RE: Wait list for new Range Rover Electric now open
RE: Wait list for new Range Rover Electric now open
Wednesday 13th December 2023

Wait list for new Range Rover Electric now open

Land Rover's first luxury EV has been a long time coming. The path to ownership starts here


Typically it’s hard to get excited about a new model that is expected to slip neatly into an existing lineup, but Land Rover is right to light the beacons early when it comes to the Range Rover Electric. Because while it’s going to look very much like the current L460 (despite its maker’s attempts to tease its ‘subtle cues’) the first fully electric Range Rover is clearly a significant moment. Its maker reckons it has filed more patents covering this derivative than any previous Range Rover. Which is precisely what you want on the cusp of a new era, right? 

Much about the model we know already. It will be built in the UK alongside the existing Range Rover and it will share the existing Modular Longitudinal Architecture. Naturally, Land Rover is targeting the ‘quietest and more refined Range Rover ever created’ because that’s what battery-electric power buys you (especially when you add in active noise cancelling, which is apparently what it has done). Quite how much power we still do not know, although the manufacturer has now confirmed that performance will be comparable with the current V8 model. Again, you’d expect that from something with electric motors driving both axles - no matter how much additional weight the batteries add. 

We don’t know anything yet about battery capacity either - or the always vexed question of range - though Land Rover is promising a ‘seamless electric ownership experience’ backed by an 800v architecture for rapid charging on public networks. The batteries and electric drive units themselves will be assembled at JLR’s newly announced Electric Propulsion Manufacturing Centre in Wolverhampton. Up to this point, the firm says it has spent a year in virtual development, paying particular attention to ‘front-end robustness, multi-body systems analysis that considers the demand on the chassis, and virtual wading at up to 31mph’.

With that complete, the development process has moved onto physical prototypes, which are already said to be taking part in a global testing programme adapted for the new EV. Land Rover reckons this will make it ‘one of the most rigorous engineering sign-off programmes ever’ - not least because the Range Rover Electric must prove itself in all conditions and every terrain just like its stablemates, including being able to wade through up to 850mm of water. 

“The magic ingredients that underpin the success of Range Rover remain unchanged: timeless, reductionist design, a serene cabin and go-anywhere capability – but now offered with zero tailpipe emissions,” noted Thomas Müller, JLR’s Product Engineering boss. “And as repeated throughout history, the Range Rover will continue to set the standard. The first of its type. An electric luxury SUV that can deliver on the Range Rover promise. A true global luxury product, as yet unseen in the industry.”

Big words, but of course they need to be. The world is very much watching. And Land Rover will be desperate to lay down a class-leading marker with its first effort. The firm is already confident that its ‘go-anywhere capability will ensure towing, wading and all-terrain technology surpass any other luxury electric SUV’ - but its global fanbase will expect that because those elements have been integral to the brand for 53 years. To succeed more broadly, the Range Rover Electric will also need to be an exceptional, do-it-all, money-no-object EV in every sense. No pressure, guys. 


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Mercutio

Original Poster:

334 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I am so conflicted about this electric Range Rover.

Bear with me for a second.

The part of me which loves these vehicles from a historical and design perspective is just happy they will continue into the imaginable future.

This is a great car. A Swiss army knife of a car, with little in the way of equal. It defines the segment it inhabits. No... the segment it arguably created.

And yet. The part of me which despises their now-ubiquity in rich suburbs and city centres, decked in monochrome colours, kitted out in 'black packs' and identikit privacy glass...

..that part of me just despairs. I despair at what could well be the first three tonne passenger car sold in the UK. The Mercedes EQS is 2810kg and it doesn't have anything like the off road gubbins the Range Rover will need.

You will have people driving something purely for image, which is perilously close to needing a different category on your licence. With a width that's coming close to a small shuttle bus. And some of those people, as evidenced from my time driving around where I live (suburban Surrey)t , will not have a clue how to pilot these three tonnes safely.

