cyclists and hi vis
Discussion
I have just driven up through Ambleside and up the lakes and am horrified at the number of cyclists (and walkers ) using the road without wearing hi vis , I think it should be made law that if using any roads as above then hi vis should be worn. Or at least light colour clothes .
Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
julian64 said:
I regularly cycle. I don't wear a helmet or high vis.
What is there to discuss?
Not wearing a helmet seems rather foolish. It may not be your fault but the side and rear of the skull offer little protection. What is there to discuss?
I suppose if you have no family maybe you are willing to take the chance.
I wear light colours evenings and when dark.
Earthdweller said:
julian64 said:
I regularly cycle. I don't wear a helmet or high vis.
What is there to discuss?
Where do you cycle out of interestWhat is there to discuss?
Along mountain roads, narrow with no pavements, high stone walls, twisting and turning perhaps, mostly national speed limit?
However, most of the roads in the area are liable to have numerous hazards including sheep, cattle, walkers, quad bikes and Japanese tourists. Anyone driving at the NSL would want their head examining.
Why anyone rides a bike without a helmet is beyond me. I cringe when I see kids flying about on scooters with no helmets too. Just have to watch 24hrs in A&E to see what head injuries can do to people, especially when helmets are available from about £10. Lots of local roads here don’t have streetlights and people wander IN the road wearing all black. As a driver it really annoys me as not only will it be my fault and my insurance paying out if I hit one of them, but I’ll have to live with that too. Common sense not too common these days unfortunately.
BlindedByTheLights said:
Why anyone rides a bike without a helmet is beyond me. I cringe when I see kids flying about on scooters with no helmets too. Just have to watch 24hrs in A&E to see what head injuries can do to people, especially when helmets are available from about £10. Lots of local roads here don’t have streetlights and people wander IN the road wearing all black. As a driver it really annoys me as not only will it be my fault and my insurance paying out if I hit one of them, but I’ll have to live with that too. Common sense not too common these days unfortunately.
Humans are generally not very good at estimating risk. Hence many think cycling without a helmet is madness.I got hit by a car one morning cycling to work. 2 bright lights front and rear and the all important high-vis jacket... Maybe there needs to be a law where people cannot leave their houses without wearing a 1 piece high-vis boiler suit so bad drivers can continue to eschew responsibility for poor observational skills.
The big yin said:
I have just driven up through Ambleside and up the lakes and am horrified at the number of cyclists (and walkers ) using the road without wearing hi vis , I think it should be made law that if using any roads as above then hi vis should be worn. Or at least light colour clothes .
Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
Discuss how hi viz is going to help if the wearer is hidden by a corner or foliage.Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
I had a serious bike crash last year and my helmet must’ve saved me from pretty unpleasant damage, given that I hit my head on the ground and then broke my back.
Nonetheless, this was an incident without a car being involved. A helmet wouldn’t have helped much if one was involved, lesser still a bigger vehicle.
There’s so much out there from reputable, dispassionate sources. Those who don’t ride bikes regularly really should check how the evidence compares to common sentiment.
One example is that bright colouring, makes a little difference to outcomes. Reflective material might slightly help outcomes, but it’s marginal at best.
Nonetheless, this was an incident without a car being involved. A helmet wouldn’t have helped much if one was involved, lesser still a bigger vehicle.
There’s so much out there from reputable, dispassionate sources. Those who don’t ride bikes regularly really should check how the evidence compares to common sentiment.
One example is that bright colouring, makes a little difference to outcomes. Reflective material might slightly help outcomes, but it’s marginal at best.
Antony Moxey said:
The big yin said:
I have just driven up through Ambleside and up the lakes and am horrified at the number of cyclists (and walkers ) using the road without wearing hi vis , I think it should be made law that if using any roads as above then hi vis should be worn. Or at least light colour clothes .
Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
Discuss how hi viz is going to help if the wearer is hidden by a corner or foliage.Although it was during the day and light when they were in an area hidden by a corner or foliage and wearing dark clothes it made them way more difficult to see .
I also think cycle helmets and lights should be compulsory.
Discuss please .
Yep its your choice but the amount of doddery old folk in cars i meet on my travels , who have a job to steer in a straight line why would you increase the risk of not being seen ?
no good being hit and wrecking your expensive carbon bike or worse ending up in casualty . Either way its going to ruin your ride ,,
And if your Hi Vized up you have a better chance of being seen at the last minute on a blind bend as opposed toi someone not seeing yoyu at all .
So yes HI viz helps
Edited by Purosangue on Monday 16th October 19:25
Sion111R said:
I agree. I’m a keen and regular cyclist myself and wear a vivid yellow top etc. I am astounded how many cyclist wear black or dark colours making themselves hard to (easily) spot against dark hedgerows and under the shadow of trees.
SameI don't care if the law didn't need it, if it means I don't get smacked while riding and end up in hospital im happy to ride in many many decent options of bright clothing and a couple of cheap front and rear daylights and enjoy being outside having fun....
I almost run over someone who was dressed in head to toe camouflage, at night, on the wrong side of the road (ie, walking with his back to traffic), with headphones on.
I often think how f
ked I'd have been if I'd hit this invisible man.
What a fking idiot.
None of this is exaggerated either. Doesn't even seem real that people can be that stupid.
I often think how f
ked I'd have been if I'd hit this invisible man.What a f
king idiot.None of this is exaggerated either. Doesn't even seem real that people can be that stupid.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 16th October 19:33
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