RE: 2024 Volkswagen ID.7 | PH Review
RE: 2024 Volkswagen ID.7 | PH Review
Monday 13th November 2023

2024 Volkswagen ID.7 | PH Review

Flagship rear-drive EV offers plenty of space, limited pace


Unlikely as it seems the concept of the flagship saloon - a term that gets anyone of a certain age thinking of Vauxhall Senators and Rover 800s - is lasting into the electric age. Because that is, pretty much what the Volkswagen ID.7 is - the largest, grandest and most expensive of VW’s growing clan of EVs. 

Okay, not quite - the ID.7’s rear glass lifts along with its tailgate, meaning it is technically a hatchback. But the three-box design and sizeable dimensions, being nearly five metres long and 95mm bigger than the Arteon, clearly indicate its position at the top of the tree. Nor is VW unique in having such thoughts, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 and Lexus LF-ZC that were previewed at last month’s Tokyo motor show give welcome proof the future isn’t exclusively SUV-shaped. 

In Volkswagen’s case the new direction is being driven by aerodynamics as much as design purity. Being lower and sleeker makes the ID.7’s passage through the air easier, and the number the engineering team seem keenest to boast about is the very slippery 0.23 drag coefficient. That’s a large part of the reason Volkswagen is able to claim an impressive 384 miles of WLTP range for the rear-driven ID.7 with the 77kWh battery - with the prospect of a brawnier 86kWh version to follow which will have around 420 miles of Euro-range. 

You will probably have realised that putting range and battery capacity above performance in the story is a clear indication of where the launch-spec ID.7’s priorities lie - because this is definitely not one of those supercar-crushing EV powerhouses. The rear-drive version uses a single motor at the rear, VW’s more potent new AP550 unit, with this delivering peaks of 282hp and 401lb ft of torque. Working against a chunky 2,172kg this results in performance that is towards the blunt end of the segment.

Like most EVs, the ID.7 feels impressively brisk when launched hard, and the lack of any gearchange punctuation means that speed builds without delay. But although the 6.5-second 0-62mph time feels subjectively right, acceleration tails off quickly as the speed gets much past this. It would certainly take a long straight and lots of patience to confirm the presence of the 112mph speed limiter, and while the ID.7 stayed impressively quiet when cruising at a semi-brave Autoroute pace on the French test route, it is definitely no rocket ship. There will also be an all-wheel-driven version, but we will have to wait for power, performance and price information on that one.

Even in base form, the ID.7’s handling is pretty good. EVs aside, it’s a long time since Volkswagen created any rear-driven car, but the company’s engineers still clearly understand the principles. As in the company’s lesser ‘leccy offerings the steering has an artificial weight in lieu of any actual feedback, but it delivers proportionate front-end responses and the ID.7 feels stable when asked to change direction at higher speeds. 

Slower, tighter corners make the ID.7’s weight obvious, but there is plenty of grip and although this unsurprisingly tends to fade to understeer, it is possible to influence the rear axle’s attitude with the accelerator. Nannyish stability control stops anything as exciting as power sliding, but the cornering line can be tightened or slackened progressively and the ID.7 has a lightness to its responses which suits it well.

The car I drove on the launch had the DCC adaptive dampers which will likely be an option rather than standard fitment. As in the Golf, these offer no fewer than 15 separate stiffness settings in the Individual dynamic settings, from what felt a little like ‘70s Cadillac at one end to concrete dampers at the other. Regardless of the setting chosen, the dampers rapidly adapt to rougher surfaces or big chassis inputs - and sticking to the middle of the range, or using the regular Comfort or Sport modes, body control and comfort were both excellent.

Not that, despite that, the ID.7’s cabin feels particularly luxurious. The sparseness of the ID.3, ID.4 and ID.5 has been carried forwards with minimal switchgear and most functions are managed by touch-sensitive steering wheel panels and the central touchscreen. The ID.7 even persists with the cheaper cars’ irritating electric window switches on the driver’s door - there is a separate one for each side, but operating a back window requires a ‘REAR’ panel to be selected first. It’s a bit of penny-pinching that felt stingy in the base ID.3, and which feels positively Scrooge-like in what will be, in its cheapest form, a £55,570 car.

