RE: Mini Cooper S (R53) | PH Private Area
RE: Mini Cooper S (R53) | PH Private Area
Monday 6th November 2023

Mini Cooper S (R53) | PH Private Area

Great spec, good ad, lots spent recently - and not much left to buy now...


It doesn’t seem that long ago (even though it actually was) that a Mini like the one seen here was the not-a-proper-Mini. It was too big to ever be a Mini kind of Mini - a Bini. How the tables have turned, eh? With the electric-only Cooper imminent and a monstrous new Countryman PHEV also on the horizon, it’s all too easy to look wistfully back on supercharged Minis of the early 2000s. 

For a number of reasons, actually. Firstly, this original Frank Stephenson vision of a 21st-century Mini still looks fantastic. There aren’t many cheap cars from 2001 that have aged this well (though no doubt this is when someone pipes up to say we need to wait 40 years to judge it). Helps too that the spec of this one is spot on, with the JCW wheels, white roof, and a smart shade of blue that a more knowledgeable Mini fan will know. Xenon lights keep it modern as well. 

The supercharged super Coopers also remain loved because they’re still such fun to drive, characterful powertrain complementing the fizzy handling just perfectly. A new Cooper S will have modes to contrive a sense of fun - these ones were in the mood all the time. And more power was easy to come by with a shorter supercharger pulley. 

Thirdly, the temptation of an original lingers because they’re still relatively affordable. Their popularity new (and one or two subsequent reliability concerns) has kept values pegged at a realistic level, GP aside. For a taste of old-school hot hatch fun (because that’s what the turn of the century surely is now), there’s a lot going for a Mini Cooper S. Especially with so many moving to much more expensive territory. 

If proof of diligent ownership is lots of money spent, then this R53 is the perfect example. Since the summer of 2021 it has benefitted from a new clutch and flywheel, braided brake hoses, a new timing chain, a Milltek resonated exhaust, a new water pump, fresh NGK spark plugs, a supercharger service (including a shorter pulley upgrade) and KW V1 coilovers. That’s far from an exhaustive list of the work, either, with plenty of receipts to back it up. There’s little more reassuring with old fast cars than lots of paperwork and good branded parts. 

Of course, it isn’t perfect. This Mini is 19 years and 120,000 miles old - it would be daft to expect anything less. The most significant issue to sort out would be a new heater matrix, which the seller suggests would be their next job. Otherwise, it’s little things like air-con (compressor and pipes work okay!), a wheel refurb and a small dent on the bonnet. Nothing that’s going to get in the way of a whole lot of fun. The Cooper S is for sale to make way for something larger, and offered at £3,500. It’s certainly possible to spend a whole lot more for a much less entertaining hot hatch. And as that new era kicks in, don’t be surprised if that hankering for the old ways grows even stronger. Let’s hope they’re still as affordable then…


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Twinair

Original Poster:

1,037 posts

172 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Cool little whip, had one, a ‘54 plate, in the orange colour…

I always yearned for it to be faster, then I bought an R56 JCW, and it was faster - but the R53, I felt was the more satisfying engine combo…

Cool thing - for not much dough = big tick…

Dombilano

1,451 posts

85 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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A prince amongst men. Seems good value til it goes bang

stevie777777

187 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Have my Astro black late model for 3 1/2 years - bought originally as a cheap local station car to replace much more expensive metal - but still love it even though have long since bought other cars
Recently passed 100k still going great - have spent ££ on super charge service and other bits but am really attached to it and body work is totally rust free so planning to keep as values will rise eventually for good examples

mooseracer

2,794 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Dombilano said:
A prince amongst men. Seems good value til it goes bang
Amusing, but the wrong version

86wasagoodyear

988 posts

126 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Add this to the 'Lots of car for the money' article elsewhere. Looks great.

DKS

1,916 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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+ Awesome super charger noise.
+ Cool retro looks
+ Can get good equipment levels (climate, heated seats, cruise, but hard to retro fit)

- Not fast (163BHP in what is a fairly heavy car)
- Very thirsty. Mid to low 20s in daily use (no doubt due to the first + above)
- Cheap plasticky interior
- Standard brakes are poor
- Stupidly hard uncomfortable rise
- Overly heavy, dead steering
- Awful gear change
- Special tool need for belt change
- Utterly useless small boot
- No spare and run flats

griffsomething

410 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Dombilano said:
A prince amongst men. Seems good value til it goes bang
Thought this generation of MINI had a reliable engine? Isn’t it the one after this that had the Peugeot engine and rightly/wrongly associated reputation for going pop?

Mr Dendrite

2,384 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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griffsomething said:
Dombilano said:
A prince amongst men. Seems good value til it goes bang
Thought this generation of MINI had a reliable engine? Isn’t it the one after this that had the Peugeot engine and rightly/wrongly associated reputation for going pop?
Had an 06 cooper S, it lunched its engine at five years old. Luckily I’d sold it at three and a half. Dealer told me that a lot of that model had done the same.

cpszx

165 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Mr Dendrite said:
Had an 06 cooper S, it lunched its engine at five years old. Luckily I’d sold it at three and a half. Dealer told me that a lot of that model had done the same.
what is the common failure?

georgeyboy12345

4,621 posts

65 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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I can’t seem to find the link to the actual ad. Am I being stupid?

