Named driver insurance question
Named driver insurance question
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ChrisnChris

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

252 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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We have friends coming over from the USA for about 3 weeks at Christmas.
They are in their 40s
They want to do a bit of touring around.
I would like to offer them my car instead of them hiring one.
My own company MOJA have refused their cover, no reason is given.
I have tried gocompare and compare the market by getting a completely new quote but there isn't an option for adding a driver who doesn't have a UK postcode.

I'm getting a bit stuck, any advice from any insurance gurus please. thumbup

Sebring440

3,216 posts

126 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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ChrisnChris said:
I'm getting a bit stuck,
Seriously, let them hire a car.

You're letting yourself in for a ton of grief. US drivers in the UK? Presumably your car has an automatic gearbox?



MattsCar

2,439 posts

135 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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If you add them to your insurance as a named driver and they have a bump, then I believe that it is something you would have to declare in the future as it is your policy. Something to consider.

Not saying they are bad drivers, but being on the other side of the road coupled with the unfamiliarity of the roads, would increase the chances greatly

NFT

1,324 posts

52 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Could they get a temp insurance policy on a UK car?

Believe a couple I met did this but wasn't that interested at the time, just know they borrowed their extended family's car in UK and got a temporary policy just in case, so UK family wouldn't be affected by any claim they'd make.

Pica-Pica

16,612 posts

114 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Sebring440 said:
ChrisnChris said:
I'm getting a bit stuck,
Seriously, let them hire a car.

You're letting yourself in for a ton of grief. US drivers in the UK? Presumably your car has an automatic gearbox?
Totally agree. (But the autobox is not the issue here)

ChrisnChris

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Thanks for the replies, to clarify.

They were both born in the UK and passed UK tests, always drove manual here. They now live in US. They have US licences as well as still current UK.
Car hire for the size they need is ~£2.5k They do normally hire but the cost has increased massively.

The simplest way it seems, apart from hiring, is to cancel my current insurance and take out a new policy with them as named drivers. The cost of this is about £300 - £400 including any cancellation fees. They're happy to pay this as well as any increased premiums in case of a "bump" (this remains to be seen of course, in the actual event)

I had to speak with an actual human to get clarification, the chap from A Plan was very helpful.

Temporary insurance on a car they don't own is almost impossible, you can't have 2 policies on one car is my understanding.

Thanks for all the input smile

Jules Sunley

5,455 posts

123 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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This is pistonheads. Surely the answer is to buy a shed estate and insure then on that having told the wife you will sell it again after they leave but then keep it as a tip/DIY car?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,103 posts

180 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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ChrisnChris said:
you can't have 2 policies on one car is my understanding.
That's nonsense.

sherbertdip

1,288 posts

149 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
ChrisnChris said:
you can't have 2 policies on one car is my understanding.
That's nonsense.
You can, but come to a claim and it could pose problems as both insurance companies have an interest.

NFT

1,324 posts

52 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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ChrisnChris said:
Thanks for the replies, to clarify.

They were both born in the UK and passed UK tests, always drove manual here. They now live in US. They have US licences as well as still current UK.
Car hire for the size they need is ~£2.5k They do normally hire but the cost has increased massively.

The simplest way it seems, apart from hiring, is to cancel my current insurance and take out a new policy with them as named drivers. The cost of this is about £300 - £400 including any cancellation fees. They're happy to pay this as well as any increased premiums in case of a "bump" (this remains to be seen of course, in the actual event)

I had to speak with an actual human to get clarification, the chap from A Plan was very helpful.

Temporary insurance on a car they don't own is almost impossible, you can't have 2 policies on one car is my understanding.

Thanks for all the input smile
You should be able to add a named driver mid policy.

As for 2 policy's, it's not uncommon (esp since they started dropping "other cars" cover) or illegal, people have to insure to drive by law, often two policy's when someone is planning to by a car, temp & short term cover policy's are designed to allow you to drive a car when borrowing it but no law prevents a full policy to anyone borrowing a car (you have to be honest about not being RK in fact), any number of other circumstances will leave 2 policy's at one time.

My friends in laws for example borrow their car visiting around Xmas, they insure it themselves and last year claimed without any fuss when hit a wall due to icy conditions and never affected my friends policy/no claims. They got stuck paying the policy instead of canceling because claimed in fact.

Perhaps insurers just don't like it.

R6tty

730 posts

45 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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There are companies out there that do temporary cover with a stand alone policy. I used to lend my car out to a mate and he used to insure it. And as they have UK licences (along with their US licensessmile) I don't see the difficulty.

QJumper

3,238 posts

56 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Some years ago I had the same situation with my brother. UK and US licence, but livinng in the US and coming for a visit. At the time Admiral were fine about adding him as a driver.

Alickadoo

3,439 posts

53 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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ChrisnChris said:
Thanks for the replies, to clarify.

They were both born in the UK and passed UK tests, always drove manual here. They now live in US. They have US licences as well as still current UK.
Car hire for the size they need is ~£2.5k They do normally hire but the cost has increased massively.

The simplest way it seems, apart from hiring, is to cancel my current insurance and take out a new policy with them as named drivers. The cost of this is about £300 - £400 including any cancellation fees. They're happy to pay this as well as any increased premiums in case of a "bump" (this remains to be seen of course, in the actual event)

I had to speak with an actual human to get clarification, the chap from A Plan was very helpful.

Temporary insurance on a car they don't own is almost impossible, you can't have 2 policies on one car is my understanding.

Thanks for all the input smile
Just tell them - "We tried, but the insurance company said no."

Don't get involved.

Aunty Pasty

786 posts

68 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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I recently leant my car out to a friend. I bought temporary car insurance for them. It was about £90 for 10 days and totally separate from my own insurance. As they already have a UK licence, it should be straight forward.

ChrisnChris

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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OK, I've heard back from Sterling, they will do a separate policy from mine for the duration of the visit.
Isn't it amazing that you can get completely different advice from so called "experts"

So that's settled I think.
The policy will cost ~£260 for the 3 weeks with an excess of £950 which can be waived for ~£50
They will both be insured to drive.

So for ~£100 a week and no impact on my policy if anything happens, I think that's a result.

As for the car in question, it's a 15 year old Volvo estate, used and abused, so it's already an old snotter biglaughxmas