RE: New 5 Series Touring 'available from spring 2024'
RE: New 5 Series Touring 'available from spring 2024'
Wednesday 18th October 2023

New 5 Series Touring 'available from spring 2024'

BMW still isn't quite ready to show us the latest 5 Series wagon - but it sure is excited about it 


BMW can’t seem to stop banging on about what it’s got in store on the new 5 Series Touring front. Back in June, it announced that an M5 wagon would be (at long last) returning to dealerships next year with its all-new, XM-donated powertrain; now, off the back of the European market launch of the saloon, the manufacturer has taken the opportunity to remind us that the regular 5 Series estate is inbound, too - confirming that it will be available from next spring with ‘the same range of drives’. 

What it means by that, of course, is that you will be able to get the full engine lineup already made available in saloon format - and the significant thing there is that you’ll be able to buy an i5 Touring, BMW’s first dedicated all-electric estate car. Granted, the thought of a 550e xDrive Touring (i.e. the 489hp plug-in hybrid version furnished with a 3.0-litre straight six petrol and 50ish miles of electric range) might fit more conveniently into your life - and that’s if an entry-level 208hp 520i doesn’t - but rest assured it’ll be the exclusively battery-powered model that will steal all the limelight when the covers do finally come off. 

Not just because you’ll be able to buy it in two derivatives - though you will, starting at the rear-drive eDrive40 and ending with the 601hp i5 M60 - but because everything is now primed for the Touring to go mano a mano with the incoming all-electric A6 E-tron, the car that Audi has tasked with propelling it back to the head of the stylish wagon market. Early indications are that it has launched itself at this design task with considerable gusto; based on the teaser pic (and some additional leakage elsewhere on the internet), early indications are that BMW has made the i5 Touring look like an i5, which may be a harder sell. 

But there’s everything to play for as we hit the home stretch. Particularly as BMW is at pains to remind us that the new 5 Series Touring is the first ‘premium car of its kind’ to be offered with a choice of powertrains that include 48-volt assisted combustion engines, plug-in hybrids and all-electric drive. Which reflects the supreme flexibility of its Cluster Architecture (CLAR) platform if nothing else. Of course, if this all sounds like gravy with a yet-to-be-seen M5 Touring inbound, we’re with you. And with the Geneva Motor Show pencilled in for the end of February, BMW apparently has every intention of making it a happy new year for fast estate fans. Which is all of us. 


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Master Bean

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5,227 posts

150 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I'll take the boggo 520 please to waft along the motorway.

Rob 131 Sport

4,881 posts

82 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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It’s just a shame that with all money invested in Diesel technology over the last 30 years, this option doesn’t appear to exist.

GTEYE

2,488 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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BMWs recent decision to cull most of its diesel range was a mistake.

The 530d was the perfect car in the range previously, a superb balance of performance and economy. The perfect car for a higher mileage trip.

50 miles of EV range still doesn’t cut it from the latest hybrid “e” models.

wistec1

800 posts

71 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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GTEYE said:
BMWs recent decision to cull most of its diesel range was a mistake.

The 530d was the perfect car in the range previously, a superb balance of performance and economy. The perfect car for a higher mileage trip.

50 miles of EV range still doesn’t cut it from the latest hybrid “e” models.
100% agree

wistec1

800 posts

71 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Rob 131 Sport said:
It’s just a shame that with all money invested in Diesel technology over the last 30 years, this option doesn’t appear to exist.
I share your sentiments. It was a mistake to prematurely trash such an outstanding engine.

kambites

71,517 posts

251 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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wistec1 said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
It’s just a shame that with all money invested in Diesel technology over the last 30 years, this option doesn’t appear to exist.
I share your sentiments. It was a mistake to prematurely trash such an outstanding engine.
Rightly or wrongly, diesel in the UK is pretty much dead. Pure ICE diesels have made up less than 4% of the new car market so far this year, which I suspect simply isn't enough sales to justify bringing new diesel models here even if they're made for elsewhere (which they may well not be, I don't know).

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anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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I will be keeping my 535d F11 for the foreseeable future.....i say go buy the 3 litre diesel now before everybody wants to resto mod them.....and charge half a mill to buy it back..... smile

i am interested to see the looks of this vehicle when it comes out.....i fear it will be hideous but maybe the M5 Estate is something to drool over....

wistec1

800 posts

71 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Back in early 2020 someone at BMW gave me very accurate advanced information about the demise of diesels within the BMW group and what was then the next 5 series. I immediately ordered a 530d individual however with the semiconductor shortage it was significantly delayed. It eventually arrived on 3rd April 2023. As it landed my informant advised me that it was one of the very last if not the last chassis numbered rhd 530d to come off the production line to the UK. I consider myself very lucky having put my order in for the car 3 years earlier to actually have it now. It's a keeper so much so I'm already planning a full restoration rebuild of it in 6 years time. I will never go to EV. One of the reasons for that is again my informer at BMW and the car makers long term power plans, that's before the current styling direction is considered which imho is terrible having said that the new 5 has been spared the gaping gob look.Perhaps someone at BMW listened.

cerb4.5lee

44,767 posts

210 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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We do around 30k miles a year in one of the cars(and have done since 2006), so diesel has always worked for us for that. So I'm a bit sad to see the modern diesel engines getting axed as well. We will have to have a rethink going forward then I reckon. Hybrids don't appeal because of the extra weight over an ICE only car, plus a pure EV doesn't appeal either. So it might just be a case of getting a petrol only car instead I think in the future instead, and just suck up the more expensive fuel bill.

