RE: BMW 730d (E65) | Shed of the Week
RE: BMW 730d (E65) | Shed of the Week
Friday 20th October 2023

BMW 730d (E65) | Shed of the Week

Yes, the E65 comes with a fair amount of Bangle-inspired baggage. Thank goodness it's got a big boot, eh...


Shed has always been a sucker for a E65 Seven, even though he knows they’re not all that great to drive and by gum they’re ugly. We’ll get onto that later though. First, a bit of background.

The 2001 E65 was the first BMW to feature iDrive, which as the older ones among you will recall wasn’t greatly loved in its early days. Our 730d shed was first registered in the August of 2003, which was not only the biggest production year for the E65 with nearly 60,000 built out of the near-350,000 total sold over the eight-year run, but also the year when BMW tried to improve the iDrive system, so with any luck our car should have fewer iDrive glitches. The Shed-approved test for iDrive integrity, and a few other things actually, is to fiddle about with the knob for a minute at least. If it seems to work OK for that amount of time it’s probably all right.  

Anyway, the E65 was the first BMW to be signed off by the controversial notebook-toting design mould-breaker Chris Bangle. Which brings us without any further ado to the boot. Most would agree that almost anything else would probably have been easier on the eye than Bangle’s ‘flame surfacing’ design, the sign-off document of which should perhaps have had a flame rather than a board member’s signature passed over its surface. Its bulbosity was only partly toned down in the 2008-on gen-five 7 Series, so presumably somebody important at BMW liked it even if the rest of us didn’t. The upside was plenty of vertical stacking space, and would you just check out the girth of those bootlid supports. You only get that sort of thing in expensive cars.

What you also get with expensive cars is a much wider range of things to go expensively wrong. That’s why, whenever a big BM or Benz comes up on SOTW, you can hardly hear yourself think for the clattering of bargepoles being studiously readied for non-use. In the case of this E65, or E66 for the 5.5-inch longer long wheelbase car which this one isn’t, or the E67 armoured version or the hydrogen-fuelled and unsurprisingly incredibly rare 5.6mpg V12 E68, neither of which it is either, the list of problems potentially includes squeaky windows (failed regulator), self-disengaging parking brakes (failed actuator), and dodgy sealed-for-life gearboxes. Steering wheel wobble at around 35mph is a Seven-specific problem that might be just poor wheel alignment but which could be also something much more elusive and costly to sort out. Knocking noises from worn suspension is a generic big car issue that can and will affect old Sevens.

In this pre-’05 iteration the inline six M57 D30 TU single-turbo diesel chugged out 214hp. These earlier 3.0 diesels are generally regarded as more trustworthy than the later 228hp TU2 units but you still need to watch out for swirl flaps, MAF sensors, stretched cam chains, and turbos that might not last much beyond 125,000 miles. Our shed has done 166,000 so it would be nice to see some reassuring paperwork on that. If all is well you can expect an 8.0-second 0-62mph time, a top whack of 146mph and a combined fuel consumption figure of 33.2mpg. Annual vehicle tax is £395.

As an odd aside, BMW offered the 2005 LCI facelift as an option to owners of pre-2005 cars. We don’t know how much that cost but hardly anybody took it up, so presumably it wasn’t cheap. Nor are repair costs in 2023, but the useful thing about fearful maintenance bills is that they do keep the cost down on used purchases. As such you end up with a 730d that would have started at £45k+ in 2003 now costing you £1,995 or less, depending on the vendor’s keenness to see the back of it. 

If Shed was the owner, he would only ever see the back of it whenever he was loading it up with what he likes to call windfall fruit and veg from the gap in the hedge to next door’s farm. Car ugliness, for Shed, is for others to suffer. He wouldn't have to put up with it from the driver’s seat, especially as he’d be sitting a little lower in this one thanks to its collapsed side bolster. Clearly that seat has been slid across by many an ample buttock in its time. The presence of many seat-related 7 Series parts on the usual auction sites (belts, buckles, pre-tensioners and drive motors) suggests that this is another area of potential grief for owners. 

Viewed head on, it’s got that sad catfish look to it. The MOT is brand new and clean apart from a non-excessive oil leak, but Shed is willing to bet one half of this Friday’s cheese sandwich that ‘unspecified product on headlights’, or words to that effect, will be popping up as an advisory next October. Product on the lenses can be an issue for the postmistress if she forgets to take her specs off when she’s with Shed, but as he often tells her there very few things that a bit of spit can’t put right. 

In the course of his research Shed discovered that BMW sold the armoured E67s with a 7-year buyback guarantee whereby they would buy them back off the first owners and then punt them around on division two of the global despot market. Shed is currently investigating the E67’s resistance to attack by cast iron frying pan. 


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YellowCar

Original Poster:

151 posts

151 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Like the tour Montparnasse in Paris, the best thing about the view from the top is that you can't see the tour Montparnasse. Same goes for sitting in the driver's seat of this.
Some will love it (Bimmer innit) but I can't see the appeal.

Good write-up as usual, just not my thing...

