Inflation and "the cost of parking crisis".
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Brighton has never been a cheap place to park but following recent increases Brighton & Hove Council now charges £38.20 to park for an overnight stay.
Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
The Selfish Gene said:
I think that's worse than London isn't it?
I've seen 28 quids for London, but I'm yet to see more than 30 personally.
Clearly the car haters are getting a good hold of Brighton! Does Khan live there or something?
It's the fun loving Green Party in Brighton. All the tofuists that work in London live there.I've seen 28 quids for London, but I'm yet to see more than 30 personally.
Clearly the car haters are getting a good hold of Brighton! Does Khan live there or something?
Panamax said:
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
We can spend tens of thousands of pounds on cars and yet object to £30?Parking costs £millions to build, from the taxpayers money or from private investors, all so we can store a private, oversized object and you wonder why parking costs £30?
There are alternatives - public transport, walking and cycling, Indeed you can park and ride in many places now for a *lot* less. I am not familiar with Brighton, but from memory of visiting a few times 15 years ago it is not a huge place to have to get around.
The Selfish Gene said:
vikingaero said:
It's the fun loving Green Party in Brighton. All the tofuists that work in London live there.
shame - it used to be a cool place to visit.The Greens hate motorists more than Khan or Oxford and the result has been the mess that they've left behind.
POIDH said:
Panamax said:
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
We can spend tens of thousands of pounds on cars and yet object to £30?Parking costs £millions to build, from the taxpayers money or from private investors, all so we can store a private, oversized object and you wonder why parking costs £30?
There are alternatives - public transport, walking and cycling, Indeed you can park and ride in many places now for a *lot* less. I am not familiar with Brighton, but from memory of visiting a few times 15 years ago it is not a huge place to have to get around.
Nothing wrong with private ownership.
Nothing oversized about it (please define over sized in your world)
Alternatives - public transport. Absolutely not. It's s
t, too expensive, doesn't work, doesn't take me door to door, and I have to share with humans I don't want to be near.Walking - bit far from London (where I live) to Brighton - thanks for the tip though.
Cycling - not unless I want to get killed by the retards I have to avoid everyday when driving one of the oversized cars or motorbikes
Sorry to be a
- but your response essentially is trying to tell a person how they should travel and comes across very condescending. I don't actually ever pay for parking (or very very rarely) as there is usually a way around it, especially on the motorbikes.
Panamax said:
Brighton has never been a cheap place to park but following recent increases Brighton & Hove Council now charges £38.20 to park for an overnight stay.
Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
With all that money you would think they could tackle the weed infestation and at least make it a more attractive place to visit. Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
I just did the sums and on the basis of overnight "9-24 hour" parking they'd rake in about £14,000 a year per space. But there's probably more daytime hourly parking by shoppers and visitors so on the basis of, say, 10 hours a day they'd be at £5.20 x 10 = £52 a day or £19,000 a year per space.
With 355 spaces in the car park that's a nice annual income of £7,000,000
With 355 spaces in the car park that's a nice annual income of £7,000,000
€50 minimum charge on some roads here in The Hague, though to be fair that's part of a trail to get visitors to park in carparks and leave the on street parking for residents. it's €30-€40 all day in the car parks.
A parking space came up for sale recently in the underbuilding carpark where I have a space, I think they were asking €40k
A parking space came up for sale recently in the underbuilding carpark where I have a space, I think they were asking €40k
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 29th November 14:15
POIDH said:
We can spend tens of thousands of pounds on cars and yet object to £30?
My runaround cost me £1500. 2% of the value, just to park it?Even if you spent 100k, 30 to park overnight is still objectively egregious.
POIDH said:
Parking costs £millions to build, from the taxpayers money or from private investors, all so we can store a private, oversized object and you wonder why parking costs £30?
£millions? Sure, a brand new multi storey.... how many councils are building those these days? A flat patch of tarmac or gravel, stick a ticket machine on it, it's profit making within a week. Private Investors...... These would be the *profit-making* businesses? That in other towns in costs me £10 to park overnight, some even £5.