Jay_87

1,072 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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While I love BMW I can't find anything in modern cars that I like. I'l stick with my 13 year old E61, still haven't found a car that does it better.

WPA

14,707 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Photographed in the dark, must be another good looking BMW

pb8g09

3,241 posts

99 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Jay_87 said:
While I love BMW I can't find anything in modern cars that I like. I'l stick with my 13 year old E61, still haven't found a car that does it better.
Agree but to a different gen. I’ve got a 2015 plate and wouldn’t have any new models newer than that as they simply don’t appeal (except the original M2).

That gunmetal grey e39 M5 that’s been up for £20k flirts with me on a weekly basis. Why hasn’t anyone else bought it?!

Shy talk

52 posts

80 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Jay_87 said:
While I love BMW I can't find anything in modern cars that I like. I'l stick with my 13 year old E61, still haven't found a car that does it better.
Yup, sticking with the 2015 335d touring for the foreseeable. Perfect blend of grunt and economy plus I find most other new cars out there are annoyingly overstyled with unnecessary false features to try and appeal to the punters out there.🤢

axel1990chp

1,323 posts

133 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Good Riddance to diesel from my part. Not soon enough

They're awful machines that cause the worst pollution possible. The large influx of chavs who map the nuts off Diesels and blast absolute SOOT into the air, at pedestrians, cyclists, drivers with their windows open, into your gardens with your children playing, is offensive. Has it not been proven to be one of the largest factors to the increase of cancer, or am I mistaken?

Ill stick to my petrol engines as always - when the time comes I suppose I've no option but to go EV with the rest of them.

Cant wait to see the new Touring range and the M5 included. The E61 M5 is one of my dream cars if I could afford the obvious upkeep of them these days.

plfrench

4,922 posts

298 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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wistec1 said:
100% agree
Sales figures suggest otherwise. Way less than 4% market share for new Diesel cars in the UK this year and still falling rapidly. Just not worth the effort of marketing it here.

el romeral

2,189 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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axel1990chp said:
Good Riddance to diesel from my part. Not soon enough

They're awful machines that cause the worst pollution possible. The large influx of chavs who map the nuts off Diesels and blast absolute SOOT into the air, at pedestrians, cyclists, drivers with their windows open, into your gardens with your children playing, is offensive. Has it not been proven to be one of the largest factors to the increase of cancer, or am I mistaken?

Ill stick to my petrol engines as always - when the time comes I suppose I've no option but to go EV with the rest of them.
Totally agree, having a diesel engined car in your portfolio is not a good look for manufacturers these days, regardless of how “good” these engines may have been.

Bit worrying that BMW appear a bit scared to reveal how this new one looks - I hope I am proved wrong.

GreatScott2016

2,530 posts

118 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
We do around 30k miles a year in one of the cars(and have done since 2006), so diesel has always worked for us for that. So I'm a bit sad to see the modern diesel engines getting axed as well. We will have to have a rethink going forward then I reckon. Hybrids don't appeal because of the extra weight over an ICE only car, plus a pure EV doesn't appeal either. So it might just be a case of getting a petrol only car instead I think in the future instead, and just suck up the more expensive fuel bill.
Good plan smile Btw, 30k in miles is a lot per year! Assume the majority is work related?

SDK

3,561 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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el romeral said:
Bit worrying that BMW appear a bit scared to reveal how this new one looks - I hope I am proved wrong.
It's just the usual drip teasers to build up hype, has happened the same way for decades

ahenners

621 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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Totally agree on the comments about dropping diesel. It's clear BMW are going all in on marketing the electric variants, seen loads of advertising for the i5 saloon but barely any mention of the other ICE 5 variants.

In the last gen of the 5, the diesel variants felt loads better than the petrol equivalents which in my eyes just didn't suit the nature of the car at all. 540i excepted of course. The 520i and 530i 2.0 petrols needed revving more to get meaningful progress, probably due to the lack of comparative peak torque compared to the diesel equivalents, and it ruins the laid-back effortless cruising nature of these barges.

The 20d and 30d engines are also ridiculously frugal and clean with all the dpf/adblue stuff etc. The 30d is close to perfection. Both will do 700 miles to a tank. The 530e had a tiny fuel tank on G30/G31, not sure if they fixed that in the G60. Unless you do little mileage, the diesels just make so much more sense.

Amanitin

544 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th October 2023
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kambites said:
Rightly or wrongly, diesel in the UK is pretty much dead.
I too think they should have made some more effort to keep it alive.
- less energy required to produce diesel
- thermally more efficient engines
always wondered why diesel hybrids never took off