RE: Ford rubs upgrade salt in Ranger Raptor wound
RE: Ford rubs upgrade salt in Ranger Raptor wound
Wednesday 28th August 2024

Ford rubs upgrade salt in Ranger Raptor wound

For less than 700 quid, Ford will increase your Raptor's output by 50hp. But not here


If you can forgive the ‘let’s off-road’ image, the Ford Ranger Raptor is one of the most likeable performance cars currently on sale in Britain. Fact. Granted, that says something about the dearth of options available to anyone not shopping for a new supercar - but it also says much about the oversized pleasure of piloting a cleverly sprung and moderately fast pickup around a crumbling network of B roads. Even allowing for the Ranger’s bum-puckering size, the Raptor is impressively well-suited to life in the UK. 

Of course, to be able to sell it in the UK (and in Europe generally), Ford had to fire a pretty big party pooper at it: in Australia, where the Raptor was engineered, the Raptor’s 3.0-litre V6 pumps out 400-odd horsepower. In this country, it doesn’t even get to 300hp. So rather than a full-throated roar to 60mph in five-and-a-bit seconds, you’ll get to 62mph in a more leisurely 7.9 seconds. Brisk for a British pickup, certainly. But not nearly as spiritedly as the trick chassis was obviously designed to cope with. Which does tend to put a limiter on the fun. 

It gets worse, too. In the States, where the emissions noose is as accommodating as a Doctor Who scarf, Ford has apparently spent what little time it's had with the Ranger (the Raptor was only introduced in North America last year) fiddling around in the bonnet. As a result - and presumably to rival whatever the aftermarket is already doing with the engine - it will now sell you a new Ford Performance Parts-branded software calibration that liberates another 50hp. Oh and 106lb ft of torque, taking it to a warm and fuzzy 536lb ft peak. In the UK you must make do with 362lb ft. 

On top of the numbers, the manufacturer reckons you’ll get improved throttle response and an optimised shift schedule for a ‘more powerful driving experience’. And you’ll only pay $825 (around £625) for a tweak that can be installed by a local dealer, meets all of Ford’s durability standards and is still covered by the three-year warranty. It all sounds brilliant (probably literally) and very much up our street - and about as distant as getting an In-N-Out burger for lunch. The closest Ford gets to tweaking its cars for the better in Europe is fitting coilovers to the (time-limited) Focus ST. The prospect of a fire-breathing Raptor - one to finally put memory of the V8-powered Vauxhall Maloo to bed - seems terminally unlikely. Shame.


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rix

Original Poster:

2,949 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Shame - why on earth not! Something does indeed appeal about the ranger raptor although I'd always feel like I couldn't ignore it wasn't a F150... A bit more power would surely always feel welcome!

1Tom1985

103 posts

55 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Im assuming its something to do with the marvellous EU and their emission regulations, even though Lamboughnis and the like can seem emit whatever they like

DrEMa

1,529 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Wonder how much is different between the UK and Aussie engine spec, software aside...

loskie

7,094 posts

149 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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1Tom1985 said:
Im assuming its something to do with the marvellous EU and their emission regulations, even though Lamboughnis and the like can seem emit whatever they like
that plus we left the EU too but bizarrely still abide by their rules!!!


FFS you cant make that up can you?

AC43

13,614 posts

237 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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loskie said:
that plus we left the EU too but bizarrely still abide by their rules
This was the "oven ready" deal, remember :-) :-)

normalbloke

8,865 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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DrEMa said:
Wonder how much is different between the UK and Aussie engine spec, software aside...
Lots.

ST330

401 posts

40 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Probably thank EU type approval and the technical requirements covering certain environmental obligations such as:

the standardised measure of CO2 emissions,
pollutant emission limits,
fuel consumption,
engine power or vehicle noise emissions.

You can probably up them Lamborghini style but then you'd be closer to Lamborghini money and volume.

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Performance car?

Erm what?

DodgyGeezer

48,995 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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could you just run a US/Aussie tune and release the extra horses (ok you'd lose the warranty but...)?

Huff

3,423 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Well - TF,FT as to' no UK upgrade':

...because the only ones I've seen in the UK, are consistently- driven by total bell-ends, badly.

1Tom1985

103 posts

55 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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loskie said:
that plus we left the EU too but bizarrely still abide by their rules!!!


