RE: BMW 323i LE (E21) | Spotted
RE: BMW 323i LE (E21) | Spotted
Monday 12th February 2024

BMW 323i LE (E21) | Spotted

The E21 is the beginning of the 3 Series story; there won't be many left better than this


The small BMW saloon as we know it will change very drastically pretty soon. The 3 Series doesn’t look long for this world, set to be replaced by something inspired by the Neue Klasse concept. Perhaps it will keep the 3 Series name, though whatever happens on that front it’s going to be a very different BMW four-door: electric, futuristic, bristling with autonomous tech and AI assistance. It’s not just BMW, of course, going through this transformation, but we’ve known a 3 Series for so long it’ll take some adjusting to. 

Perhaps the last time the small BMW experienced such an overhaul was when the very first 3 Series arrived. And even that probably wasn’t as seismic. The E21 generation replaced the BMW 02s in the mid-70s, with a fresh new look (designed by Paul Bracq), the availability of straight sixes in a small BMW for the first time, and a naming convention that exists to this day. Imagine BMW without a 3 Series - it’s not really BMW at all. The 02 was also a compact saloon, of course, but with the strange Touring body also available and only four cylinder engines, it’s not quite the same thing. The E21 is genesis. 

With the last ones having been made at the end of 1983, every single example of the first 3 Series is now more than 40 years old. Which would make them ULEZ exempt, for those feeling brave. Today they’re hard to find; rust was an issue, as was the snap oversteer of the semi-trailing arm rear suspension. Many E21s will have ended up backwards into hard objects at some point. However, the same could be said for E30s, and a lot more of those remain on the roads. Perhaps the fondness for the later car was more entrenched earlier on, securing the future of a few. It feels like E21s have only become properly appreciated more recently, perhaps because it didn’t boast an M3. That’s only a hunch, though. 

For this generation, the 323i was the most potent engine option, with 145hp from a 2.3-litre straight six. Doesn’t sound much in the days of a 510hp M3, but an E21 will have only weighed a tonne or so, so it was more than enough in the late 1970s for proper sports saloon performance. An Escort RS2000 only made 110hp, for example. As the flagship, the 323i was deemed the right model for an E21 end-of-the-line special, of which this is one. The 323i LE was introduced right at the end of the production run (this is a 1982 example), was always very rare and as such has been prized by fans over the past 40 years. It’s believed there were only around 170 UK cars, one for each dealer.

The Limited Edition was marked out with the two-tone paint (Ascot Grey Metallic over Graphite Grey), the BBS wheels, a deeper front spoiler and a swankier interior. In traditional BMW fashion, the LE was a modest upgrade over the standard 323. But if you knew, you knew. This one is said to benefit from a limited-slip diff and sports suspension, too. For those that want a raw, old fashioned, unassisted BMW experience, this ought to do it just nicely. 

This LE is being sold after 12 years with the current owner; it was subject to an extensive restoration over three years to get it to this condition, and the results really do speak for themselves. This must be as close to flawless as it’s possible to get a 42-year-old car with a six-figure mileage, both inside and out. From engine bay to boot (and perfect toolkit), it’s an absolutely stunning E21. 

It says a lot that there are just two 3 Series like this on PH currently, the other being an even rarer Alpina. Compare that to the 28 E30s (not including M3s) for how stark the gap is. Those that want an E21 are going to have to search harder and potentially wait longer than E30 buyers. The values are roughly aligned, however, if still a lot for those who can remember old  BMWs basically being given away. This LE is £30k, and there are more expensive E30s before even getting to the S14-engined homologation specials. Plenty are above £20,000, so the best really are going to cost. But the past never looks quite so appealing as when worrying about the future; good job then, the E21 has always been a stunner. Whatever the Neue Klasse becomes, the first 3 Series will always be a gem.


SPECIFICATION | BMW 323i (E21)

Engine: 2,315cc straight-six
Transmission: Five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 145@5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 140@4,500rpm
MPG: 31.5 (an average using figures from e21.net)
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1982
Recorded miles: 112,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £29,995

See the original advert here

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Hairymonster

Original Poster:

1,678 posts

135 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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That really is a lovely thing.

skylarking808

1,219 posts

116 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Yes please.

The 323i is probably responsible for my liking of the brand. Seeing an orange one in a small Devon town in 1983? was a revalation.
I was into Ford Escorts at the time.....

Never driven one unfortunately, but they are supposed to be a lot of fun.
Will be a sad day if/when the 3 series goes.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Yup, fantastic.

