RE: Audi marks 25 year of TT... at the TT
RE: Audi marks 25 year of TT... at the TT
Tuesday 17th October 2023

Audi marks 25 year of TT... at the TT

A quarter-century ticks over just as Audi calls time on the era-defining TT - where better to wave it off?


Back when sports car buyers might also be tempted by a Nissan 350Z, Vauxhall Monaro, BMW Z4, Mazda RX-8 or one of numerous others, it was easy to be dismissive of the TT. Not special enough, not exciting enough, too reminiscent of the hatchback beneath. Yet here we are, 25 years after launch and with production about to end, ready to mourn the TT. It’s always looked smart, there have been some superb engines available, and certain versions actually drove very nicely indeed. 

Little wonder, then, that with UK sales soon to cease, Audi is keen to remind us all of the TT’s enduring popularity. More than 157,000 have been sold in this country since 1998, but it's easy to forget what a monumental impact the TT had on Audi's image in the late 20th century. A young, dynamic model in the lineup back then was an A3 1.8 T - otherwise it was A4, A6, A8, the Convertible, and that was pretty much it. Audi was even three years from its first RS4 in 1998. The brand was more interested in evoking a stoic, sombre quality than the Bauhaus-inspired style and aluminium details that would come to define it. Combining the latter with Audi solidity delivered an instant hit, its buyers delighted to find the local showroom stocked with a production car that mimicked the svelte concept from 1995. In the eight years until 2006, more than 56,000 TT Coupes and Convertibles were sold in the UK. 

It wasn’t just significant for the look, either - the TT was also where Audi debuted the dual-clutch transmission technology that’s now commonplace. And the first generation bowed out with the Quattro Sport; prior to the TT it was hard to imagine Audi having the confidence to launch a stripped-out two-seater, but such was the impact it had at the time. 

Inevitably the updated look of follow-up could not repeat the impact of the original (undeniably, the TT suffered from the law of diminishing returns) but the second TT has enjoyed a similar fate to many other Audis of the mid-2000s: it looks handsome to this day. It introduced the first TT S (still regarded as one of the best derivatives to drive) as well as the five-cylinder RS, resurrecting the two-door Audi coupe that sounded like a rally car - and not before time. A heavier engine didn’t help the handling, but it was hard to argue with the sound and the turbocharged output. Especially if you could nab one with a manual gearbox, the only time in the UK that the legendary inline-five was matched to a six-speed. 

It’s incredible to think that the current (and final) TT was launched almost a decade ago, because it still looks so good. We’re so familiar with it now that you wouldn’t look twice, but in a world of bloated SUVs (even the ‘coupes’!) it’s a real treat to see a compact, attractive, well-proportioned two-door out there. Perhaps that more truthfully applies to the lesser TT models, because some of the RS add-ons got a bit silly - although it's also likely to be a classic case of missing what you’ve got when it’s gone. There really aren’t many two-doors left at all now, and the Mk3 TT remains a great bit of design, inside and out. Beyond that, this TT was probably best known for cranking the RS to 400hp. It was certainly fast, we’ll give it that. 

To mark the 25th birthday, Audi has taken its heritage fleet Mk1, plus a TT S Final Edition and the TT RS Iconic Edition, to the place that gave the car its name - the Isle of Man TT course. Where - guess what - they still look ace, even if the Iconic Edition is probably an OTT TT. Audi’s press release that accompanies the lovely snaps is nothing if not confident: ‘Audi may be reorienting towards electrification as it pursues its aim of becoming a leading provider of sustainable mobility, but the same passion for progress and innovation that gave rise to the TT remains firmly rooted in its Vorsprung durch Technik ethos. Thankfully, that means history of the kind made by this particular masterpiece of automotive design looks set to regularly repeat itself.’ 

Imagine what a car that completely redefines Audi’s image for the EV era, as the TT once did, might now look like. You could argue a lightweight two-seat sports car might do it. But then nobody would buy one. Anyway, if the future doesn’t appeal much, there’s a lot to be tempted by over 25 years of the Audi TT in the classifieds. We’ve seen them at Shed money for a little while now, but as the real scrap is moved on, so values are strengthening just a tad. But with so many sold, bargain Mk1 TTs do still seem to be out there. Only £4k buys a low mileage, one-owner 180 Coupe; there are examples out there boasting that glorious V6, and a manual if you’re lucky, for not much more, though the best of those are now above £10k. Still not much considering what the engine will cost in a Golf. A Quattro Sport remains the most valuable original TT, with something like this 90k example up at £12,995.

