RE: VW adds 340hp ID 7 saloon to GTX lineup
RE: VW adds 340hp ID 7 saloon to GTX lineup
Tuesday 4th June 2024

VW adds 340hp ID 7 saloon to GTX lineup

Launching the wagon first suggested this ID 7 derivative might be more exciting - nope


Hopes were high for the ID 7 GTX - rightly or wrongly - thanks to the IDX Performance concept shown last year. Though evidently a pretty extreme vision (by VW standards), it was also quite clearly an ID 7, one that looked like it could be productionised - carbon buckets, arch flares, gold wheels and all - relatively easily. Even if it didn’t have more than 550hp, as per the show car. But it would surely make buyers think twice before getting a Model 3 Performance or i4 M50 or Performance Packed Polestar. 

As it is, the showroom-spec ID 7 GTX doesn’t bear much resemblance to the Performance. As in, not at all. Its dual motor setup - APP550 at the rear, AKA150 at the front, for those who used to do engine codes - offers up a vaguely useful uptick in power over standard, but only to the same 340hp as in the recently revealed wagon. Indeed, it mirrors the spec of that car near enough exactly: 86kWh battery, 200kW charging, sub six seconds to 62mph and 112mph. Which is all kind of fine, but it’s hard not to be a tad disappointed when a concept has hinted at something more interesting. Range and efficiency are yet to be confirmed.

As a reminder of GTX spec (it would have been easy for the car to pass you by), the flagship ID 7 gets 20-inch alloy wheels (upgradeable to 21s), a black roof, a modest rear diffuser and ever-so-slightly more aggressive bumpers at both ends. GTXs not in Kings Red (it’s white, silver, black or grey otherwise) will probably look like every other ID 7; strong commitment from VW to the Q car cause, with roots going all the way back to the W8 Passat, though customers might prefer something jazzier these days. Or more performance to go with the under-the-radar looks. Standard IQ.Light LED matrix lights get a GTX-specific daytime running light.

Marking this ID 7 out as the top-of-the-range model inside (because ChatGPT and the Wellness app are coming to all) are red accents for the GTX-specific seat, the doors and the wheel, 30-colour ambient lighting and an augmented reality head-up display. Something called an ergoActive seat is an extra, and might be worthwhile given how adept the ID 7 is at wiling away the miles. A glut of additional assists like Connected Travel Assist will be available alongside the standard systems but, given their frustrating nature in a standard ‘7, there seems little reason to get any more.

The standard car did drive okay, however, and the GTX tweaks do hint at bringing the big VW to life a little more. A ‘sporty and precise driving experience’ is promised thanks to tweaks to the steering, suspension and driver aids, though the DCC dampers remain optional.

“With its 250 kW drive and outstandingly dynamic tuning, the new ID 7 GTX demonstrates the fascinating sporting potential offered by electric Volkswagen models,” said Kai Grünitz of VW’s board. “We have put a GTX family on wheels that offers a whole new level of fascination in terms of dynamic performance. That is because the acceleration of all these Volkswagen models – with a clearly noticeable punch – is simply a lot of fun. Combined with high efficiency, this driving pleasure is a vital aspect of Volkswagen e-mobility.” Perhaps we have different opinions of what a lot of fun entails behind the wheel. Or perhaps the ID 7 GTX really will be the VW EV we’ve been waiting for. But don't hold your breath. 


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dunnoreally

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1,356 posts

137 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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On the one hand, that looks significantly less interesting than a seminar I recently attended on the identification and anatomy of our various different types of electricity pylon.

On the other, praise be to all of the gods, they haven't tried to call it a coupé!

Benzinaio

509 posts

31 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Didn't even read the article because it would be five minutes of my life that I will never get back.
What an absolute dog turd of an automobile.

coded2112

175 posts

250 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Car design has reached a new low!!

pb8g09

3,224 posts

98 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Can honestly say I’d rather go for the Dacia and use a hire car for long journeys with the price difference.

apx7

249 posts

139 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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coded2112 said:
Car design has reached a new low!!
At least in the German camp, for sure. They are either incredibly bland and boring or ugly.

Numeric

1,499 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Looking at the Horlicks some manufacturers are getting into, do all the senior leaders of those firms hold big short positions in their companies stock?

cerb4.5lee

44,585 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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I can't get over how far VW have gone down the toilet in recent years. What the hell has happened? It isn't a dig at EVs either, and I had a 2023 Tiguan diesel as a loan car a few months ago, and I struggled to get on with that as well(mainly the cheap feeling steering wheel and interior).

What happened to the days of the Corrado Storm for example? cloud9

I reckon that VAG must just concentrate on Skoda/Porsche etc now, and VW are just feeling the brunt of that really I reckon.

Silvanus

6,910 posts

52 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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When did a saloon become a bloated tall hatchback?

Gigamoons

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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fk me, I’m struggling to think of a more utterly depressing way to spend £60k on a new car.

markdenton

10 posts

116 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Gigamoons said:
fk me, I’m struggling to think of a more utterly depressing way to spend £60k on a new car.
Just couldn’t agree with you more!

SDK

3,494 posts

282 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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markdenton said:
Gigamoons said:
fk me, I’m struggling to think of a more utterly depressing way to spend £60k on a new car.
Just couldn’t agree with you more!
Literally no one is spending £60k though

On my car scheme this is £600 a month all in (insurance, tyres and maintinance) for 3 years, 36k miles.
For a large family car with good performance doesn’t seem too bad.

I don’t see the appeal in 20+ year old Scooby’s or Evo’s, popping and banging as they cruise the city centre at 20mph tongue out

Edited by SDK on Tuesday 4th June 18:46

GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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I’m in the negative camp too, oh dear oh dear, VW reaching new lows. Sad really.

TheMilkyBarKid

878 posts

58 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Just an awful bloated blob. That colour is quite nice I suppose but that’s all I’ve got in the positive camp. Tesla, Polestar, Hyundai, Kia and even BYD will sleep easy tonight I’d imagine.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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coded2112 said:
Car design has reached a new low!!
Harsh but fair.

With the focus on range, EV design is dictated by aerodynamics and designers are limited on what they can do. I get that the market is focused on the range but does it really matter if its 300 or 320 miles? EV's are the most efficient at lower speeds when compared to ICE equivalents and the drag factor is less.

I guess I am in the minority here, but I would forego some range for a better design (that is less compromised) that isnt so generic.

AKjr

653 posts

40 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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markdenton said:
Gigamoons said:
fk me, I’m struggling to think of a more utterly depressing way to spend £60k on a new car.
Just couldn’t agree with you more!
+1, dull as ditch water. Although I agree with the comment above on no one paying 60k for em - although leasing, PCP, sal sac etc, still not worth....

Shuvi

888 posts

235 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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I'm impressed, they've managed to make it bland and ugly. Quite an achievement.

findlay_MX

148 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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The ID3 (that was the first one, wasn't it?) was slated for being dull to look at and dull to drive. You have to hand it to VW that the pursuit of their version of EV purity is unwavering. Seems like the entire VAG group design house simply cannot be bothered to put in any effort with their BEVs, they're even more drab and uninspiring than the Teslas.

CountyAFC

6,048 posts

32 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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What an absolute dog.

No redeeming features whatsoever. That's quite an achievement.

DamnKraut

490 posts

128 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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"With its 250 kW drive and outstandingly dynamic tuning, the new ID 7 GTX demonstrates the fascinating sporting potential offered by electric Volkswagen models"

Only a German can talk such bks with a straight face.
A Board membership well earned biglaugh


Twinair

1,028 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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‘E-mobility’ - ffs…that’s sure to get the pulse racing…