Earthdweller

19,423 posts

156 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Lovely lovely thing

As a 16 year old in 1982 I lusted after one of these almost as much as a girl called Jane in my 5th form class , the double headlights on the BMW were a close run to the double bumps on Jane’s chest

Fortunately Jane was obtainable for me unlike the BMW

Ah memories

(Nearly married Jane, who if I had I’m sure would have cost me far more than £29k)

smile

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Absolutely lovely- a far cry to what the marque produces now.

Earthdweller said:
Lovely lovely thing

As a 16 year old in 1982 I lusted after one of these almost as much as a girl called Jane in my 5th form class , the double headlights on the BMW were a close run to the double bumps on Jane’s chest

Fortunately Jane was obtainable for me unlike the BMW

Ah memories

(Nearly married Jane, who if I had I’m sure would have cost me far more than £29k)

smile
Why didnt you marry Jane?

Earthdweller

19,423 posts

156 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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TREMAiNE said:
Why didnt you marry Jane?
At 20 she wanted to get married and have babies .. I wanted to see the world .. I was just too young for that

Both got away smile

pb8g09

3,229 posts

99 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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What an absolute belter. So much want.


GreatScott2016

2,522 posts

118 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Lovely era for BMW. I remember a neighbour having a 325i, and it was a glorious thing, so jealous. This 323 does look very tidy though at first glance cool

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Lovely thing. Remember my uncle Sids very fondly. Quite glamorous in 1979! Grandpa also had a 2002 a couple of years before and hence my start of bmw fanboyery. Recently cured by current styling and weight issues admittedly.

Anyway quick question - why the oatmeal coloured carpets when everything else is a sea of blue - even the bootfloor?

Augustus Windsock

3,793 posts

185 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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I was about 21/22 and working in banking when I bought an X-reg 323i, very light green metallic with cloth / velour seats.
Apart from it feeling devilishly quick compared to my Escort Mexico of the time was that it was quite tail-happy, and that it cost me £365 Third Party Fire & Theft, so £1 a day just to insure it.
I replaced it with a brand new XR2, which although nice, nd my first new car, was never as good a drive.
However, I reckon the asking price of this follows the current ‘bonkers’ market trend of thinking of a price and add 25%….

MissChief

7,989 posts

198 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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pb8g09 said:
What an absolute belter. So much want.
Jane or the BMW?

Turbobanana

8,399 posts

231 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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While I understand some of the hype, only nostalgia would make me want one nowadays. I regularly used to get a lift home in one, way too fast and with Springsteen blaring out of the speakers, when I was about 15. Six cylinders meant it was about the smoothest thing I'd ridden in up to that point.

Fast-forward about 15 years and I bought an orange one from auction for £325. That thing was rough, handled like a rudderless ship on the high seas and - with the benefit of more experience - felt very austere and basic inside.

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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The E21 323i was a great car, a lovely balance of power to grip available (on the tyres available at the time at least). I found the perfect balance when I had a dog-leg 5 speed close ratio gearbox and LSD fitted to mine, I tried a C1 2.3 which included a power bump to 170bhp along with the Alpina handling pack, however felt the standard car had lower outright grip limits and was thus more fun and exploitable on the road. Moved it on to make way for an E24 635csi with the same gearbox/diff combination which was similarly good fun, though the E21 is always fondly remembered - a lot of money for this car, though i'll bet not so crazy if you were to calculate the cost of restoring one.

BenS94

3,245 posts

54 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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A friend had an E21 LE years ago, he sold in 1999 to buy a brand new A4 Avant he still has today. His was supplied by Lloyd Motors, I wonder if this is the one...

ETA: Turns out memory failed me, his was a 320!

Edited by BenS94 on Monday 12th February 14:24

BenS94

3,245 posts

54 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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I however don't understand folk who spend loads getting the car perfect.... then fit cheap stty tyres.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,878 posts

160 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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A E21 323i was one of the first cars I ever drove. Sounded fantastic. I was smitten by the E21/30, the E24 (6 series) and E28 (5) and then pretty much disliked everything that came after.

WPA

14,694 posts

144 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Lovely car but I struggle with the price, no doubt someone will pay it but seems expensive to me.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Nice cars but I really don't think this is quite the mint example the price is commanding.

Corrosion around the headlights, the corroded sills blasted over, the rotten rubber exhaust band, the black diff cover looks like they just shot some stone chip cover over the bottom. It isn't a bad example, far, far from it, but I wouldn't call it mint, and for £30k.....that's a steep starting price in my opinion.

911Spanker

3,664 posts

46 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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WPA said:
Lovely car but I struggle with the price, no doubt someone will pay it but seems expensive to me.
Where would you value it?

Dr S

5,145 posts

256 months

Monday 12th February 2024
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Very pretty car. Contrats to the current owner on the restoration effort