RE: Bucket list hot hatches | Six of the Best
RE: Bucket list hot hatches | Six of the Best
Saturday 9th December 2023

Bucket list hot hatches | Six of the Best

Everyone should own at least one great hot hatch in their lifetime - time to pick from a superb six...


Honda Civic Type R, 2002, 68k, £8,990

We probably didn’t realise it back then, but the early 2000s really were a great period for the humble hot hatch. Ford resurrected the RS badge in spectacular fashion with the Focus, the new Mini silenced many doubters with a supercharged (and super fun) Cooper S, and the Clio 172 was a more than worthy Williams follow-up. Plus, of course, there was the Civic Type R, the first offered in Britain and a different prospect even to the Accord and Integra Type Rs that had established the brand over here. It was more affordable, crucially - just £15,995 in 2001. And while some of the hardware wasn’t as advanced, the Type R still shrieked beyond 8,000rpm like little else. While remaining as practical and usable and reliable as any other Civic. Prices have picked up of late, though this early, low mileage, really smart EP3 still seems like decent value at £8,990.

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Mini GP, 2013, 14k, £24,995

A decade is a long time on planet Mini. In 2023, around £30k will get you a build slot for the new electric Cooper, as we prepare for a future with only two pedal Minis regardless of powertrain. In 2013, the second GP was what £30k of Mini looked like, complete with two seats, almost 220hp, Bilstein coilovers, semi-slicks and huge 330mm brake discs. Mirroring the template of the wonderful first GP, the GP2 moved the game on massively with comparable power: it was 19 seconds faster around the Nurburgring. It was a fantastic follow-up to a much-loved original and a cracking hot hatch in its own right. With the latest GP3 having not quite hit the spot in the same way, values are holding strong. This one is from near the end of the 2,000-unit run (#1763), and has covered just 14,000 miles. It’s for sale at £24,995.

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Peugeot 205 GTI 1.6, 1990, 77k, PH Auction

Obviously, this hero hit list wouldn’t be complete without a Peugeot GTI - the difficulty is knowing which to choose. 106, 306 and 309 can all make valid claims (and some of the later stuff isn’t half bad, either), but in the end, the 205 is the one that left an indelible mark on the world. Next year will mark 40 years of the Peugeot pocket rocket, and it remains as revered now as it ever did: pert good looks, exciting handling and effervescent engines see to that. This particular 205 is a 1.6, a PH auction lot that’ll go under the hammer a week into the big anniversary year. It’s a low mileage 1990 car that’s been with the current owner since 2009; stored in a heated garage when not in use and driven sparingly, it looks a corker. The guide price is £8,000-£12,000 - and apparently life begins at 40…

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Renaultsport Megane Cup-S, 2016, 22k, £16,990

There was a time not so long ago when no other mainstream car maker could get close to matching the driver appeal offered up by a Twingo, Clio, or Megane R.S. Those who placed a premium on feel, engagement, ability and performance could do no better than beating a path to Renaultsport's door. They were seldom the most stylish hatchbacks, inside or out, but that didn’t matter - they drove superbly, on road and track. The 275 Cup-S was a high point for the Megane, a run-out special in the best tradition: the price was dropped (to £24k), power boosted ever so slightly, and optional equipment previously reserved for the Trophy was made available. It was the perfect sign-off for a memorable hot hatch. This one had us at Liquid Yellow, but also benefits from a full service history, plus recent cambelt and dephaser pulley - it’s £16,990.

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VW Golf GTI Clubsport S, 2016, 10k, £41,995

A modern Golf GTI might not necessarily be on a shortlist of do-anything-and-everything-possible-to-own hot hatches, but then the Clubsport S wasn’t just any Golf GTI. It wasn’t much like a VW at all in fact, with its unashamed track focus, extremely limited production run and manual-only powertrain, and we should be very glad it exists. There would be no way a Golf like this, with its own front subframe and array of detail tweaks, would have made it past the bean counters after the Dieselgate fines. Though famous for its Nurburgring lap record of 7:47, the joy of the Clubsport S was how much fun it was on the road as well, more feelsome and interactive than a GTI without sacrificing (much) usability. All 150 UK cars were snapped up pronto at £33,995 - that hallowed rep means more than £40k is now required for one of the best.

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Ford Focus RS Red Edition, 2018, 8k, £36,999

Every single generation of Focus RS redefined what we could expect from a hot hatch - they were that seismically important. The first demonstrated that more than 200hp could be handled by the front wheels - the second showed that more than 300hp was possible. Having conquered FWD, Ford made the next Focus RS four-wheel drive, complete with its innovative (for the time) Drift Mode. It was exactly the kind of feature a fast Ford should pioneer, and it - along with many other traits - made for another Focus RS legend. This one is a Red Edition, which boasted the front limited-slip diff, Recaro seats and carbon trim of the standard Edition with some snazzy paint on top. Just 300 were made, and this one has only 8,000 miles from new, and is just about back down to its new price at £36,999. You might have heard by now that the best fast Fords hold onto their money quite well…

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Author
Discussion

GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,525 posts

118 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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If it were my cash, it would be the Mini and Ford all day long driving

MD835

32 posts

72 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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I appreciate this is ‘six of the best’ not the six best but feel the need to call out the BMW M135i/M140i (the proper 6 cylinder one that is…)

Phenomenal car that was incredible value for money if a bit of a hooligan (shame they didn’t bring the 6 cylinder xdrive version to the UK). Well built, reliable, economical when required (got 40mpg on long sensible runs) and all the performance you would ever need. A great all rounder. Regret letting ours go, but the M2 had to be done.



