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I bought a car today for my daughter at an auction, not one I’d particularly expected to buy, and in fact French cars were on my do not buy list.
I’m very surprised (and pleased) to find the tax on a 2015 1.4 euro 5 diesel Peugeot 208 to be nil.
Any one else had similar surprises? I really don’t understand the justification..
I’m very surprised (and pleased) to find the tax on a 2015 1.4 euro 5 diesel Peugeot 208 to be nil.
Any one else had similar surprises? I really don’t understand the justification..
surveyor said:
Any one else had similar surprises? I really don’t understand the justification..
It was a 2001 tax hack to encourage adoption of diesels in order to meet the Kyoto CO2 targets. It did a good job at that, increasing sales of diesels to 50% of market, but in so doing hugely increased nitrous oxide emissions to beyond toxicity levels and particulate emissions by a magnitude.The 2018 VED changes were designed to rebalance CO2 versus other emissions.
I accidentally bought a 2013 208 1.6 HDi at auction 3 years ago and it's been a fantastic shed, I used it for a while then gave it to my brother who has taken it up to 150,000 miles with no issues at all. It needed the EOLYS diesel exhaust fluid bag refilled and I put a timing belt on it but aside from that it's done about 40k of hard use without anything beyond oil changes.
They're really quite light which translates into how well they drive and how light they are on tyres and suspension bits too. Would unreservedly recommend one.
They're really quite light which translates into how well they drive and how light they are on tyres and suspension bits too. Would unreservedly recommend one.
Eyersey1234 said:
My Focus 1.5tdci is zero value road tax as it creeps in under the 100g CO2 threshold
My brother has the estate version. For a big versatile car it's really handy being zero. Will make an excellent shed when they get a bit older. My focus costs £150 a year to insure so I could keep one on the road for just over £10 a month!LuS1fer said:
Our two Fiat Pandas from 09 and 11 are both 35 quid each, cheap as chips but you have to watch out for the Eleganza version which has a AC and the tax flies up to well over a 100 quid.
Oh what a sod, is being cool and comfortable all year round worth another £65 quid a year. I think it is you know? Especially if you can haggle the first three years tax off the price because it's "so expensive to tax" 
We own the following vehicles and have paid zero road tax this year. Not done intentionally, but feel quite smug about it.
2015 MINI Cooper D 5dr
2015 DS3 Sport (diesel)
1982 VW air cooled camper.
There will be changes to this from April 2925. It feels a bit woolly about our cars. It seems car registered post 2017 are more certain. Might need to read it all again......
2015 MINI Cooper D 5dr
2015 DS3 Sport (diesel)
1982 VW air cooled camper.
There will be changes to this from April 2925. It feels a bit woolly about our cars. It seems car registered post 2017 are more certain. Might need to read it all again......
anyoldcardave said:
Probably one of the reasons diesel suddenly became toxic, after being told it wasn,t.
Even 35 quid does not cover the processing costs of taxing a vehicle, money talks
I wish people would stop believing this accountancy rhetoric which would have you believe that it costs £50 to process a transaction.Even 35 quid does not cover the processing costs of taxing a vehicle, money talks

£35 on every one of the 45 million tax vehicles amounts to £1.6bn, that's near 10x the dvla's budget
in 2022-2023 it looks like they spent about £125m on VED collection and enforcement, and a net £42m after collection of fines and other fees.
so less than £1 per vehicle, or less than £3 if you insist on using the total expenditure.
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