RE: Half-a-million pound Prodrive P25 for sale
RE: Half-a-million pound Prodrive P25 for sale
Wednesday 18th October 2023

Half-a-million pound Prodrive P25 for sale

Restomod aimed to achieve what the 22B couldn't - be a proper road-going WRC machine


A Subaru Impreza has always been a cheap way to big turbo, big horsepower glory. It wasn’t that long ago when a well-maintained WRX STI could be had for four figures, while 22Bs were changing hands for less than £35k. Admittedly, a non-STI can still be picked up for peanuts these days, but a pink badge and all that it entails now commands a serious premium. A decent Type-UK starts from around £15k, and expect to add at least another £5k on top for a JDM car. And a 22B? Think quarter of a million plus.

Now, of course, there is a car that makes the 22B look like an imposter. Because it is. Well, that’s basically what Prodrive general manager Richard Thompson told me when the outrageous P25 restomod debuted at last year's Goodwood Festival of Speed. To be fair, he does have a point. The 22B may look like the WRC car that Colin McRae and Richard Burns drove in the late 1990s, but it’s essentially a WRX Type R with a higher displacement engine and most of the STI parts catalogue thrown at it. That doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s one of the coolest Scoobs of all time - it just didn’t share much in common with the rally car.

That thought served as the catalyst for the P25’s development. (Well, that and Prodrive wanting its own slice of the booming restomod market.) The aim of the P25 was to be the road-going version of the squad's rally machine that never was. It’s still based on the Japanese-only, two-door Type R, just as the rally cars were, before being stripped to the bare shell and rebuilt with meticulous detail by one of the great motorsport engineering outfits. This of course means nearly every body panel (minus the doors) has been replaced with lightweight carbon composite equivalents, which helps lower the kerb weight to just 1,200kg – steel chassis and all-wheel drive system included.

There’s a lot more going on under the Peter Stevens-designed bodywork (yep, he was called back in for the P25). The 2.5-litre boxer engine comes from the latest WRX, only it too has been rebuilt from the ground up with a host of Prodrive parts – including new pistons, conrods and valvetrain – plus an Akrapovic racing exhaust for extra burbly goodness. That amounted to 400hp and 443lb ft of torque, which is at least 50hp more than the WRC cars were producing in period. On that note, the P25 gained a WRC-grade launch control system, active adjustable limited-slip differential and a fly-by-wire throttle. It would be no surprise to learn that the P25 is a more capable rally car than Prodrive’s old WRC machines.

It feels every bit like a rally car inside, too. The sequential gearbox is accessed through a single paddle on the steering wheel, where pulling forward shifts up and pushing back shifts down. Meanwhile, the floor-mounted peddle box is a proper racing unit. In fact, it takes up so much room that it raises your feet off the floor, resulting in a seating position that feels more like a single-seater. Don’t go expecting Singer-style leather all over the place, either. You do get an infotainment screen, a digital dash, bucket seats and wireless phone charging - but that's about it.

With that in mind, the £530,000 + VAT asking price of this example might seem a little tough to swallow, as that sort of money could bag you a top 911 restomod or even a Kimera 037. But the P25 was never intended to fit in with the Monaco, Pebble Beach or Villa d’Este crowd; it’s world-class motorsport engineering wrapped up in a package we all know and love. And in a market where opulence is king, a purely driver-focused offering is a welcome breath of fresh air.


See the original advert here

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sege

Original Poster:

604 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I guess it didn't live up to the owners expectations. The non-speculative market for these must be minuscule, but from what I've read if you did want to drop half mil on a car to actually enjoy, these are pretty awesome.

Terminator X

20,672 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Beautiful (to me as an old school Scoob dude) but as usual the price is insane!

TX.

blue al

1,438 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Read the advertisement again…seems to be 2 cars build slots for sale rather than the finished car or it was wrote some time ago ….


