Legislation killing off Cayman, Boxster and others in July
Legislation killing off Cayman, Boxster and others in July
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StescoG66

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2,423 posts

172 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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I read that as of July 1st many volume cars will be canned due to new EU Cybersecurity legislation. How can that be? Is it down to ECU tracking, or accessibility (ie ability to be remapped) - whatever I just don't see the correlation. Anybody shed any light on it? Apparently loads of volume models will be caught out by this. At face value this is utter madness.
Story here https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelharley/2024/03...

Doofus

34,386 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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StescoG66 said:
I read that as of July 1st many volume cars will be canned due to new EU Cybersecurity legislation. How can that be? Is it down to ECU tracking, or accessibility (ie ability to be remapped) - whatever I just don't see the correlation. Anybody shed any light on it? Apparently loads of volume models will be caught out by this. At face value this is utter madness.
Story here https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelharley/2024/03...
It seems to me that the article to which you have linked explains it quite clearly.

D4rez

1,668 posts

85 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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Per the article, it’s about cyber security i.e. a vehicle’s ability to protect in particular the customer from being being compromised by a 3rd party attack in terms of data, operating systems etc. Essentially your car is now a computer on wheels utilising a truckload of personal and sometimes financial data to go about its business. The new standard (UNECE 29) is pretty stringent but is designed to harmonise security standards.

This has obviously been known for quite a while and in terms of Porsche, they’re not investing in cars like the 718 and old Macan because they’re about to be replaced with EV only offerings on new platforms. It doesn’t make sense to invest this money for a small amount of sales volume vs a temporary pause in sales

andy43

13,205 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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“ The processes now required by UN ECE R 155 could not be implemented because they were not yet known and applicable back when the 718 platform was developed. ”
Yet another method to kill off the ICE. How they’re allowed to retrospectively apply this I dunno. Giving up making cars completely and just selling merch is probably easier than trying to meet the next set of emissions targets…
Good work EU rolleyes

ATG

23,760 posts

301 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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Porsche don't sell many 718 models. The range is due to be canned soon anyway. In their view it doesn't make sense to upgrade the platform to meet the new standards just to keep selling an end-of-life product in the EU. Bit of a non-story really.

mabosh

350 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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There is already a discussion about this on the Boxster/Cayman forum where it is confirmed that 718 sales will continue in the UK

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Article in Car magazine:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-ne...

I suspect it will only be for another year or so anyway.




Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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andy43 said:
“ The processes now required by UN ECE R 155 could not be implemented because they were not yet known and applicable back when the 718 platform was developed. ”
Yet another method to kill off the ICE. How they’re allowed to retrospectively apply this I dunno. Giving up making cars completely and just selling merch is probably easier than trying to meet the next set of emissions targets…
Good work EU rolleyes
Nothing to do with killing combustion, just forcing car manufacturers to do what they should've been doing from the start!

It's a scandal that a hacker can virtually take control of a car remotely through simple attack methods

Also, as lots of foamy mouthed posters seem to have missed it, it's nothing EU related, it's the UNECE, an international organisation

https://unece.org/

Lotobear

9,067 posts

157 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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I'd always assumed that Chinese EV's were most at risk from this?

Terminator X

20,623 posts

233 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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andy43 said:
“ The processes now required by UN ECE R 155 could not be implemented because they were not yet known and applicable back when the 718 platform was developed. ”
Yet another method to kill off the ICE. How they’re allowed to retrospectively apply this I dunno. Giving up making cars completely and just selling merch is probably easier than trying to meet the next set of emissions targets…
Good work EU rolleyes
They don't want us to drive #TinfoilHat

Alpine can't deal with this either so have chosen to limit their cars to smaller volume eg below the threshold that this applies.

TX.

FMOB

1,994 posts

41 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2024
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About bloody time manufacturers took this seriously, pity they needed to be whacked in the corporate nuts by the EU to take this stuff seriously.

The control systems in a car are safety of life critical so with cars having mobile connectivity it is possible these systems can be attacked.

Basically anything that connects to a network/the internet is at risk and a lot of stuff has appalling security.