I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for this comment, because Pistonheads rightly is about choice. None of us potentially 'need' the cars we own, we drive them to enjoy the experience.

And I'll grant that the electric Range Rover will be one hell of a cosseting ride.

I just struggle with what an electric Range Rover becomes. How much more unlikely it will be that the brilliant luxury utility vehicle it once was from Classic to L322, has now become a jacked up personal limo that dominates city centres and is often driven terribly by people desperate to shout something to the world.


rassi

2,517 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Mercutio said:
I am so conflicted about this electric Range Rover.

Bear with me for a second.

The part of me which loves these vehicles from a historical and design perspective is just happy they will continue into the imaginable future.

This is a great car. A Swiss army knife of a car, with little in the way of equal. It defines the segment it inhabits. No... the segment it arguably created.

And yet. The part of me which despises their now-ubiquity in rich suburbs and city centres, decked in monochrome colours, kitted out in 'black packs' and identikit privacy glass...

..that part of me just despairs. I despair at what could well be the first three tonne passenger car sold in the UK. The Mercedes EQS is 2810kg and it doesn't have anything like the off road gubbins the Range Rover will need.

You will have people driving something purely for image, which is perilously close to needing a different category on your licence. With a width that's coming close to a small shuttle bus. And some of those people, as evidenced from my time driving around where I live (suburban Surrey)t , will not have a clue how to pilot these three tonnes safely.

I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for this comment, because Pistonheads rightly is about choice. None of us potentially 'need' the cars we own, we drive them to enjoy the experience.

And I'll grant that the electric Range Rover will be one hell of a cosseting ride.

I just struggle with what an electric Range Rover becomes. How much more unlikely it will be that the brilliant luxury utility vehicle it once was from Classic to L322, has now become a jacked up personal limo that dominates city centres and is often driven terribly by people desperate to shout something to the world.
So, have you ordered yours yet?

highway

2,719 posts

290 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Part of JLR’s current problem would seem to be lots of people ignoring any ‘wait list’ and taking what they want off someone else’s driveway.

lotus116tornado

340 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Mercutio said:
I am so conflicted about this electric Range Rover.

Bear with me for a second.

The part of me which loves these vehicles from a historical and design perspective is just happy they will continue into the imaginable future.

This is a great car. A Swiss army knife of a car, with little in the way of equal. It defines the segment it inhabits. No... the segment it arguably created.

And yet. The part of me which despises their now-ubiquity in rich suburbs and city centres, decked in monochrome colours, kitted out in 'black packs' and identikit privacy glass...

..that part of me just despairs. I despair at what could well be the first three tonne passenger car sold in the UK. The Mercedes EQS is 2810kg and it doesn't have anything like the off road gubbins the Range Rover will need.

You will have people driving something purely for image, which is perilously close to needing a different category on your licence. With a width that's coming close to a small shuttle bus. And some of those people, as evidenced from my time driving around where I live (suburban Surrey)t , will not have a clue how to pilot these three tonnes safely.

I'm sure I'll get shot down in flames for this comment, because Pistonheads rightly is about choice. None of us potentially 'need' the cars we own, we drive them to enjoy the experience.

And I'll grant that the electric Range Rover will be one hell of a cosseting ride.

I just struggle with what an electric Range Rover becomes. How much more unlikely it will be that the brilliant luxury utility vehicle it once was from Classic to L322, has now become a jacked up personal limo that dominates city centres and is often driven terribly by people desperate to shout something to the world.
The new RR Spectre can be ordered with a couple of extras taking the already heavy 2975kg weight over the 3 tonne threshold.

BlackRumple

21 posts

57 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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highway said:
Part of JLR’s current problem would seem to be lots of people ignoring any ‘wait list’ and taking what they want off someone else’s driveway.
Exactly my thoughts. No mention of any new security upgrades for the electric model. Waiting list for Stolen to order vehicles will be growing at a faster rate i suspect.

