I use has said Honda will look at any future faults on a case by case basis, but that doesnt really fill me with confidence.
The car has been faultless during the three years and 21k miles I have done in it, but I am not sure what will now happen if faults occur in the future.
I feel its a very poor decision on Hondas part that has destroyed any loyalty I have had had with this brand.
It also means I have to drive the 2 hrs to London, wait around while they do a service, then drive back. Not good at all"

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
Always been a big Honda fan and really wanted to like these. I honestly can't think of a reason I'd have one of these over any of the competition. It ticks all the on paper boxes but that's not enough for a car like this.

cerb4.5lee

44,796 posts

210 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
I don't really know why, but I've just never liked these for some reason. I just don't find it desirable, and that is crazy really.

Gigamoons

18,084 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
JJJ. said:
Another Honda fan here but I'm really unsure about these.
I always aspired to a 'Type R' version - sans electric motors motors and generally lighter. I'm sure such car would have had rave reviews.
I'd happily settle for an NA1 all day long instead.
What he said ^^^

chappardababbar

483 posts

173 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
It's actually a cut-price 296 GTB, but not as good

Obviously it's 4wd and it came out a good few years before the 296, but I think the Ferrari added everything that the NSX was missing.

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
These should have been in freefall to 50k years ago

no interest when new, no interest when used, seemingly enough stock being sold at any one time despite low initial sales numbers

BMW Z8 anyone? whistle

Edited by satfinal on Thursday 5th October 11:36

clacs2

317 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
quotequote all
pauloroberto said:
Isn't an i8 much better value? (And some would say better looking.)
Yes, and yes.

To my mind the i8 isn't a direct rival though, the NSX is at a different performance level.

That isn't intended as a snub to the i8, I would definitely consider one as a retirement purchase.