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

78 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I really like the wheels. Are they off an X5 or something? The X cars got all the best wheel styles in early noughties BMWs.

Nothing else to say about the car, really. It's not awful, it's not great, it's obviously a lot of car for 2k but it won't actually be cheap.

V12GT

663 posts

119 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Enjoyed Shed's write up, but the car is hideous.

It's obviously had a hard life and I doubt that everything works. At least you can't see the boot when you are sitting in it.

Shed - do let us know if you find the E67 is resistant to cast iron frying pans - I suspect one being wielded by Mrs Shed has more force than a .50 cal!

Wren-went

1,062 posts

67 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Lovely car 20 years ago but would.i.want a 2 grand 730d now , no thanks I don't , last week's Volvo was a shed I'd happily of bought , this car definitely not .

sege

604 posts

251 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Banglebum!

Sandpit Steve

14,933 posts

103 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Couldn’t even be bothered to polish the headlights, probably a p/x that he just wants off his lot as quickly as possible. No thanks, quite likely to be something seriously wrong with it.

Rob 131 Sport

4,859 posts

81 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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After the 94 to 02 model, I’ve never really liked the 7 series. To me they’re just unnecessarily big. However, I do like the colour combination of this one.

can't remember

1,170 posts

157 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Couldn’t even be bothered to polish the headlights, probably a p/x that he just wants off his lot as quickly as possible. No thanks, quite likely to be something seriously wrong with it.
It would have taken half an hour max to sort and add value. To me, that suggests that a day after you buy it all the fault codes cleared last week will show up again.

Filibuster

3,403 posts

244 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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YellowCar said:
Like the tour Montparnasse in Paris, the best thing about the view from the top is that you can't see the tour Montparnasse. Same goes for sitting in the driver's seat of this.
Some will love it (Bimmer innit) but I can't see the appeal.

Good write-up as usual, just not my thing...
What a nice comment.

Although your comment ist an adoption of a quote by Guy de Maupassant, who is quoted with saying exactly the same thing about the Eiffel Tower back then.

Just saying so, because peoples perception can change, but I wagger to say this generation of 7 series will stay a Tour de Montparnasse, rather than becoming an Eiffel Tower.

richinlondon

886 posts

151 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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ohmygodweforgottoaddaboot! Pretty little thing compared to most of the current offerings though

TheRoteEngineer

124 posts

154 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I bitterly miss my E66 760li, it was an astonishing car that did 40k miles with little to shout about really. The water pump went, so I fixed that with a new one on the driveway for £60. The HPFPs failed and were £2500 EACH from BMW, but I fixed them for £8 by making a pair of diaphragms from improved material. The rest of the cost was on preventative or wear items, one set of discs and pads (discs were gargantuan), all new suspension arms and bushes, one set of tyres, and a replacement Logic7 amplifier.


Robertb

3,846 posts

267 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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A useful reminder that challenging-looking BMWs are not a new phenomenon.

Great write- up

Court_S

14,717 posts

206 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Not for me this week; looks like it’s had a hard life or been driven by a chunky monkey. I hate this era 7 series too, they’re just so god damn ugly and time hasn’t improved them at all.

There hasn’t been a good looking 7 since the E38.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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V12GT said:
Enjoyed Shed's write up, but the car is hideous.
That is exactly where I'm at too. I do like the 7 series don't get me wrong, but I just can't get past the way this generation looks though. I think Bangle was genuinely having a laugh with us all(or he was permanently half cut) with most of his designs for sure.

Blackpuddin

19,425 posts

234 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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TheRoteEngineer said:
I bitterly miss my E66 760li, it was an astonishing car that did 40k miles with little to shout about really. The water pump went, so I fixed that with a new one on the driveway for £60. The HPFPs failed and were £2500 EACH from BMW, but I fixed them for £8 by making a pair of diaphragms from improved material. The rest of the cost was on preventative or wear items, one set of discs and pads (discs were gargantuan), all new suspension arms and bushes, one set of tyres, and a replacement Logic7 amplifier.

That car's MOT expired last week, with a very good history up to now. Looks like a nice car.
This shed has a new MOT and a recent service. Looks like a decent gamble.

Cryssys

912 posts

67 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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That's a lot of shed for not a lot of money. As someone else pointed out though, keeping it running may prove rather more expensive.

Still, it's the essence of shedding.

helix402

7,913 posts

211 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Stretched M57 timing chains are a very rare phenomena. I’ve run one to over 250k without issue.

AC43

13,614 posts

237 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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I can't get past the boots on these. I used to think they looked like they had been fitted with the boot lid from an entirely different model. I've changed my mind; they don't even look like boot lids at all. More like one of those baby changing units you see on the wall of a restaurant loo.

pork911

7,365 posts

212 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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It's a workhorse, Dan.

86wasagoodyear

972 posts

125 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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TheRoteEngineer said:
The HPFPs failed and were £2500 EACH from BMW, but I fixed them for £8 by making a pair of diaphragms from improved material.
Impressive demand from BMW (ouch!) and an even more impressive fix from you, well played.
I'd love a Cinderella E38 7er, but not one of these ugly sisters.