The ID.7’s position at the top of the clan earns it some plusher materials, leatherette dash panels, Alcantara seats and LED-backlit trim panels with tweakable colours. But there are still lots of dark, hard-feeling plastics lower down in the cabin, and the tiny instrument screen ahead of the driver - relaying just speed, charge and warning icons, looks like it belongs in something far cheaper. There is generous space front and rear - a six-footer could sit behind another without either needing to compromise on legroom - plus the option of an adaptive glass roof which can be electrically switched from clear to opaque.

Volkswagen spent lots of time pushing the advantages of the improved UI system, which now plays on the ID.7’s XL 15-inch touchscreen, but I was distinctly underwhelmed by it. The screen itself looks great, and now features a row of shortcut icons at the top to make it easier to move between different functions - plus an always-there climate band at the bottom so that turning on the seat heating is no longer an awkward three-stage hunt-and-peck. Heating and ventilation as well as audio functions are still controlled by an irritating touch-screen ledge beneath the screen, making it easy to give unintended inputs.

The supposedly smartened IDA voice assistant was still pretty dumb. IDA can now respond to prompts like “my hands are cold” - which turns on the steering wheel heating - and can list local restaurant options including menus. But it frequently activated without anything close to the “hello IDA” or “hello Volkswagen” trigger phrases being uttered, with a generally inept transcription of whatever was being said in the car then scrolling across the main screen.

The similarly enhanced ‘Travel Assist’ smart cruise control also had issues. This now incorporates an active speed management system that will automatically adjust velocity as limits change (yes, we’ve arrived at that particularly Dystopia). This managed most transitions cleanly, but struggled with the lower Autoroute wet conditions limit, sticking to what had become an illegal 130km/h even as the rain started to fall heavily. There is also a new active lane change function which supposedly allows the ID.7 to pass slower-moving traffic on a multi-lane highway; all the driver needs to do is indicate to order the transition. Again, this was more miss than hit, sometimes working as intended and sometimes completely refusing to, braking to sit behind the slower-moving vehicle with its indicator flashing, even when the road behind was completely clear.

At least one of the new smart systems worked seamlessly - the new augmented reality display. This is basically an XL head-up display able to project onto a much bigger part of the windscreen, meaning that it can show which way to go at a junction by applying a big arrow, or even showing which lane to be in well ahead of an Autoroute split. It’s a neat idea which worked well when asked to deal with the challenge of inner-city Marseilles. 

Like many modern EVs, the ID.7 feels like a car that drivers aren’t supposed to operate unless they have to. One that, in its default state, will sprinkle every journey with copious warnings about speed limits and wheel-nudging lane-keep prompts. Which is a shame, because the basics of chassis and controls are actually far slicker than the intrusive active systems that sit on top of them. There is a genuinely talented car under all the slap, but I suspect relatively few people will ever get the chance to realise that. 


Specification | Volkswagen ID.7

Engine: Electric motor, rear-wheel drive
Gearbox: Single-speed reduction, rear-wheel drive
Power: 282hp
Torque: 401lb ft
0-60mph: 6.5 seconds
Top speed: 112mph (limited)
Kerbweight: 2172kg
MPG: TBC
CO2 emissions: 0g/km
Price: £55,750 (Base price)

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SydneyBridge

Original Poster:

11,781 posts

188 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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No, no, no
Ugly outside and worse inside
No

leglessAlex

7,350 posts

171 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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That’s a shame, it sounds similar to the ‘driver assistance’ systems on my Honda e, which are also rubbish, and this is twice the price.

I was looking forward to the estate version of this hoping that they’d have swallowed their arrogance and put some physical HVAC controls in at least, but no.

It’s not an electric future that makes me worry, it’s one where every car has ‘smart’ systems installed, except really they only work vaguely well in the higher end cars, and all the rest are rubbish frown

Jon_S_Rally

4,460 posts

118 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Hardly a glowing review. I don't see the performance as an issue. It's range that we should be focusing on. We don't need every car to do 0-60 in 3 seconds, and 6.something is more than fast enough in reality.

It's sad that VW seem to have made such a mess of their user interfaces though as, when I had a MK7 Golf, the controls and touchscreen/infotainment were the best around in that type of car. The whole I.D. range sounds like a bit of a cock-up judging by most reviews, with desperate attempts to cut costs getting in the way of the user experience.

Still, I suppose it's not another SUV, so maybe that's one positive?

