RE: Cupra Born VZ on sale now
RE: Cupra Born VZ on sale now
Friday 19th July 2024

Cupra Born VZ on sale now

326hp, rear-drive VZ starts at less than £45k - is it the Born we've been waiting for?


Not the most exciting car in the world, the Cupra Born. Perhaps understandable as an electric hatch that shares its fundamentals with the VW ID 3, though still a tad disappointing given Cupra’s supposed billing as the sporty brand in the empire. From what’s been written already, the 326hp VZ certainly sounds like an improvement on what’s come before, and now it’s on sale in the UK - the price is £44,625. 

As a reminder, the VZ is powered by a 79kWh battery, so a teeny bit bigger than the 77kWh lump in other models. It’s the power that’s the important gain, however, adding nearly 100hp to the 231hp that was the previous maximum score. A torque gain of 75 per cent, from 229lb ft to 402lb ft, ought to give the Cupra a welcome shot in the arm. It should reach 62mph in 5.6 seconds, and 124mph. Charging is up to 185kW and range is rated at 372 miles. Divide that by the battery size and you’re looking at 4.7 miles per kilowatt hour, officially at least. 

Pleasingly, the configuring of a 326hp Born looks very simple. There’s one model, the VZ, that comes with the snazzy bucket seats and Sennheiser sound system as standard. These 20-inch wheels are also included. Options include the Dark Forest paint at £930, Dynamic Chassis Control for £835 (which also comes with a different wheel design) and a set of very smart ‘Tornado’ rims for £1,145. But it’s not quite clear yet whether those wheels can be had with the DCC. What was that about simple? A pano roof and heat pump are also extras, so it’s reasonably easy to push the price towards £50k.

Cupra UK’s director Marcus Gossen said: “The Cupra Born is an incredibly popular model, and we’re thrilled with the impact it has made as our first all-electric offering. At Cupra, we continuously strive to exceed expectations, and the Born VZ does exactly that. More power, enhanced refinement, and builds upon the strengths of an already exceptional car.” We’ll endeavour to get behind the wheel of one as soon as possible. 


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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Why did they call it that?! sounds stupid, although as generic electric white goods vehicles go it’s got a decent spec.

the-norseman

15,765 posts

200 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Misanthroper said:
Why did they call it that?! sounds stupid, although as generic electric white goods vehicles go it’s got a decent spec.
SEAT vehicles are usually named after places in Spain, the car originally debut was as a SEAT el-born named after the Barcelona area el-born but they switched it to being a Cupra and dropped the born.

I think the most recent car that wasn't named after a location was the Exeo.

As an ex SEAT/Cupra enthusiast. A Cupra born would suit me perfectly for my usage, but the price of these electric cars no thanks, I've purchased a used Alfa instead.

BlackTank

197 posts

172 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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I like it - good space maximizing design, seats 5, pano roof to lighten up the cabin and a good range. But the price is a non-starter for me. I'm not a commuter drudging my miserable way through life. When I run errands the enjoyment of the drive matters and I have a couple of cars for that. When I'm just in the mood to zone out and golf cart my way through the drive I have an older automatic that's been paid off for years. So the idea of leasing this doesn't make sense, however in a couple of years this will be a cracking good replacement as the new dull errands car.

Firebobby

991 posts

68 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Great stuff! I've always preferred the born over it's id3 cousin. Pity they couldn't sneak it in under the £40k price point though. Also many on here will be very disappointed if its not got an LSD. All that power with no LSD will negate 50% from ever owning one. We all know over 300 horses with no LSD is a recipe for disaster! Just ask any 140i owner....flames

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

234 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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These things have me a little torn. Yes, it is great to see a manufacturer adding more zip to a product, but the product itself is just like all the other fat electric boxes. When I first saw the press pics of the original car, I was pleasantly surprised and quite excited to see an electric hot hatch that might suit my taste, but everything is shot without any clear perspective, so the real thing is just an enormous box. The first time I saw one in the tin, I was left disappointed and this still leaves me cold.

It's a shame as I really do want to feel enthusiasm for an electric car, but this isn't it, it's certainly no hot hatch. MG seem to have more the enthusiast in mind these days, strange given Cupra is supposed to be the enthusiasts brand, it's just another box fest and badge unfortunately.

