The AA not helping
The AA not helping
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Simon Bags

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674 posts

205 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Afternoon Everyone. Quick one. My Pub Landlady was telling me a story about an elderly chap who the other day had mis-judged a parking space outside the Pub and had accidently got his front wheels stuck on a grass verge.

He came into the Pub, obviously a bit upset. She gave him a coffee and asked if he was a Member of the AA? He said he was and so she gave them a call on his behalf.

They told her that due to the nature of the problem they were unable to help unless they were told the details of his Motor Insurance Policy? He didn't have them to hand.

Thankfully a couple of lads overheard and got him free within a couple of minutes.

AA not helping without Insurance details? Thoughts?

Simon.

smokey mow

1,404 posts

230 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Seems reasonable.

The AA provide a mechanical breakdown service. His car hadn’t broken down so they had no obligation to attend, in agreeing to come out they were looking to recover their costs from his insurer.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 26th February 12:17

bigandclever

14,369 posts

268 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Simon Bags said:
AA not helping without Insurance details? Thoughts?.
No idea how it works in practice but valid insurance (and MOT and VED) are requirements for breakdown cover.

vikingaero

13,314 posts

199 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Yep. Breakdown cover service not all scenario collection service.

Smint

3,618 posts

65 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Thoughts? thank goodness old school attitudes of looking after the older generation hasn't been entirely lost, well done the chaps in the pub.

Like any of these big organisations and institutions the problems are usually found in the warm shiny offices, have no doubt the standard AA patrolman would have pulled him out in moments without trying to make an insurance drama from a simple tow off the grass.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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smokey mow said:
Seems reasonable.

The AA provide a mechanical breakdown service. His car hadn’t broken down so they had no obligation to attend, in agreeing to come out they were looking to recover their costs from his insurer.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 26th February 12:17
Fairly sure on my AA card it says breakdown & recovery? Wouldn't the recovery bit cover that?

normalbloke

8,882 posts

249 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Simon Bags said:
smokey mow said:
Seems reasonable.

The AA provide a mechanical breakdown service. His car hadn’t broken down so they had no obligation to attend, in agreeing to come out they were looking to recover their costs from his insurer.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 26th February 12:17
Fairly sure on my AA card it says breakdown & recovery? Wouldn't the recovery bit cover that?
They have a specific clause re not recovering if you’re off-road. The reality is, they’ll do what they can with what they’ve got, in my past experience. However, to get to that stage, you first have to get past the GP surgery receptionist in the phone…

smokey mow

1,404 posts

230 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Simon Bags said:
smokey mow said:
Seems reasonable.

The AA provide a mechanical breakdown service. His car hadn’t broken down so they had no obligation to attend, in agreeing to come out they were looking to recover their costs from his insurer.

Edited by smokey mow on Monday 26th February 12:17
Fairly sure on my AA card it says breakdown & recovery? Wouldn't the recovery bit cover that?
You’d need to read your policy documents. In my experience recovery is to a workshop for repair following a breakdown, not recovery back onto the road because you’ve got stuck having left the road.

My breakdown policy specifically excludes recovering a car that has left the road.

DannyScene

8,166 posts

185 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Seems weird her first response was to ring the AA

A quick shout to a few people in the pub to push the guy out would've made more sense

croyde

26,373 posts

260 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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I laughed at people that call the AA/RAC out for a puncture.....

Until I discovered that my latest car doesn't have a jack, or indeed a spare wheel.

GeniusOfLove

5,767 posts

42 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Not just the AA, I got a car stuck in mud and the cheap "rescue my car.com" people told me they'd come and pull it out but it'd be chargeable because it's not a breakdown it's an act of stupidity. Couldn't disagree with them.

There is a strong element of risk of breaking a car pulling it out of mud and so forth, I can see why they wouldn't want to take that on...



I've since learned this is fairly common on recoveries, lots of cars have the towing eye connected to an aluminium crash bar.

alangla

6,741 posts

211 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Do most recovery policies not say something about them not covering recovery after an accident or any recovery that requires specialist equipment, but that they’ll do it for an additional charge? Sounds like the call handler was possibly wanting to get the insurer to approve this particular job as an accident recovery. Presumably craning a car out of a ditch is “specialist equipment”

parabolica

7,014 posts

214 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Situations like this is why there is a wealth of local recovery services staffed by walts in ratty, stickered-up old Discos.

bigandclever

14,369 posts

268 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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GeniusOfLove said:


I've since learned this is fairly common on recoveries, lots of cars have the towing eye connected to an aluminium crash bar.
That just seems .... wrong smile

GeniusOfLove

5,767 posts

42 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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bigandclever said:
GeniusOfLove said:


I've since learned this is fairly common on recoveries, lots of cars have the towing eye connected to an aluminium crash bar.
That just seems .... wrong smile
It was quite funny and fortunately quite cheap to fix. If it had been anything but a shed car I'd have been less amused though.

You can imagine how people react if a recovery driver does it to their car though.

Smint

3,618 posts

65 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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GeniusOfLove said:
It was quite funny and fortunately quite cheap to fix. If it had been anything but a shed car I'd have been less amused though.

You can imagine how people react if a recovery driver does it to their car though.
Shed car!? its almost brand new

GeniusOfLove

5,767 posts

42 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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Smint said:
GeniusOfLove said:
It was quite funny and fortunately quite cheap to fix. If it had been anything but a shed car I'd have been less amused though.

You can imagine how people react if a recovery driver does it to their car though.
Shed car!? its almost brand new
High miles and previous CAT write off made it a shed. I bought it by accident at a trade auction for £1,400 in late 2022.

Brilliant car though, I don't know why they aren't rated much higher against other cars in that segment because it's miles more fun to drive than a Fiesta. It's quite light for a modern car and it shows, can't recommend one enough.

brillomaster

1,874 posts

200 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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63 plate not 73 plate...

Smint

3,618 posts

65 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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brillomaster said:
63 plate not 73 plate...
exactly, a new car compared to my fleet of sheds.

16v stretch

990 posts

187 months

Monday 26th February 2024
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I worked for a breakdown provider a long time ago, that had a slightly better way to deal with them,

We would cover the cost to send out an agent, but all the labour, any equipment etc, was on you at whatever their rate was. If there was mechanical damage evident after pulling free, we would then recover up to policy limits, or to nearest suitable repairer.

I recall one fella driving off the edge of a parking space and hanging front wheels over a small drop. Stands out because he fronted the cost for a hi-ab crane, as he was concerned at the amount of damage would be caused by using scrap wood, sliders, and a tow, and he was upset because we wouldn't also cover the hi-ab callout cost for him.

I do also remember Mayday policies pretty much covering any eventuality, including one fella with a pick up truck and a stupid huge 5th wheel caravan absolutely demolished his pickup truck transmission towing a massive 5th wheel camper all over. Had to pay our agent to get a local farmer to tow it with his tractors to get it to a point where we could get it loaded onto 2x flat beds. I seem to recall we towed him to a few different camp sites under his cover while his truck was getting fixed. Madness. I should imagine those policies might have been pared back somewhat now, but damn I could've written a book with the weird st I used to facilitate.