Obviously we won’t go through every Audi TT for sale on PH, but there are a couple more worth drawing your attention to. Manual ones, specifically, because nothing quite compels involvement in a driving experience like three pedals and a stick. This original TT S has a smart spec and a very enthusiastic owner, while this stunning Kingfisher Blue RS must be a one-of-one with the six-speed (and Exclusive Ivory leather). Finally, a car we didn’t think actually existed: the most recent TT S, without the DSG. Must be rarer than that silly Iconic Edition. And definitely better to drive. Anyway, thanks for the memories, TT. It was fun while it lasted. 


 

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Turbobanana

Original Poster:

8,433 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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The original looks tiny in that company, and still the best to my eyes.

bristolracer

5,951 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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That’s relevant for a car company.
Maybe when they axe the Golf they could take it to St Andrews?

Twinair

1,037 posts

172 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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‘Leading provider of sustainable mobility…’

What, a bit like the recycling ‘friendly’ aluminium crutches I have in my garage?!?

Wow, that’s the stuff to get the ‘want factor’ up to 11… not..!

When the tt was launched, it was a shape like no other - and it was cool & fun, remember that - when ‘mobility’ was:

Cool

&

Fun

All being cancelled & not even a puff of resistance…

PositronicRay

29,013 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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I remember the dealer launch at Millbrook, all FWD 180s.

Brilliant.

cerb4.5lee

44,770 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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I always have slightly mixed feelings about the TT. I really enjoyed driving the Mk1 manual 225 model when it first came out, plus I was very impressed with the Mk1 3.2 V6 DSG model that I drove as well a few years later.

However when we got a brand new 2012 Mk2 TTS Black Edition S-Tronic back in 2012 it left us both a bit flat with the way it drove though. I think that was down to the fact that I had more experience with driving/owning performance cars by 2012 to compare the TTS to though. Whereas when I drove the Mk1 TT's they felt more special/impressive because I had less experience with performance cars back then I reckon.

I still fancy a Mk3 TTS though. Plus I've always lusted after the 5 cylinder engine from the TTRS too. I will ultimately miss the TT because I've always liked the way it looks, and they are definitely lovely things to sit in and live with I think as well.

GreatScott2016

2,530 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
I always have slightly mixed feelings about the TT. I really enjoyed driving the Mk1 manual 225 model when it first came out, plus I was very impressed with the Mk1 3.2 V6 DSG model that I drove as well a few years later.

However when we got a brand new 2012 Mk2 TTS Black Edition S-Tronic back in 2012 it left us both a bit flat with the way it drove though. I think that was down to the fact that I had more experience with driving/owning performance cars by 2012 to compare the TTS to though. Whereas when I drove the Mk1 TT's they felt more special/impressive because I had less experience with performance cars back then I reckon.

I still fancy a Mk3 TTS though. Plus I've always lusted after the 5 cylinder engine from the TTRS too. I will ultimately miss the TT because I've always liked the way it looks, and they are definitely lovely things to sit in and live with I think as well.
They’ve always been a bit of a strange one for me. No denying that the design has stood the test of time and I believe that the driving dynamics have improved as the model developed. If I’m honest, the latest high performance versions look as though they are “trying a bit too hard” but as you say, there’s no denying that 5 cylinder engine. I’ve still not ruled out a new RS3 simply because of that engine! smile



Rumblestripe

4,080 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Pedaller said:
Interesting that the mk1 car featured here doesn’t have the spoiler that was added in the high speed stability recall.
Yeah, I noticed that. Or does my memory defeat me, I thought they would all have been "done"?

