RE: EX-Damon Hill AC Cobra MkIV CRS for sale
RE: EX-Damon Hill AC Cobra MkIV CRS for sale
Monday 29th April 2024

EX-Damon Hill AC Cobra MkIV CRS for sale

What do we prefer: the Cobra that helped the '96 F1 champ create a new revenue stream - or what Johnny Herbert bought?


Love or loathe Formula 1 drivers, but you’ve got to hand it to them for their taste in cars. Max Verstappen spent a fraction of his many championship bonuses on an Aston Martin Valkyrie, while a McLaren F1 takes pride of place in Lewis Hamilton’s eclectic collection. But anyone who watched the last season of Drive To Survive will know Lando Norris is cooler than the whole grid combined purely for using a Fiat Jolly to zoom about the streets of Monaco.

F1 drivers used to be far more modest with their car purchases. Michael Schumacher, for instance, was often spotted between races driving an array of Fiats, Lancias and Alfa Romeos, while Nigel Mansell had all sorts of tat including an old Fiat Tipo and the bizarre iC Modulo M89 three-wheeler he recently auctioned off. But the Golden Raspberry has to go to Damon Hill, who’s admitted several years back that he didn't like cars and was content with driving a diesel VW Passat. Not that there’s anything particularly wrong with a Passat - but it doesn’t exactly shout ‘Formula 1 World Champion’, does it?

This does, however. It’s an AC Cobra MkIV CRS once owned by the 1996 F1 champ (or by a firm he helped establish anyway, though more on that in a mo). The MkVI CRS (for Carbon Road Series) was no man-in-a-shed kit car, but a proper attempt to revive the British sports car maker after several turbulent decades. Pride Automotive, who acquired AC Cars in the year Hill became champion, looked set to follow a similar business model to Caterham, offering a car that looks every bit like the iconic sports car only with more modern materials and components. That meant carbon fibre bodywork for the MkIV CRS, along with independent suspension all round, a Hydratrak limited-slip differential and AP Racing brakes with four-pot callipers up front. 

Sounds ace, as will the 5.0-litre V8 upfront. Impressively, the Ford-derived motor only manages to squeeze 228hp from such a large capacity, which works out at about 45hp per litre. On the plus side, it’s on the light side at around a tonne and, as a result, will apparently hit 60mph in around five seconds. Not blisteringly quick, but what do you expect from a car that can trace its roots back to the 1950s? AC made a supercharged version with 100hp more and while that does sound like a lot of fun, it’s probably a bit of a handful. For rumbling down country roads, the CRS should do nicely.

Despite all the modern bits, most of which are out of view, the car doesn’t look all that different to the Cobras from the '60s. The design is a slightly more conservative take on the more muscular 427s of old, with a mesh grille and rear-exit exhaust distinguishing it from the original cars. It looks a bit more modern on the inside, with carpet lining the transmission tunnel and an updated design for the Cobra’s signature three-spoke steering wheel. A button-on roof is supplied, as is a cover for the passenger side for solo hooning sessions. Looks the part in blue with silver centre stripes, too.

It was first registered to P1 International, the private supercar members club Hill co-founded back in 2001. So much for disliking cars, eh Damon? It’s one of the later cars as well, being number 34 in the 37-strong production run, and has covered just 15,500 miles under its two previous owners. How does £95,995 sound? It doesn’t look like an F1 champion premium has been applied, either, with this (lower mileage) CRS costing £25k more. Of course, if you’re after F1 star power for less, PH has you covered: there’s this R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R once owned by three-time Grand Prix winner Johnny Herbert for half the price…


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gonnagetyoursBenny

Original Poster:

103 posts

134 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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There's no Cobra that's run of the mill
But this one's ex-Damon Hill
It's got a big V8
It's been on many a date
Worried about condition?
Best take Herbert's Nissan then

200Plus Club

13,590 posts

307 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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6 litre Gardner Douglas Cobra with 450 bhp is better value. The fact that Damon Hill owned this one adds absolutely zero value for me unfortunately, brilliant as he was it is of no relevance with this car.

