RE: New Land Cruiser Se previews future design revamp
RE: New Land Cruiser Se previews future design revamp
Sunday 22nd October 2023

New Land Cruiser Se previews future design revamp

Toyota has only just launched a new Land Cruiser, but all-electric concept suggests there's much more to come


When Toyota launched the all-new Land Cruiser for 2024 over the summer, we lauded it for its retro-inspired look and for resolutely sticking to a diesel-powered, body-on-frame solution (if it ain’t broke etc). It seemed like a brave choice at the time - but now, with the reveal of the new Land Cruiser Se concept ahead of next week’s Tokyo show, it seems that the manufacturer has allowed itself ample room for a traditional approach by putting all its futuristic eggs in an electric show car basket instead. 

You’ll make your own mind up about the styling effort, but we’re inclined to advocate the design direction Toyota is apparently heading toward with its most famous full-size SUV. Sure, there’s a cliff face of a front end for your eyes to negotiate, but that’s hardly inconsistent with the established Land Cruiser aesthetic, and we rather like the odd design cue that specifically hark back to the model’s greatest hits - not least the dramatic kink in the window line. 

But clearly, the Se is also about ushering in a new era of Land Cruiser, one consistent with an all-new, zero-emission drivetrain and (also for the first time) a monocoque body that Toyota says will offer ‘highly responsive handling and confidence in tackling rough terrain.’ Aside from confirming that the concept is indeed a BEV, the manufacturer doesn’t go into any further detail on what its configuration of electric motors and batteries might look like, although mention of the car’s comparative ‘quietness’ in urban areas suggests that Toyota is serious about broadening ‘the Land Cruiser brand's appeal with a three-row SUV that caters to the world's diverse needs.’

That’s likely to mean a prominent shift upmarket for the seven-seater as any incoming production derivative seeks to compete head-on with an incoming generation of all-electric SUVs, an approach that probably accounts for a prominent whiff of Range Rover influence in the dapper styling. Certainly, the Se is unlikely to want for presence or interior space: Toyota indicates that it is more than five metres long and nearly two metres wide with a 3,050mm wheelbase. Expect to hear more about the grittier details when the car is officially unveiled alongside a host of other concepts - including the hotly anticipated FT-SE sports car - that are intended to look ahead to Toyota’s next-generation lineup. 


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Numeric

Original Poster:

1,499 posts

181 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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What is fascinating is a seeming split happening between certain vehicle groups. So after a brisk start the F150 lightning seems now to be struggling, while of course many are now switching to electric SUVs, but seemingly of the soft rather than hard use type.

A little off topic, but Cybertruck will also be interesting to watch as I suspect traditional pickup buyers may be averse but it could sell to people like me as an alternative to an SUV?

It will be interesting to see if Toyota can crack the hard use market.


anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Like that.

Mikebentley

8,642 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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I like the futuristic look.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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To me, this kind of aesthetic is what Land Rover products should be following.

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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First thoughts makes me think of a Kia

Dazed & Confused

209 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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The recently revealed retro looking Land Cruiser is really the Prado - they just drop that Prado name in the UK as we don’t get the full-fat version.

I guess this concept is a hint of the future design of the full-fat range, that will sit above the Prado.

So this isn’t really one design closely following another. They’re for different vehicles.

el romeral

2,189 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Can’t help thinking that any kind of grille, fake or otherwise, would look better than that solid slab of plastic.

swisstoni

24,037 posts

309 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Tolerable.

glazbagun

15,374 posts

227 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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el romeral said:
Can’t help thinking that any kind of grille, fake or otherwise, would look better than that solid slab of plastic.
Not if you can option a cow-catcher or a bullet-flecked armour plate.


Dg504

366 posts

193 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Velar at the back, Lexus at the front?

Dohnut

681 posts

76 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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BMW designers, take note.

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Dohnut said:
BMW designers, take note.
Whilst Kia want there design back


Evolved

4,079 posts

217 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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It looks nothing like their design.

tomsharp78

15 posts

76 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Kryten

Baddie

807 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Silvanus said:
Whilst Kia want there design back

To me that Kia looks more like a Korean Range Rover (in the bonnet shape) crossed with one of those Ioniq things.

As an owner of a 2005 Amazon, this LC concept isn’t bad, quite a bit better than the current full size LC I saw in Oz last year. Like the kink in the window line, but not the sliver of rear side window for the third row with the dip in the roof as well. Substance must come over style in these, it’s their raison d’être.

Robertb

3,867 posts

268 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I agree with the other posters- this is ok but doesn’t look like an evolution of the Land Cruiser. It could be any Chinese or Korean luxury SUV.

Rear three quarter visibility would be compromised too.

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Robertb said:
Rear three quarter visibility would be compromised too.
It already is in most new cars, and I can't see why it's being let to happen, even in long estates it's atrocious. Visibility in modern design feels like a massive afterthought, and it wasn't even that long ago when it was still fine.

Baddie

807 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Who needs visibility when you’ve got all those electronic nannies we love so much?

Which NCAP seems to mandate, at the cost of affordable purchases and rising insurance costs, while turning a blind eye to touch screen liability.

kevin the reving

29 posts

154 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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This looks gross !

I can’t think of an EV that looks good !
Why, because they are all designed from the inside out.

Years ago cars were designed from the outside in. Take Jaguar, Aston, Lotus, Triumph, Rover, etc. They were cars that guys were proud of, sat in their driveways and polished at weekends !

These cardboard box’s with large wheels are just lumps with different badges !

Years ago everyone knew it was a Jag even if all the badges were missing.

Come on designers, have a total rethink please.

philrs03

363 posts

126 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I can’t for the life of me get my head around the rabid push to electrify everything. The world geo-political situation is dire, most of the raw materials required for battery production are in contested or increasingly unfriendly (to the west) nations and the limitations FAR outweigh the benefits.

Especially in a Land Cruiser. It’s a genuine workhorse relied upon all across the Middle East and Africa, electrifying an actual utility vehicle (even a plush modern one) is just a ludicrous concept. Save to pander to all the wealthy, idealogical lunatics that live inside their city bubbles.