A Real Danger REAR FOG LIGHT
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Yesterday I travelled the length of the M1 in the pouring rain. Something very dangerous is happening and I’m surprised there have not been more accidents.
Many cars were travelling with NO rear lighting… NONE. When I passed them they did have front fog lights on. Every single one. They would never intentionally go with nothing in the rear so something must be happening… they think their fog lights ARE on. From inside there is no warning.
My guess is that by switching on their front fog light they think they are ALL on. How can a manufacturer allow this to happen? If there is another explanation… please tell me.
How come it is so easy to have nothing in the rear?
Education is needed.
Manufacturers should be made to correct every single car that this happen to. Billions of £ to do it.
Many cars were travelling with NO rear lighting… NONE. When I passed them they did have front fog lights on. Every single one. They would never intentionally go with nothing in the rear so something must be happening… they think their fog lights ARE on. From inside there is no warning.
My guess is that by switching on their front fog light they think they are ALL on. How can a manufacturer allow this to happen? If there is another explanation… please tell me.
How come it is so easy to have nothing in the rear?
Education is needed.
Manufacturers should be made to correct every single car that this happen to. Billions of £ to do it.
Yup, they are DRLs. Never understood the logic that DRLs should only be front not rear lightsm
People don't turn their lights on much anymore, either because they rely on auto lights or (more probably) because the dash of most cars these days is lit up whether your lights are on or off, so drivers assume their lights are on when they aren't.
People don't turn their lights on much anymore, either because they rely on auto lights or (more probably) because the dash of most cars these days is lit up whether your lights are on or off, so drivers assume their lights are on when they aren't.
sraworld said:
Yesterday I travelled the length of the M1 in the pouring rain. Something very dangerous is happening and I’m surprised there have not been more accidents.
Many cars were travelling with NO rear lighting… NONE. When I passed them they did have front fog lights on. Every single one. They would never intentionally go with nothing in the rear so something must be happening… they think their fog lights ARE on. From inside there is no warning.
My guess is that by switching on their front fog light they think they are ALL on. How can a manufacturer allow this to happen? If there is another explanation… please tell me.
How come it is so easy to have nothing in the rear?
Education is needed.
Manufacturers should be made to correct every single car that this happen to. Billions of £ to do it.
They are DRLs not front fog lights.Many cars were travelling with NO rear lighting… NONE. When I passed them they did have front fog lights on. Every single one. They would never intentionally go with nothing in the rear so something must be happening… they think their fog lights ARE on. From inside there is no warning.
My guess is that by switching on their front fog light they think they are ALL on. How can a manufacturer allow this to happen? If there is another explanation… please tell me.
How come it is so easy to have nothing in the rear?
Education is needed.
Manufacturers should be made to correct every single car that this happen to. Billions of £ to do it.
Also, most drivers put their light switch on “Auto” and forget about it.
Auto lights don’t switch on in fog during daylight, ‘cause it’s not dark. Sadly, most UK drivers haven’t realised this, and carry on happily without realising that they have no lights on despite c**p visibility.
Auto lights don’t switch on in fog during daylight, ‘cause it’s not dark. Sadly, most UK drivers haven’t realised this, and carry on happily without realising that they have no lights on despite c**p visibility.
dontlookdown said:
Yup, they are DRLs. Never understood the logic that DRLs should only be front not rear lightsm
People don't turn their lights on much anymore, either because they rely on auto lights or (more probably) because the dash of most cars these days is lit up whether your lights are on or off, so drivers assume their lights are on when they aren't.
Up!s dashboard is lit up but has a sensor so it goes out when it gets dark “forcing” the driver to put the lights on. Simple and effective. People don't turn their lights on much anymore, either because they rely on auto lights or (more probably) because the dash of most cars these days is lit up whether your lights are on or off, so drivers assume their lights are on when they aren't.
It wouldn’t work when it’s raining though but I was always taught “wipers on, lights on”.
Surely every manufacturer must resolve this. In the rain yesterday it was relatively easy to spot a car in front. In winter fog, with nothing in the rear it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
CanAm said:
I haven't read the recent Highway Code, but it used to say dipped headlights in rain. And it was probably "must" rather than "should".
I think you are right. Many car drivers have no understanding of what is on or off which is why the manufacturers must be made to change things so light selection is foolproof. sraworld said:
Surely every manufacturer must resolve this. In the rain yesterday it was relatively easy to spot a car in front. In winter fog, with nothing in the rear it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
sue the manufacturer for what? Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
sraworld said:
Surely every manufacturer must resolve this. In the rain yesterday it was relatively easy to spot a car in front. In winter fog, with nothing in the rear it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
Hopefully you’ve learned at least one of those in this thread!Education needs seems to be:
Auto lights does not help when you need additional lighting.
Rear fog lights could save your life… learn how to use them and check they are working.
Learn what all positions on the lighting switch does.
Understand DRLs.
Who will be the first person to sue the manufacturers?
I agree people do need to take responsibility for ensuring they are visible, but your thread title seems to suggest rear fog lights in the rain? NO!
Not sure why you’re thinking the manufacturers should be sued though?
Jimjimhim said:
sue the manufacturer for what?
Making cars that have a built-in issue with lighting. Relying on owners to read their handbook is not realistic.Look at all those US cars where the “Nearer than think” warnings are printed on the wing mirrors. They are doing it to protect themselves.
Design issues are the problem and as soon their is a death there will plenty to sue about.
sraworld said:
Jimjimhim said:
sue the manufacturer for what?
Making cars that have a built-in issue with lighting. Relying on owners to read their handbook is not realistic.Look at all those US cars where the “Nearer than think” warnings are printed on the wing mirrors. They are doing it to protect themselves.
Design issues are the problem and as soon their is a death there will plenty to sue about.
ferret50 said:
Nothing new here.
I'm a retired lorry driver, more than ten years back I was observing cars running at night on the motorways with no rear lighting on.
'But the dashboard is lit up' !
It has been made much worse because of a setting that says AUTO” I think the public think they have nothing to do. I understand DRLs are part of the problem.I'm a retired lorry driver, more than ten years back I was observing cars running at night on the motorways with no rear lighting on.
'But the dashboard is lit up' !
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