You make it sound as if the council are doing drivers a favour, and don't cover their costs. They do... and then some. Moreover, it's rare a council single handedly funds a car park build by themselves.... Local growth funds, National Rail, BIDs.
POIDH said:
There are alternatives - public transport, walking and cycling, Indeed you can park and ride in many places now for a *lot* less. I am not familiar with Brighton, but from memory of visiting a few times 15 years ago it is not a huge place to have to get around.
Sure, if the council weren't cutting services AND increasing council tax AND increasing rates, it wouldn't be so bad. The public transport network 'in' Brighton is average. Buses forced off the road in favour of green electric/biofuel offerings, which are so expensive that the volume is too low to replicate the same service as before. Getting to Brighton via public transport? Unless you're coming from London way, forget it.Space isn't a premium in brighton. The sentiment here is brighton is a green constituency and labour/green lead council, who instead of making one want to leave the car behind, make it so unbearably difficult to bring the car, and don't offer an alternative.
At the end of the day, it's the local businesses that suffer most, as one takes their custom elsewhere if its that hard/costly. Those same buisiness rates have gone up again for....
The Selfish Gene said:
POIDH said:
Panamax said:
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
We can spend tens of thousands of pounds on cars and yet object to £30?Parking costs £millions to build, from the taxpayers money or from private investors, all so we can store a private, oversized object and you wonder why parking costs £30?
There are alternatives - public transport, walking and cycling, Indeed you can park and ride in many places now for a *lot* less. I am not familiar with Brighton, but from memory of visiting a few times 15 years ago it is not a huge place to have to get around.
Nothing wrong with private ownership.
Nothing oversized about it (please define over sized in your world)
Alternatives - public transport. Absolutely not. It's s
t, too expensive, doesn't work, doesn't take me door to door, and I have to share with humans I don't want to be near.Walking - bit far from London (where I live) to Brighton - thanks for the tip though.
Cycling - not unless I want to get killed by the retards I have to avoid everyday when driving one of the oversized cars or motorbikes
Sorry to be a
- but your response essentially is trying to tell a person how they should travel and comes across very condescending. I don't actually ever pay for parking (or very very rarely) as there is usually a way around it, especially on the motorbikes.
k off!'It doesn't help with your parking charges, but I opted to live in the country about 45 years ago, and only near a small town.
I haven't paid for parking for the last 20 years of that - there is so much free parking around here you simply don't need to.
I did live in the centre of Cambridge for a couple of years around 2002, but had an allocated space with my flat, so used a push bike or walked for all in town travel
I do actually sympathise regarding the over charging for parking, but suggest you vote with your feet and take your money and spend it elsewhere.
I haven't paid for parking for the last 20 years of that - there is so much free parking around here you simply don't need to.
I did live in the centre of Cambridge for a couple of years around 2002, but had an allocated space with my flat, so used a push bike or walked for all in town travel
I do actually sympathise regarding the over charging for parking, but suggest you vote with your feet and take your money and spend it elsewhere.
Panamax said:
Brighton has never been a cheap place to park but following recent increases Brighton & Hove Council now charges £38.20 to park for an overnight stay.
Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
Without wanting to be too much of a smartarse, 24 hour parking (£30.30) isn't the same as overnight parking (£13.80) ..Even at the "cheaper" Regency Square car park it's £30.30 to park overnight in an old, dripping concrete structure.
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
POIDH said:
Panamax said:
Welcome to Brighton. Leaving aside London, are parking charges in other cities now as aggressive as this?
We can spend tens of thousands of pounds on cars and yet object to £30?Parking costs £millions to build, from the taxpayers money or from private investors, all so we can store a private, oversized object and you wonder why parking costs £30?
There are alternatives - public transport, walking and cycling, Indeed you can park and ride in many places now for a *lot* less. I am not familiar with Brighton, but from memory of visiting a few times 15 years ago it is not a huge place to have to get around.
Building parking spaces doesn't cost any more in Brighton than it does in most parts of the country, yet most places don't charge £30+
There may be alternatives, but to visit driving is the easiest way for a lot of people. We are a family of 4 and would first have to travel into London, then back out of London to Brighton. That's after we've driven to the station and paid to park (£6 for the day!).
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