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mooseracer

2,793 posts

200 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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The Mégane looks good value amongst those.

I do love a hot hatch, am a serial owner and wouldn't turn down any of those. The one I'd most like to try would be the Golf to see for myself just how good it is.

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

77 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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The Golf and 205 for me. The golf is approaching new Type R money, but I’ve only heard good things.

911Spanker

3,669 posts

46 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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MD835 said:
I appreciate this is ‘six of the best’ not the six best but feel the need to call out the BMW M135i/M140i (the proper 6 cylinder one that is…)

Phenomenal car that was incredible value for money if a bit of a hooligan (shame they didn’t bring the 6 cylinder xdrive version to the UK). Well built, reliable, economical when required (got 40mpg on long sensible runs) and all the performance you would ever need. A great all rounder. Regret letting ours go, but the M2 had to be done.



Edited by MD835 on Saturday 9th December 05:40
They weren't a great drive out of the box though.

Has to be a Renaultsport car for me.

Rob 131 Sport

4,872 posts

82 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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A great list. It’s a shame the Fiat Strada Abarth aren’t more readily available as they are a superb hot hatch.

Kino8877

128 posts

196 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Owned the megane but thought numerous clios better - definitely one for sub-£9k budgets

martin12345

1,007 posts

119 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Golf for me - the fact that it looks much like a TDi adds to the appeal for me

Alfa Pete

473 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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That would be a tough choice for me.
I think I could exclude the Civic and possibly the RS but would find it hard to separate the others.

Dombilano

1,448 posts

85 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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911Spanker said:
MD835 said:
I appreciate this is ‘six of the best’ not the six best but feel the need to call out the BMW M135i/M140i (the proper 6 cylinder one that is…)

Phenomenal car that was incredible value for money if a bit of a hooligan (shame they didn’t bring the 6 cylinder xdrive version to the UK). Well built, reliable, economical when required (got 40mpg on long sensible runs) and all the performance you would ever need. A great all rounder. Regret letting ours go, but the M2 had to be done.



Edited by MD835 on Saturday 9th December 05:40
They weren't a great drive out of the box though.

Has to be a Renaultsport car for me.
There isn't a Focus RS built that drives better than a factory fresh M140i

ucb

1,112 posts

242 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Had two EP3 CTRs
Wouldn't have another except for donot parts

911Spanker

3,669 posts

46 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Dombilano said:
911Spanker said:
MD835 said:
I appreciate this is ‘six of the best’ not the six best but feel the need to call out the BMW M135i/M140i (the proper 6 cylinder one that is…)

Phenomenal car that was incredible value for money if a bit of a hooligan (shame they didn’t bring the 6 cylinder xdrive version to the UK). Well built, reliable, economical when required (got 40mpg on long sensible runs) and all the performance you would ever need. A great all rounder. Regret letting ours go, but the M2 had to be done.



Edited by MD835 on Saturday 9th December 05:40
They weren't a great drive out of the box though.

Has to be a Renaultsport car for me.
There isn't a Focus RS built that drives better than a factory fresh M140i
Is this a joke? A factory fresh M140 is a pile of poo. A Birds fresh M140 on the other hand...

howardhughes

1,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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MINI GP or Focus RS

howardhughes

1,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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martin12345 said:
Golf for me - the fact that it looks much like a TDi adds to the appeal for me
I like the Clubsport too, but If Im paying £41k for a one I want it to look £41k not like a Diesel...

pb8g09

3,232 posts

99 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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If I’m factoring in the prices, it’s the Megane for me- looks better value than the others.

But if I’m ignoring the prices, the Mini please- what a riot that would be on the right road. And heck I’d also have the Ford for family duties too.

Bill

58,701 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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yesI realise it's peak Golf and rare, but for £40+k I'd want it to look special too.

Robertb

3,861 posts

268 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Do unmolested mk 2 Golf GTi 16v fetch big money like 205s?

That was always the icon for me, probably my age.

I had an 8v ‘small bumper’ but always coveted the 16v.

I also really like the mk5.

Wab1974uk

1,397 posts

57 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Out of that list I'd have the Golf GTI Glubsport S.

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

77 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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911Spanker said:
Is this a joke? A factory fresh M140 is a pile of poo. A Birds fresh M140 on the other hand...
Agreed. Although the M140 is a capable car in its own right, it doesn’t hold a candle to some of a more elite hot hatches in my opinion.

1690cc

265 posts

46 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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IMO hot hatches are meant for fun rather than out and out dynamic prowess hence I would pick the R5 GT Turbo. The Pug was superior in most ways but the R5 was hilarious which counts for more IMO.
In modern hot hatches you are certainly travelling much faster but it's too sanitised and remote I been buying these cars for 40 years starting with a Mk1 GTI 1.6 and had several Renaults, VWs, Civics, Ford RS etc but the early receipe was the most fun.