RE: Rare yellow Peugeot 205 Rallye for sale
RE: Rare yellow Peugeot 205 Rallye for sale
Monday 2nd September 2024

Rare yellow Peugeot 205 Rallye for sale

Remember when the coolest hot hatches were Peugeots? This should jog your memory


Peugeot doesn’t do performance cars any more. Not really, anyway. A quick flick through its website reveals there are just three ‘Peugeot Sport’ models, two of which are variants of the 508 PSE, which is comfortably the warmest thing the company makes but hardly boils the mercury. And the other is the 9X8 Le Mans car. Which you can’t buy, nor would you want to based on recent form. And although the underrated 208 GTI was on sale not that long ago, the new generation supermini has forgone a hot version in favour of electrification. 

That’s a whole can of worms we don't intend on opening, but a near-complete lack of performance models in its range is obviously frustrating, particularly the absence of an affordable hot hatch. This is the company that mastered the class, with the 205 GTI laying the foundations of hot puggery for the best part of two decades. And then there were the Rallyes. Most companies create cheaper ‘warm’ models to sit below their flagship performance offerings (think ST to RS, GTI to R and so on), whereas Peugeot would take one of its hatchbacks from the production line, strip its interior, give it a rally-inspired paint job and slot it in right below its GTI range-topper. The Rallyes weren’t just a watered-down hot hatch, they were proper lightweight performance cars.

Peugeot’s genius Rallye line began with the 205, similar(ish) to the one you see here. After the raving success of the GTI, the company decided a cheaper alternative was needed to hoover up those hungry for a hot hatch on a tighter budget. So the firm called on its racing squad, Peugeot-Talbot Sport, to create a rally-inspired hatch that wouldn’t step on the toes of the GTI. To keep costs down, a regular TU-series engine (as opposed to the GTI’s XU motor) was plucked from the 205 production line, bored out to 1.3 litres and fitted with a set of racier cams and dual Weber carburettors. Power was rated at 103hp, peppy enough for a sports model back in the mid-'80s, and 15hp shy of the 1.6-litre GTI. 

That said, the Rallye was quite a bit lighter than the GTI. Much of the sound-deadening was discarded, and it chucked out most of the electrical bits (a blessing from a classic ownership standpoint) and simplified the heating system, bringing the Rallye down to a kerb weight of just 793kg - 57kg less than the 1.6 GTI. Talbot Sport could have left it there, but instead opted to carry over the suspension, as well as the brakes and rear axle from the GTI. The hot hatch’s hardware combined with a revvy four-pot and sublime, featherweight chassis gave rise to what some consider to be the best-handling front-wheel drive car ever conceived - if not a particularly quick one.

This, however, isn’t one of the Euro-grade 205 Rallyes, of which over 30,000 were produced, it’s one of just 800 right-hand drive models built for the UK market. These admittedly weren’t quite as spritely as their European counterparts, packing a larger (yet less powerful) 1.4-litre engine and doing away with much of the GTI hardware, though it was still a rev-hungry, lightweight 205 that looked every bit as cool as those on the other side of the channel. More so, in fact, as while Euro cars were only offered in white, ours could be also had in blue and yellow, of which only 80 and 250 were produced respectively.

As you can see, it’s the latter that’s up for sale here, sporting a similar look to Peugeot’s epic Dakar and Pikes Peak challengers from the mid-80s. This one’s in especially good nick, having undergone a pricey restoration four years ago, including a respray and replacement interior panels, in order to return it to its former glory. The asking price is £10,995, which makes it just a smidgen cheaper than the 1.6 GTIs currently for sale, just as it would have been 30 years ago. Probably wouldn’t cost the moon to bring it up to European spec, either…


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simonwedge

Original Poster:

763 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Should it be sat so high - especially at the front? Regardless, seems like decent value in todays market and a hoot to drive I bet.

simonwedge

Original Poster:

763 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Should it be sat so high, especially at the front? Regardless, seems like decent value in todays market and a hoot to drive I bet.

Turbobanana

8,367 posts

230 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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PH said:
Probably wouldn’t cost the moon to bring it up to European spec
Well, you'd need to source the squared-off arches, revise the suspension, fit a 1294cc engine in place of the 1360cc XS / XT-derived TU and convert it to LHD. Other than that, yeah - simple.

Most folk would probably just buy a S1 106 Rallye.

username_checksout

543 posts

29 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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I thought the 3 door XS and 4 door GT were the lesser GTI models? I always saw the Rallyes as an outlier.

wal 45

902 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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I don't remember this being anything other than a standard Peugeot special edition at the time, just a badged up XS. As Turbo B pointed out the "proper" LHD 205 Rallye is way different to this.

Remember one of the Workshop Instructors on our base swapping his 6 month old 309 Goodwood he bought new for a brand new one of these (identical colour and spec) as he moaned the Goodwood was too expensive on fuel, he then moaned about how slow and basic the 205 was compared to the 309.

That said though my wife had this engine in a new 106 XT at a similar time and I loved driving that car, this 205 will be great fun we all know that but a proper Rallye would be different level fun.

Tagnot

33 posts

25 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Nice, but looks far better in white. Not sure I'd go for this over a Gti though.

Wren-went

1,062 posts

67 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Early 90s an apprentice that worked with me had a 205 Rallyei which he bought brand new. Myself & others in the engineering department we worked in would wind him up lol.