T1berious

2,670 posts

184 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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The GTR R33 mentioned at the end of article sounds more appealing than the AC Cobra.

GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Any added value derived simply from historic celebrity ownership is a no-no from me although this one doesn't seem to be overly inflated, TBH. The thing that struck me, though, was just how ungainly it looked with the top up! Best reserve it for sunny days then smile

chrisironside

967 posts

191 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Love AC Cobra's, but this doesn't seem that appealing. Would take the Skyline over this even if they were the same price.
The Nissan looks like it comes with three rear numberplates too, which is nice.

Turbobanana

8,381 posts

230 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Childish as it may seem, but although I like the colour and the spec and am not fussed by the lowly specific output of the engine (unlike some who'll be along later), one of the main reasons to buy a Cobra / replica, for me, is to get the whole side exhaust theatricals. I think I'd miss that with tail pipes.

Angelo1985

800 posts

55 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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I’ll have the GT-R, thank you :-D

Robertb

3,852 posts

267 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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£95k for an ex-rental? Seems a tentative ownership connection too and the company had a very chequered history.

Snubs

1,425 posts

168 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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The article says:

"It was first registered to P1 International, the private supercar members club Hill co-founded back in 2001. So much for disliking cars, eh Damon?"

At the time my dad was invited to join the P1 club so we went up to the warehouse in Leatherhead (iirc) and were shown around the available cars by Damon himself. Safe to say he knew little to nothing about any of them, which was a joke from a sales point of view. I remember talking to him about a Noble we were looking at and he had no idea what engine was in it. Overall, as the article says, I got the impression he had very little interest in either the cars or the P1 club. No surprised it folded with that kind of marketing.

NineB

45 posts

85 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Surprised this wasn't mentioned in the 2nd paragraph


https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/influx/people/james-h...


carlo996

6,815 posts

50 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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gonnagetyoursBenny said:
There's no Cobra that's run of the mill
But this one's ex-Damon Hill
It's got a big V8
It's been on many a date
Worried about condition?
Best take Herbert's Nissan then
I thinks it’s nuts that anyone sees extra value in Damon Hill owning a car.

Matt_T

1,281 posts

103 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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I do wonder if the carbon fibre panels make any noticable difference to how this drives compared to a fibre glass one?

mooseracer

2,788 posts

199 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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carlo996 said:
I thinks it’s nuts that anyone sees extra value in Damon Hill owning a car.
Given - as per the article - it is cheaper than a "non Damon Hill" it seems people agree with you

pti

1,858 posts

173 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Nissan, please.

tallsopp

41 posts

186 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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I’m sure it’s a great car but wether it’s an ‘original’ or not, passers by would always ask the question ‘is it a kit?’. Could I justify the asking price with that thought every time it’s taken out and driven. Afraid not!

RB Will

10,844 posts

269 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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I've driven this. My brother was a member of P1 back in the day and had it a couple of times. Far from the best thing on their fleet, The Diablo was my favourite.

I wonder if it mentions anywhere in the documentation about my sister in law reversing their Land Cruiser through the front of it? Maybe that is why it is cheap hehe

S600BSB

8,372 posts

135 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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228hp. Mistake surely.

Monty1502

245 posts

83 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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I used to have one of these - No 19 I think - marvellous until you come to a corner !

andyman_2006

774 posts

219 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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tallsopp said:
I’m sure it’s a great car but wether it’s an ‘original’ or not, passers by would always ask the question ‘is it a kit?’. Could I justify the asking price with that thought every time it’s taken out and driven. Afraid not!
I know what you mean, and at shows you’d maybe get tired of those conversations, but equally I think you’d get asked that even if you had a genuine 60’s cobra, let alone a late CRS, because folk will rarely see a genuine cobra outside of Goodwood paddocks.

You can always pop the bonnet and show them the “AC cars Ltd, Brooklands” chassis build plate and number.





cjb44

739 posts

147 months

Monday 29th April 2024
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Monty1502 said:
I used to have one of these - No 19 I think - marvellous until you come to a corner !
Surely your car needed setting up correctly, they are normally running on rails around corners.