Anywho, I agree that purely in design terms the Mk1 remains the best looking and must Shirley be on the cusp of "classic" status.

fourscore

97 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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farewell TT..Now where can I get me some posters of the latest sustainable mobility devices for my wall?

smilo996

3,844 posts

200 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Too close in design terms to the Beetle and compromised because it was on the Golf platform. Making the bonet profile much too high.
It should have looked and the RCZ needed a 1.8-2.0 and imagine it with a V6.


Wab1974uk

1,401 posts

57 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Never owned one, but always liked them. Especially in RS guise. Maybe I should have bought one.

For me, they've always had outstanding interiors. OK, the TT would never win any group tests, but it was never designed to take on the Boxter. It's a stylish coupe what driven at 8-10th would be very very fast along any given road.

TheMilkyBarKid

879 posts

59 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Fond memories of my MK1 225 and it’s a real shame the TT is done. With the GR86 being impossible to buy new is that the affordable coupe as a body style dead in the UK? Apart from the 2 series (which is more of a 2 door saloon than coupe to my eyes) I can’t think of another?

andy43

13,225 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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fourscore said:
farewell TT..Now where can I get me some posters of the latest sustainable mobility devices for my wall?
Fire up the, err, no, sorry, as you were…

daveco

4,410 posts

237 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
I always have slightly mixed feelings about the TT. I really enjoyed driving the Mk1 manual 225 model when it first came out, plus I was very impressed with the Mk1 3.2 V6 DSG model that I drove as well a few years later.

However when we got a brand new 2012 Mk2 TTS Black Edition S-Tronic back in 2012 it left us both a bit flat with the way it drove though. I think that was down to the fact that I had more experience with driving/owning performance cars by 2012 to compare the TTS to though. Whereas when I drove the Mk1 TT's they felt more special/impressive because I had less experience with performance cars back then I reckon.

I still fancy a Mk3 TTS though. Plus I've always lusted after the 5 cylinder engine from the TTRS too. I will ultimately miss the TT because I've always liked the way it looks, and they are definitely lovely things to sit in and live with I think as well.
I've driven the Mk3 TTS for about 1,000 miles - terrible car imo. The front end "bunny hopped" on high speed bends and the steering has zero feel. Not sure how they manage to find a market amongst car enthusiasts at all. It felt decidedly ordinary and unsporty.

Mr Peel

637 posts

152 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Was admiring a really tidy Mk1 Roadster at a car show on Sunday. Nice-looking thing and appealing for summer weekends and road trips. But after 6 months you'd be thinking "should have bought an MX5".

WPA

14,707 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Turbobanana said:
The original looks tiny in that company, and still the best to my eyes.
Agreed, clean and fuss free design.

As another posted said however, wonder why has it not got the rear spoiler

mwmackenzie

139 posts

293 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Why no MK2 in the pics, not much of a sent off when you miss a whole generation of the car in the road trip. it really has grown some.. I recall the original back seats were useless with me in the drivers seat at a mere 5'9" but when I tried the kids in the MK3 they fitted right in, not sure it that made me happy or not hahaha

Mackofthejungle

1,229 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Pedaller said:
Interesting that the mk1 car featured here doesn’t have the spoiler that was added in the high speed stability recall.
It was an optional recall, because it wasn't really an issue - more of a "braking from far too fast into a tightening corner" issue.

The Audi engineers I used to know said it drove worse with the updates (there were suspension tweaks too if I remember correctly?), so I remember quite a few of us not bothering. Looked far better without the spoiler too.

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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Have a soft spot for the TT. Even though the ride and handling improved as it got older, it's the Mk1 for me.

A 1.8 Quattro Coupe in silver with the tan interior is a wonderful thing. An absolute modern classic that will go down in car design history.

Taz73

504 posts

42 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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mwmackenzie said:
Why no MK2 in the pics, not much of a sent off when you miss a whole generation of the car in the road trip. it really has grown some.. I recall the original back seats were useless with me in the drivers seat at a mere 5'9" but when I tried the kids in the MK3 they fitted right in, not sure it that made me happy or not hahaha
I too wondered where the MK2 was, does seem odd to not include one from each generation.

Taz73

504 posts

42 months

Tuesday 17th October 2023
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The MK1 is definitely an icon, the later generations may well be better to drive but they lost a little bit of the concept car style that made the MK1 seem so special.