DVLA Reg on Retention
Discussion
I’m in the process of preparing my car for sale. I’ve got a private reg which I’ve applied online to please on retention. On all of my previous vehicles, it’s been done online without a problem. This time, they’ve asked me to send the V5 with a form by post. This delays things for me somewhat.
I’ve spoken to other people who have said they have had to do the same recently. I was just wondering why this could be?
I’ve spoken to other people who have said they have had to do the same recently. I was just wondering why this could be?
cuprabob said:
From what I've read, this seems to happen if the vehicle has not been continually taxed.
A gap with the car being neither taxed nor SORN seems to be the most common reason.DVLA said:
Eligibility
The vehicle must:
be registered with DVLA in the UK
be able to move under its own power
be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to inspect your vehicle
have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate
If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registration-numbers/take-private-number-offThe vehicle must:
be registered with DVLA in the UK
be able to move under its own power
be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to inspect your vehicle
have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate
If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs
I had this issue with a second hand car I'd bought. Prior to my ownership there had been a gap in the tax at some point, meaning whenever I wanted to remove a private plate, I had to do it via post.
However after I'd owned the car for 5 years, and therefore it had been continuously taxed for 5 years, I was then able to remove a private plate by using the online system again.
However after I'd owned the car for 5 years, and therefore it had been continuously taxed for 5 years, I was then able to remove a private plate by using the online system again.
Scrump said:
cuprabob said:
From what I've read, this seems to happen if the vehicle has not been continually taxed.
A gap with the car being neither taxed nor SORN seems to be the most common reason.DVLA said:
Eligibility
The vehicle must:
be registered with DVLA in the UK
be able to move under its own power
be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to inspect your vehicle
have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate
If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registration-numbers/take-private-number-offThe vehicle must:
be registered with DVLA in the UK
be able to move under its own power
be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to inspect your vehicle
have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate
If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs
I wonder if it also applies to vehicles that have been in the 'trade' before they were purchased as these wouldn't be taxed or sorn!
I had this many years ago after I moved house and forgot.
It was only for a couple of months, but in my case they wanted to physically see the car at the local office, where I also had the choice of paying a fine, OR the missing tax.
They no longer have local offices, so hopefully it’s just a formality, because it broke the online system.
It was only for a couple of months, but in my case they wanted to physically see the car at the local office, where I also had the choice of paying a fine, OR the missing tax.
They no longer have local offices, so hopefully it’s just a formality, because it broke the online system.
Had this with a plate I took off recently, on a car which has always been either taxed or SORN, but had switched between the two quite a lot as it tends to spend chunks of time SORNed in the garage in bits. It also had a gap in MOT history for same reason, but I don't imagine that contributes to this issue.
Long period untaxed was the reason behind my mother's recent plate retention request wasn't fulfilled, though it didn't help the original reasoning stated in the return letter was incorrectly that the car was recently sold into trade. Nothing a short call to the DVLA (!) couldn't sort but the initial misinformation was pretty confusing.
MustangGT said:
I have lost three VRNs this way. Why on earth do they not tell you when you apply to put the registration on, that you will need to post it off to remove it?
Simple bit of coding to carry out the same check they do when you apply to remove it.
How did you lose the number? Surely you just post off the form and get it removed?Simple bit of coding to carry out the same check they do when you apply to remove it.
I don't know if there is a way to check if the system will let you retain a number online without going through the whole transaction. I'm not sure at what point the message says you can't retain online.
I guess you could always try it and if you get as far as the payment screen just cancel the application. At least you will know if it works.
I guess you could always try it and if you get as far as the payment screen just cancel the application. At least you will know if it works.
It's frustrating. I bought a campervan last year and put my plate on retention online from my previous car no problem. When I decided to sell it, I went online as usual, and it directed me to download a form and send it off instead. I think it was a V317 form. My printer ink has dried up and as I work from home, I had to get my other half to print it at work which delayed things more. It took a week to get the paperwork back.
THE 80Y said:
I don't know if there is a way to check if the system will let you retain a number online without going through the whole transaction. I'm not sure at what point the message says you can't retain online.
I guess you could always try it and if you get as far as the payment screen just cancel the application. At least you will know if it works.
Yes just go online it won’t let you get far in this case, if it’s fine it allows you to proceed and pay I guess you could always try it and if you get as far as the payment screen just cancel the application. At least you will know if it works.
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