We are offering here one of our two P25 cars, which is expected to be delivered to us upon completion of build late summer 2023.

soad

34,663 posts

206 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Original car looks better. cloud9

This will be a right weapon though. smokin

Arsecati

2,781 posts

147 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Hmmm, so instead of these 25 cars going to 'ultimate enthusiasts', Prodrive needed the help of actual dealers to fill the build slots for them?

AKjr

653 posts

41 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Am I the only one that prefers the looks & charm of the 22B compared to the mad hatter appearance of this thing, as powerful as it is? silly

stavr0ss

269 posts

158 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I’m not the target market for even a regular scooby, let alone this, but I struggle to see why anyone would order one over a lister bell from maybe a tenth of the price?

asci.white

557 posts

103 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Arsecati said:
Hmmm, so instead of these 25 cars going to 'ultimate enthusiasts', Prodrive needed the help of actual dealers to fill the build slots for them?
Or, the dealer just wanted to sell one or two and paid for the build slots because they are enthusiasts of the original?


Augustus Windsock

3,794 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Go on then, I’ll be the predictable @r5ehole that says
“I’d rather drop the money on a Sport Quattro, Delta S4, Stratos, 205 T16 or RS200”.
This is surely a lovely thing, impeccably built but I just don’t see the ‘value’ in this.
It’s not that I don’t like Imprezas, I’ve owned a mint ‘classic’ and a low miles WR1, but this is just not for me, not withstanding I don’t have the £££…

Jon_S_Rally

4,455 posts

118 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I think Prodrive made a mistake even allowing mention of the 22B alongside this. It's almost invited people to criticise the price. This was never a modern reinterpretation of that car and, if you think of it as a tuned-up 22B, you will never "get it". Think of it instead as a WRC car that's been turned up to 11 and then made into a road car. On that basis, the massive price tag starts to make sense.

stavr0ss said:
I’m not the target market for even a regular scooby, let alone this, but I struggle to see why anyone would order one over a lister bell from maybe a tenth of the price?
If someone has half a million quid to drop on a weekend toy, I doubt they're going to be too worried about what alternatives they could have bought. If they wanted a Lister Bell for 50k, they'd probably have one as well. Cars like this aren't bought by people who are restricted to choosing one car over another, they can generally buy what they want and will have a whole collection of cars, or will be cycling through things fairly regularly.

Scoobysaurus

360 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I assume the price is speculator driven
£530k + vat = £636k
They were announced at £550k?
Will be interesting to see how many more build slots are sat with people intending to trade them
But then at £0.5mio what is another £80k or so unless there aren’t 25 people wanting a £0.5mio Impreza
Will watch with interest in the longer term to see which way these go


Edited by Scoobysaurus on Wednesday 18th October 07:12


Edited by Scoobysaurus on Wednesday 18th October 07:52

jakeb

294 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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This has been for sale for several months.

Spraying the radiator black would have transformed the front. The headlamp covers / orange indicators and the pink badge have been deleted for the worse.

The front (and wing mirrors) make it look mod'd rather than restomod'd

Dombilano

1,446 posts

85 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I'd want anti-lag and a co driver thrown in for £500k+

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Half a million bucks for a Subaru with Chinese lights.

NOPE.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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i love scoobies but this price is insane, especially when you can go buy a lotus Exige for 50/60k, this car collector thing is getting out of hand

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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jakeb said:
This has been for sale for several months.

Spraying the radiator black would have transformed the front. The headlamp covers / orange indicators and the pink badge have been deleted for the worse.

The front (and wing mirrors) make it look mod'd rather than restomod'd
Couldn't agree more.

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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blue al said:
Read the advertisement again…seems to be 2 cars build slots for sale rather than the finished car or it was wrote some time ago ….
Yeah the advert is stale, first saw it probably 6 months ago.

Howard1650

345 posts

221 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Scoobysaurus said:
o unless there aren’t 25 people wanting at £0.5mio Impreza

Edited by Scoobysaurus on Wednesday 18th October 07:12
this

86wasagoodyear

984 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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No proper gear lever or clutch pedal ? I'm oot.

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Been for sale that long i reckon 1st to offer £400K they'd snap their arm off. Only one direction in price this going & it aint vertical!