Whats the guess on how much one of these will be to insure if anyone can get one insured? Cocktail of the 2 most expensive factors here. Most stolen vehicle and being an EV prohibitively expensive to repair.

MOOSECORTINA

253 posts

109 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Supercharged V8 for me any day.

TGTiff

498 posts

214 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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If I had the money to buy one....
I wouldn't even think of doing so.

Mouse Rat

2,098 posts

122 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I'm all for a range rover with an EV drive train.
But a smaller 30kwh battery pack with a range extender would make sense.

dxg

10,748 posts

290 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Interesting marketing phraseology.

"Join the wait list" certainly implies lots of pent-up demand. Quite different to "Place your order." I guess delivery times will reveal the truth...

cib24

1,127 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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I am really curious to see how heavy this car is going to be. The P510e HSE has been weighed by a few journalists (Harry’s Garage and Autocar or AutoExpress) and it was a shocking 3,000-3,100kg. The electric is going to be over 3,500 or even 4,000kg?

Will you need a special license in the UK and Europe to drive it and will it be illegal to drive it on certain roads or bridges?

jhonn

1,697 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Mercutio said:
..good stuff..
Great post - pretty much what I was thinking.

Not so much an SV model, more VS (for virtue signalling).

jwwbowe

705 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Why buy or rent one when you could just borrow one from a nice financially wealthy person, I hear they are replacing electric scooters in city centres. No need to spend money on insurance, the insurance companies have sorted that by charging an astronomical upfront premium to the original keeper. Don’t worry about returning it either, a nice chap will get in contact to take it off your hands and dismantle it to check it is all in good order. Sometimes after disassembly defective parts are identified, refurbished and resold to reduce the carbon footprint of continuous production of new parts. It’s all part of LRs carbon reduction strategy.

In all seriousness I’m sure it is a lovely ride, probably the most suited LR to electric power. I’d still have a LC300 over it, even if that has become a bit chincy too.

B10

1,378 posts

297 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Surely it is 'waiting list' not 'wait list'? Otherwise please put all data in US imperial units please for consistency.

Pflanzgarten

7,614 posts

55 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Difficult to be the ultimate Swiss Army knife of a car when one of its jobs is to drive the family down to Chamonix for a couple of weeks skiing every winter.


yme402

657 posts

132 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Will sell like hot cakes so good luck to JLR as it will mean more jobs in UK.
Lovely to look at and drive, but my money would still be on a Land Cruiser.

Wills2

29,653 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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dxg said:
Interesting marketing phraseology.

"Join the wait list" certainly implies lots of pent-up demand. Quite different to "Place your order." I guess delivery times will reveal the truth...
Fake scarcity is such a scam but it appears to be the only tool left in the marketeers box.




satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Does anyone at PH even have any GCSEs? Any in English? No? How about those O levels? Still no?

dpop

297 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Too soon for a joke about the spare parts waiting list opening as well?

Essarell

2,629 posts

84 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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Interesting re the wading depth, with no air intake to drown surely this new RR could effectively run underwater?

Maybe star in the next Bond film, a homage to the Lotus Esprit?

In all seriousness, it’s a RR so it’ll be lovely to look at and fantastic to drive.

WY86

1,555 posts

57 months

Wednesday 13th December 2023
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jwwbowe said:
Why buy or rent one when you could just borrow one from a nice financially wealthy person, I hear they are replacing electric scooters in city centres. No need to spend money on insurance, the insurance companies have sorted that by charging an astronomical upfront premium to the original keeper. Don’t worry about returning it either, a nice chap will get in contact to take it off your hands and dismantle it to check it is all in good order. Sometimes after disassembly defective parts are identified, refurbished and resold to reduce the carbon footprint of continuous production of new parts. It’s all part of LRs carbon reduction strategy.

In all seriousness I’m sure it is a lovely ride, probably the most suited LR to electric power. I’d still have a LC300 over it, even if that has become a bit chincy too.
These will be safe as i can’t imagine central Africa has much infrastructure or desire for an EV range rover.