Why would you buy that I can walk faster , who buys a car with wind up Windows etc.you should have saved a bit more & at least bought a 1.9 GTi, just having a bit of fun with him but he certainly would bite , regarding it's Rallye pedigree etc etc.

Demonix

827 posts

241 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Given the UK spec Rallye lost the higher spec components of its Gallic equivalent you'd have to really love pugs to spend a five shy of 11k on this one. Especially when 4-5k less buys the tidy 325ci or 330ci or an slk 350 from the vendor.

PistonBroker

2,718 posts

255 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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wal 45 said:
I don't remember this being anything other than a standard Peugeot special edition at the time, just a badged up XS.
Correct.

In 2000 I set about looking for my first car.

Having discounted Nova SRs due to rust, my mate suggested the 205 XS.

Most of those also appeared to have been thrashed to within an inch of their lives, but I eventually found a 205 Roland Garros in nice nick. It was also just essentially an XS, but with some fancy metallic paint, nicer interior and alloys.

Back then these Rallyes hadn't quite dropped into my budget, but I did go and look at a yellow one like this on a rough pitch in West Bromwich.

Bobley

730 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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The Rallye special edition we had in the UK was nothing to do with the real 205 Rallye which was available on the continent.

The fact that someone's trying to flog this piece of crap for big money verges on fraud.

Someone coughed up £10K plus fees for one on Collecting Cars recently

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1993-peugeot-2...

If it wasn't so cruel, I'd say I wish I was there the first time they drove it...

Meanwhile a real one went for €14.5K (~£12K)

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1991-peugeot-2...

The fact that Pistonheads are gushing about the hatchback equivalent of an ice cream van is embarrassing

GTRene

22,445 posts

253 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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hm, never seen one in yellow I believe, its not a nice color for such! also way to high on its feet...

here is my ex 205 Rallye a 1.9 version, and ow, I see my also ex 205 GTI 1.9 Gutmann (160hp) Dimma behind it, the purple one, all back in the early nineties or so.


J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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GTRenes white one, looks cool, this yellow one, strong Little Tikes Cozy Coupe vibe, needs the arch things and lower stance, otherwise its got a look of the 1.1 5 door my wifes friend had back in the day.

Dombilano

1,440 posts

84 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Looks like a 1980s British Telecom tribute car

r1ch

2,955 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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It’s a cool car and pretty rare, however think I’d put that kind of money into a GTI though. Bet it’s fun to drive down a b road. I’d love a go in the French variant.

Steve Benson

300 posts

183 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Rallied one of these for years between 2003 and 2007. Great little car with a tricky little gearbox you could remove from the side of the engine.
Lots of fun but I wouldn't like to have a major shunt in it. On the Wyedean the shell flexed so badly in compressions that a rear window fell out and tailgate shattered. Beat a lot of more expensive machinery though.

Crashed it at Mamby in the dust. Carried on but the impact had moved the gearbox and it was never the same again, kep eating second gears after that.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofile/66217-steve...

nismo48

7,017 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Bobley said:
The Rallye special edition we had in the UK was nothing to do with the real 205 Rallye which was available on the continent.

The fact that someone's trying to flog this piece of crap for big money verges on fraud.

Someone coughed up £10K plus fees for one on Collecting Cars recently

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1993-peugeot-2...

If it wasn't so cruel, I'd say I wish I was there the first time they drove it...

Meanwhile a real one went for €14.5K (~£12K)

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1991-peugeot-2...

The fact that Pistonheads are gushing about the hatchback equivalent of an ice cream van is embarrassing
Are the sellers just naive or greedy scratchchin

Slowlygettingit

940 posts

70 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Had a 205 gti in 1996 for around 2 years and it was equally fantastic and a money pit. Cost £3600 iirc and easily spent £2400+ keeping it going.
Admittedly when the cam belt snapped (£1000) it was my own fault as I had booked it in about a month before but missed taking it due to a hangover, and never rebooked.
Fantastic thing but must’ve been a Friday afternoon car.

Didn’t get the rallye then don’t get the rallye now.

blue_haddock

5,020 posts

96 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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Way too expensive for what is effective a tarted up special edition with limited performance.

You could get an actual GTi for less money.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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wal 45 said:
I don't remember this being anything other than a standard Peugeot special edition at the time, just a badged up XS.
My first decent car was a G reg 205 XS in 1994 so it was five years old at the time. Absolutely loved it, one owner before me and felt brand new compared to the C reg Ford Escort MK3 I was driving before.

Absolutely gutted when I wrote it off two months later. A few years later I bought a 205 Gti 1.6 (should have got the 1.9) thinking it would be like the XS but better. I hated it, the 205 XS felt light, nimble and loved to rev, this GTi felt like it had been thrashed to death.


findlay_MX

148 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd September 2024
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These weren't even based on an XS (which has an alloy 1360 TU3S engine), this is a base model (hence the tippy toe suspension) with a cast 1360 TU3 block. Would have been 75bhp when new, compared to the XS/GT's 85bhp. This also had a MUCH leggier 5th gear (top speed was actually in 4th). The XS had luxuries such as pop-out rear windows. So yes, very mu a limited edition Peugeot of its time, some stickers on a base model.

I would know, I had one for 4 years/60k miles and I absolutely bloody ADORED it.