FFS you cant make that up can you?
Yep we should be getting a truck specified like OZ but the politicians have decided to follow the EU

1Tom1985

103 posts

55 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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AC43 said:
This was the "oven ready" deal, remember :-) :-)
Common mistake. The “oven ready” deal was for the transition period not the future trading relationship.

S600BSB

8,354 posts

135 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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Ford need to crack on with the electric Raptor.

ChrisCh86

1,127 posts

73 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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Has no one managed to re-map the EU spec Ranger Raptor to a higher tune yet?

I've only seen piggy-back style retuning boxes, which give you an extra 50 bhp or so on the stock EU tune, nothing more than that yet.


It seems strange as most other Ford ECUs are easily re-programmable. I wonder if the Ranger is on a newer platform and the ECU hasn't been hacked yet?

DodgyGeezer

48,995 posts

219 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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1Tom1985 said:
AC43 said:
This was the "oven ready" deal, remember :-) :-)
Common mistake. The “oven ready” deal was for the transition period not the future trading relationship.
And with the current lot in what's the betting that we'll end up leading the charge for low emissions far in excess of what the EU mandate...

martin12345

1,007 posts

118 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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The main reason for the lower power in EU/UK models is the need to fit a GPF to meet the RDE emissions regulations whereas the USA emissions reg's drive the need for. This may be compounded with the need to reduce boost to keep the engine at Lambda = 1 over the vast majority of the operating area during the RDE cycle . There is possibly also a contribution from the silencing but if so that will be a lesser effect

I am sure (I don't know, as I don't work there any more but used to, so know how Ford used to operate) that when Ford developed the vehicle they looked at the main markets for it and developed it with those in mind. Then for Europe (a minor market in this case) they went "how can we make this legal without huge engineering costs" and it resulted in a rather restrictive exhaust and/or lower boost and the big power loss relative to the rest of the world. No doubt, with an illegal exhaust (GPF delete) and a quick tune (once the ECU is "cracked" then lots of power could be liberated but with tiny sales, it may be the tuning companies don't want to put the time into cracking the code and developing a performance package - certainly not until they are out of warranty as few will want to mod them like this whilst still in warranty

normalbloke

8,865 posts

248 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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ChrisCh86 said:
Has no one managed to re-map the EU spec Ranger Raptor to a higher tune yet?

I've only seen piggy-back style retuning boxes, which give you an extra 50 bhp or so on the stock EU tune, nothing more than that yet.


It seems strange as most other Ford ECUs are easily re-programmable. I wonder if the Ranger is on a newer platform and the ECU hasn't been hacked yet?
The 2.0 bi turbo from the previous shape Ranger hasn’t yet been ‘cracked’ for remapping yet, so I wouldn’t hold out too much hope.

anyoldcardave

1,081 posts

96 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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I hate pick ups, see them as pointless, but..............

I took one of these on a 200+ road trip, the return car was a Mustang 5.0 in part ex.

Could have carried on all the way up into the Highlands of Scotland, it is a Grand tourer, more so than the GT Mustang it replaced.

It is the only pick up I enjoyed driving, ever, and I really enjoyed it.

I believe the same 10 speed auto as the Mustang ? It worked in the Ranger, bloody awful in the Mustang.

As far as I was concerned, it has taken pick ups to a whole different level.

Would I buy one? No, Would I like to load one up and do that long European tour, absolutely.

Motormatt

508 posts

247 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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anyoldcardave said:
I hate pick ups, see them as pointless, but..............

I took one of these on a 200+ road trip, the return car was a Mustang 5.0 in part ex.

Could have carried on all the way up into the Highlands of Scotland, it is a Grand tourer, more so than the GT Mustang it replaced.

It is the only pick up I enjoyed driving, ever, and I really enjoyed it.

I believe the same 10 speed auto as the Mustang ? It worked in the Ranger, bloody awful in the Mustang.

As far as I was concerned, it has taken pick ups to a whole different level.

Would I buy one? No, Would I like to load one up and do that long European tour, absolutely.
I've been a passenger in one and the thing that surprised me the most was how refined it was on the motorway. Cabin noise was exceptionally good especially given the huge off road tyres.

1Tom1985

103 posts

55 months

Friday 30th August 2024
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If we got specs similar to the Oz version in the UK, I would definitely take this pickup over a large SUV such as an Audi A8 etc.
I think the best chance we will have in the UK is an electric version with artificial sound like the Hyudai Ioniq 5 N