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Now I have nothing against horsey folk, but it’s amazing how much cyclists get moaned about but drove sixty miles or so through Cheshire and it was full of horseboxes doing 25 to 45 mph.
Spent mile after mile sat behind them, overtook when possible but they are tent times more difficult to get past than cyclists.
Never seen so many, overtook one and a couple of dawdlers behind it and the universe saw fit to spawn another one straight after, they move at glacial pace except for the bit when they pull out in front of you, then it’s like horsey launch mode.
So why do cyclists get such ire, when it’s horse boxes that are the real menace ?
Spent mile after mile sat behind them, overtook when possible but they are tent times more difficult to get past than cyclists.
Never seen so many, overtook one and a couple of dawdlers behind it and the universe saw fit to spawn another one straight after, they move at glacial pace except for the bit when they pull out in front of you, then it’s like horsey launch mode.
So why do cyclists get such ire, when it’s horse boxes that are the real menace ?
Horseboxes are nowhere near as prevalent as cyclist, and cyclist can choose to make life easier for other road users and some deliberately go out their way to make a nuisance of themselves because they can.
Is appelby not about now, maybe thats why you are seeing more horseboxes than usual.
Is appelby not about now, maybe thats why you are seeing more horseboxes than usual.
OldGermanHeaps said:
Horseboxes are nowhere near as prevalent as cyclist, and cyclist can choose to make life easier for other road users and some deliberately go out their way to make a nuisance of themselves because they can.
Is appelby not about now, maybe thats why you are seeing more horseboxes than usual.
Can’t vouch for anyone else but I keep left as far as I can, have a rear view mirror and let traffic past when I can.Is appelby not about now, maybe thats why you are seeing more horseboxes than usual.
J4CKO said:
then it’s like horsey launch mode.
Cheers - you just made me & the mrs laugh out loud :-)There are tonnes of horseboxes, trucks, trailers where i am - Somerset/Devon. On the whole, there is only one on your journey and easy to pass OR they pull off elsewhere. Sounds like there was an event in your area.
Only bad time I had was stuck behind one on single lane Devon roads in a V8 Westfield. Was acutely obvious I was stuck behind them for miles. Eventually, they pulled over to let an oncoming car get by. Did they then let me pass? did they f
k. I was bloody livid and made it very clear when I eventually did get to pass.Griffith4ever said:
Was acutely obvious I was stuck behind them for miles. Eventually, they pulled over to let an oncoming car get by. Did they then let me pass? did they fk. I was bloody livid and made it very clear when I eventually did get to pass.
This sort of thing gets right on my tits. I'm recently back from one of my regular jaunts to the northwest Highlands, where I spent many an hour stuck behind utter k. I was bloody livid and made it very clear when I eventually did get to pass.s in motorhomes who drive at a geological pace yet totally ignore the signs telling everybody to use passing places to allow overtaking. Fortunately my car has decent ground clearance and 4wd which allows me to utilise what I call the 'locals' overtake', i.e. nipping onto the rough verge in front of such motorhome wkers when they have to stop for somebody coming the other way. Though it usually upsets the motorhome people, more often than not I get a laugh/thumbs up from the driver coming the other way who presumably feels my pain.When horseboxes have a load on the horse moves around a lot on twisty country lanes so you have to be slow and steady to prevent a horse from injuring itself / getting stressed, when a load isn’t on they normally get a shift on.
Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Backtobasics2 said:
When horseboxes have a load on the horse moves around a lot on twisty country lanes so you have to be slow and steady to prevent a horse from injuring itself / getting stressed, when a load isn’t on they normally get a shift on.
Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Both of the above should make it more likely that they should be paying more attention than the norm to what is around them and showing an enhanced level of awareness of other road users. I'm with the op on this, all road users could do with giving a little more thought to others but some more than most.Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Backtobasics2 said:
When horseboxes have a load on the horse moves around a lot on twisty country lanes so you have to be slow and steady to prevent a horse from injuring itself / getting stressed, when a load isn’t on they normally get a shift on.
Mostly… but assume we’re taking horse boxes (wagons) rather than trailers, there are some properly old ones running around that would struggle to ever get done for speeding.Mack42 said:
Backtobasics2 said:
When horseboxes have a load on the horse moves around a lot on twisty country lanes so you have to be slow and steady to prevent a horse from injuring itself / getting stressed, when a load isn’t on they normally get a shift on.
Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Both of the above should make it more likely that they should be paying more attention than the norm to what is around them and showing an enhanced level of awareness of other road users. I'm with the op on this, all road users could do with giving a little more thought to others but some more than most.Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
If you added up all the time you’ve spent being held up by horse boxes or cyclists it would pale into insignificance vs the time spent waiting to pass cars parked outside shops, slow car drivers, car drivers being crap and having crashed, or just in queues of other car drivers going somewhere, mostly pointlessly.
The only time i ever got any grief from cyclists it involved a horsebox. A917 on the bends just before the Dumbarnie turn off, i'm late as usual for where i was going fishing. You can see right round the left hander easily in winter and far enough up the road to overtake a fair bit of slow moving stuff. I pass two cars and Mrs Horsebox who then gives a sharp toot of the horn, just as i am about to overtake the tour de France Leven chapter. Tail end charlie in the peloton then decides to call me an effin wker.
Why the hell Mrs Horsebox got on the horn i will never know. Just because YOU don't look far enough ahead, plan your driving and are limited by the half tonne of glue in the back (only joking, i like horses, except the one that punted my youngest daughter over it's head and a fence on the one day i was brave enough to go and watch her jumping ) doesn't mean everyone else is useless.
Here is where i made the mistake. I stopped to let tail end charlie know it wasn't me getting on the horn, only to get more effin wker insults. Then Mrs Horsebox came back past and the two cars behind her which at least gave me enough time to calm down so i no longer had it in my head to go and pull Mr effin wker off his bike and ask him to listen to wtf i actually said next time.
Please note i do not have a problem with cyclists, as has been said many times on here there are a multitude of other road users that all cause me more lost time than the odd occasion i do come across them and i always give them a full car width minimum when passing or i won't overtake. Had one fall off at speed in front of me years ago going down the hill from Kinkell into St Andrews as i was about to overtake and it really gave me a fright so always have that in the back of my mind.
ker. Why the hell Mrs Horsebox got on the horn i will never know. Just because YOU don't look far enough ahead, plan your driving and are limited by the half tonne of glue in the back (only joking, i like horses, except the one that punted my youngest daughter over it's head and a fence on the one day i was brave enough to go and watch her jumping ) doesn't mean everyone else is useless.
Here is where i made the mistake. I stopped to let tail end charlie know it wasn't me getting on the horn, only to get more effin w
ker insults. Then Mrs Horsebox came back past and the two cars behind her which at least gave me enough time to calm down so i no longer had it in my head to go and pull Mr effin wker off his bike and ask him to listen to wtf i actually said next time.Please note i do not have a problem with cyclists, as has been said many times on here there are a multitude of other road users that all cause me more lost time than the odd occasion i do come across them and i always give them a full car width minimum when passing or i won't overtake. Had one fall off at speed in front of me years ago going down the hill from Kinkell into St Andrews as i was about to overtake and it really gave me a fright so always have that in the back of my mind.
Backtobasics2 said:
Mack42 said:
Backtobasics2 said:
When horseboxes have a load on the horse moves around a lot on twisty country lanes so you have to be slow and steady to prevent a horse from injuring itself / getting stressed, when a load isn’t on they normally get a shift on.
Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
Both of the above should make it more likely that they should be paying more attention than the norm to what is around them and showing an enhanced level of awareness of other road users. I'm with the op on this, all road users could do with giving a little more thought to others but some more than most.Motorhomes have an annoying habit of being nervous (read don’t know) of the width of their oversized vehicles normally driving down the middle of the road and when a car comes the other way they slow to 5 miles an hour. I love this time of year but my god it’s annoying on the local roads
k. If your employer offers cycle to work then do it on that, you'll effectively get the bike half price or even better if self employed, and (assuming employer flexibility) there's no limit to duration or amount on paying it off. I have no motorhome experience but I have van experience and I don't believe there's any meaningful difference between driving a motorhome and a van. Which means I can say confidently that they deserve no compassion at all, in many ways (admittedly not width) driving a van is *easier* than driving a car.
My mate was out for a cycle, this morning, and collided with a horsebox. He was following the horsebox downhill - quite steep. The empty horsebox braked suddenly to turn into a livery yard where it was picking up it's load. He went straight into the back of it. Apparently................he is in a stable condition.
Horse people are in my experience uniquely selfish, entitled people who think their stupid, archaic hobby is more important than the hundreds of people they inconvenience on a daily basis.
EFA: It's the actual horses being used on the road that this refers to, not the horseboxes.
EFA: It's the actual horses being used on the road that this refers to, not the horseboxes.
Edited by Baldchap on Tuesday 11th June 09:47
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