Mike1990

1,148 posts

160 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Always liked the Born, and if I was in the market for an EV Hot-Hatch I'd be interested for sure.

Darnoc95

516 posts

59 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Firebobby said:
Great stuff! I've always preferred the born over it's id3 cousin. Pity they couldn't sneak it in under the £40k price point though. Also many on here will be very disappointed if its not got an LSD. All that power with no LSD will negate 50% from ever owning one. We all know over 300 horses with no LSD is a recipe for disaster! Just ask any 140i owner....flames
It wont need a LSD it will all be written in the software.

jenkosrugby

256 posts

249 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Firebobby said:
Great stuff! I've always preferred the born over it's id3 cousin. Pity they couldn't sneak it in under the £40k price point though. Also many on here will be very disappointed if its not got an LSD. All that power with no LSD will negate 50% from ever owning one. We all know over 300 horses with no LSD is a recipe for disaster! Just ask any 140i owner....flames
So they will loose 50% of their sales because of a lack of an LSD that for all intents and purposes would be a useless addition to an EV as the software does a pretty good job with traction............

Kawasicki

14,367 posts

264 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Dynamic 300+ bhp RWD car.... sign me up

Harry_523

541 posts

128 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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The M140i for the electric age. Coming to a lamp post near you soon!

its even got pretty good finance deals, 9k down, 350/month, 0% interest PCP

Edited by Harry_523 on Friday 19th July 09:18

Kawasicki

14,367 posts

264 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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jenkosrugby said:
So they will loose 50% of their sales because of a lack of an LSD that for all intents and purposes would be a useless addition to an EV as the software does a pretty good job with traction............
Does it? Not in my experience.

NGK210

4,977 posts

174 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Best-looking VWG EV.
Love the green, would look cool with pale bronze wheels.
Splendid chairs.
But presumably, it’s lumbered with VW’s cost-cutting touchscreen- / haptic-only cabin?
If so: 4-star car with a 1-star cockpit.

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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RWD, plenty of power and torque.

What's not to like?

To the poster talking about LSDs, EVs can and do monitor and adjust drive on a per wheel basis hundreds of times per second. There's no bead to introduce mechanical compromises to resolve problems because those problems can be solved at the motor.

budgie smuggler

6,054 posts

188 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Baldchap said:
RWD, plenty of power and torque.

What's not to like?

To the poster talking about LSDs, EVs can and do monitor and adjust drive on a per wheel basis hundreds of times per second. There's no bead to introduce mechanical compromises to resolve problems because those problems can be solved at the motor.
That depends how exactly the motor(s) is/are mounted, doesn't it? Does the Born have a motor for each rear wheel, or a single motor going through a differential?

Kawasicki

14,367 posts

264 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Baldchap said:
RWD, plenty of power and torque.

What's not to like?

To the poster talking about LSDs, EVs can and do monitor and adjust drive on a per wheel basis hundreds of times per second. There's no bead to introduce mechanical compromises to resolve problems because those problems can be solved at the motor.
You should tell Alfa Romeo this, they made the mistake of installing an expensive LSD in their first electric car. I am sure they could learn a lot from you.


Master Bean

5,207 posts

149 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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What will the range actually be? 4.7 miles per kwh sounds too good to be true.

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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budgie smuggler said:
Baldchap said:
RWD, plenty of power and torque.

What's not to like?

To the poster talking about LSDs, EVs can and do monitor and adjust drive on a per wheel basis hundreds of times per second. There's no bead to introduce mechanical compromises to resolve problems because those problems can be solved at the motor.
That depends how exactly the motor(s) is/are mounted, doesn't it? Does the Born have a motor for each rear wheel, or a single motor going through a differential?
I am assuming dual motors, yes.

Harry_523

541 posts

128 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Baldchap said:
I am assuming dual motors, yes.
Its single motor with an open diff. Can't see any info on if theres torque vectoring by braking or anything.

its also 1999KG tank

Olivera

8,767 posts

268 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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Baldchap said:
RWD, plenty of power and torque.

What's not to like?
It's a hugely overweight bloater that's really just a warmed over ID3. Utter cack.

xu5

788 posts

186 months

Friday 19th July 2024
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You can buy aftermarket diffs for Tesla's and I imagine other similarly configured EVs from the likes of Quaife these days.

Edited by xu5 on Friday 19th July 11:47