AddyT.

579 posts

123 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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£55k!! I can truly see VW’s electric car range leaving the brand dead in the water in the next few years. Bang average and all of them too expensive compared to their rivals which generally do a better job of the brief.

covmutley

3,368 posts

220 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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A salary sacrifice big blob for families.

Meh

V 02

2,420 posts

90 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I normally am a fan of EV’s but I can’t find a single reason why I would choose this over any of its competition.

Its just a big pile of meh. Just like a Passat then I guess.

MOOSECORTINA

253 posts

109 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Clearly not the future. Those who want them have now got them. Production of EV`s has been cut by manufacturers, battery production plant builds have been cancelled. Bring on clean fuels and hydrogen.

EmailAddress

14,640 posts

248 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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MOOSECORTINA said:
Clearly not the future. Those who want them have now got them. Production of EV`s has been cut by manufacturers, battery production plant builds have been cancelled. Bring on clean fuels and hydrogen.
Yawn.

heisthegaffer

4,298 posts

228 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I find it staggering about the electric window switches.

It is really that much cheaper to fit a toggle switch between front and rear, even the car sells 1m, 5m or 10m in numbers. Crazy.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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AddyT. said:
£55k!! I can truly see VW’s electric car range leaving the brand dead in the water in the next few years. Bang average and all of them too expensive compared to their rivals which generally do a better job of the brief.
It's as if they haven't looked at the wider world.

We have a plethora of new cars coming towards us and many already here, with prices dropping and growing innovation, yet VW just seem to think a repeat of the same strategy that sold millions of 1.8/1.9 Passat will work as people seek relatively dull but stable cars. But I don't think it will.

I just cannot imagine why I would bother to look at VW if I was selecting a new electric car.

HTP99

25,265 posts

170 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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heisthegaffer said:
I find it staggering about the electric window switches.

It is really that much cheaper to fit a toggle switch between front and rear, even the car sells 1m, 5m or 10m in numbers. Crazy.
I can't see it originally being done for cost cutting, I reckon it was done to be different and minimalist and for some strange reason they've just stuck with it.

Seems a very average review, seems VW still have a poor UI and they've also stuck with those awful touch sensitive buttons. It will no doubt sell better than it should to those who must have that badge.

therams

317 posts

215 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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£55k and I guess there will be options or a higher spec faster model for £70k

There’s a lot of choice in that price bracket. And it’s expensive. Buyers/leasers/salary sacrifice schemes are going have to really want one

Others by Tesla, Polestar, BMW have better tech, nicer interiors and better performance

I don’t know why you’d go for any of the new VW Electrics

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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The fact you can buy a hatch back or estate, not get forced into an SUV is refreshing. Also a focus on range and comfort rather than neck snapping 0-60 times is a real world bonus. Sounds like the ideal replacement for the Passat which was always a bit bland but a nice place to be if you were trudging up and down motorways all day then need a bit of space at the weekend for the family.
However, the ID infotainment is an absolute shocker. And it doesn’t sound like they’ve fixed it. Smacks of corporate arrogance not listening to customer feedback.
Will be difficult to not go Hyundai.

BlindedByTheLights

2,001 posts

127 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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£55k for an electric Passat CC! I can’t see where this sits in the market. I like the looks, I’d lease one, but no way at that price point

Twinair

1,035 posts

172 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Gosh, what a thoroughly awful thing.

cerb4.5lee

44,738 posts

210 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I'd much rather have a Senator 24v or a Rover 800 thanks. smile

Still Mulling

16,689 posts

207 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Why do manufacturers insist on continuing to highlight their interiors with red LEDs/lighting/labelling?

I tried out a used SEAT recently, and exited immediately as I felt like the car was surrounding me with aggression. It's supposed to be a family sofa, not something to incite violence; it just seems to me like such a basic detail to get wrong.

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
I'd much rather have a Senator 24v or a Rover 800 thanks. smile
Yes!
3.0 24v Senator or Vitesse turbo?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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At least it's not an SUV, but it's still awful, there is no way on earth i would ever own one of those.....what are VW doing i think they have lost the plot a bit.

Turbobanana

8,423 posts

231 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Article refers to it as a "three-box" design: looking at that side profile, I assume the third "box" is a matchbox.

Or maybe a box jellyfish.