Anyway, after seeing how much this featured in the “Glad to see the back of it” thread, that might be a good thing.

pb8g09

3,239 posts

99 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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DKS said:
+ Awesome super charger noise.
+ Cool retro looks
+ Can get good equipment levels (climate, heated seats, cruise, but hard to retro fit)

- Not fast (163BHP in what is a fairly heavy car)
- Very thirsty. Mid to low 20s in daily use (no doubt due to the first + above)
- Cheap plasticky interior
- Standard brakes are poor
- Stupidly hard uncomfortable rise
- Overly heavy, dead steering
- Awful gear change
- Special tool need for belt change
- Utterly useless small boot
- No spare and run flats
Agree on all the above. I had one on 100k miles and it seemed pointless fixing it because every time I did, something else niggly came up- here were some of mine:

- Remote key stopped working and set the alarm off if you didn’t put the key in the ignition within 20 seconds of unlocking door.
- glove box door would fall open on every bump, spilling its load on your passenger’s lap or the floor.
- rusted tailgate from water ingress
- headlight went and the model I had seemed to require a different headlight bulb to that of the model in the manual bizarrely, which obviously was more expensive,
- a CONSTANT oil leak. Left a puddle everywhere I parked it.
- steering wasn’t right, believe it was the pump.

Lasted around 6 months and then went bang. Whilst on a junction, at 30mph. Scrapped.

Bit like a crazy ex, glad to be rid of, still yearn for the saucy bit years later.

President Merkin

4,297 posts

49 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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cpszx said:
what is the common failure?
There is no common failure on the engines. The Tritec is over engineered, iron block, sohc, timing chain rather than a belt, they are durable.

Elsewhere the cars have short travel suspension that can lead to mushrooming strut towers. They also eat top mounts, the interiors rattle, headlinings sag, oem runflats are awful, nearly everyone ditches them, front calipers are underpowered but the stronger R56 ones bolt straight on and there are a couple of reliable rust spots around the rear lights & tailgate handle where water pools. Otherwise, they're lookers, a riot to drive, thirsty & easily tuned.

PSB1967

492 posts

186 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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georgeyboy12345 said:
I can’t seem to find the link to the actual ad. Am I being stupid?

Anyway, after seeing how much this featured in the “Glad to see the back of it” thread, that might be a good thing.
No you're not being Stupid, it's missing (surely the point of the feature)

GreatScott2016

2,528 posts

118 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Mr Dendrite said:
griffsomething said:
Dombilano said:
A prince amongst men. Seems good value til it goes bang
Thought this generation of MINI had a reliable engine? Isn’t it the one after this that had the Peugeot engine and rightly/wrongly associated reputation for going pop?
Had an 06 cooper S, it lunched its engine at five years old. Luckily I’d sold it at three and a half. Dealer told me that a lot of that model had done the same.
I bought a new 06 plate Cooper S and it never missed a heart beat. I do remember the firm ride and a notchy gear change, but overall, great memories smile

thefandango

10 posts

189 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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With that non-standard Milltek exhaust, I suspect the insurance will either not be forthcoming, or £££££££££.

It's a insurer's market, and premiums have increased more this year than ever. I know someone who's just had a 50% increase (with clean record) and no mods.

Insurance seems to be the forgotten part of the equation when considering pocket rockets like these Minis. Ditto with anything more extreme and a hint of non-standard. Unless of course you don't tell your insurance company and invalidate your insurance in the process.

So all that extra insurance cost for the very little benefit of a Milltek? I'm out, thanks.

yellowstreak

638 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Great cars and one I always turned my nose at when they were first released, because of all ones dressed in estate agent livery in London at the time. However they have grown on me.

Being pedantic - should the article be referring to a "smaller pulley" rather than a "shorter pulley"? Reading that made me twitch violently.

Firebobby

997 posts

69 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Good value for the money. I had a new one back in 2002, £16995 grey, black roof, chilli pack!! Those were the days eh? To be honest I was very disappointed with the performance, perhaps I expected more from 165bhp? Anyway I only had it 12 weeks, my first grandchild was born and we couldn't get her buggy in the boot so it had to go! Funny old world, that grandchild is now expecting her first!! I haven't aged as good as that mini..hahaha!!

Salamura

543 posts

111 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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I'm looking into one of those as a second car that also doubles up a s fun, weekend runabout. Was initially looking into R56, but the horror show that is the Prince engine completely turns me off it (the cylinder head, top end, and chain drive, the bits that actually tend to be the most problematic on the Prince, are BMW design, not Peugeot. Peugeot did the bottom end: block, pistons, crank etc., so stop blaming Peugeot wink ).

My one fear with the R53 (in addition to everything that can go wrong with a 20 year old car) is that I will be disappointed with the handling and steering. I had a Clio 172 for years and that car is my benchmark for every other hot hatchback. A question to those that have driven both: is this fear justified?

S600BSB

8,429 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Fabulous. Get it bought.

cerb4.5lee

44,752 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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I always remember having a bit of fun with one of these years ago in my mildly tuned S14a 200SX. I was blown away with how quick it was at the time for sure(and this was in a straight line, and my old F56 Cooper S always felt a bit limp to me on the straights for example). So these can definitely get a shift on I reckon. driving