Nearside / Offside
Nearside / Offside
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Voldemort

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7,558 posts

307 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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I have heard the definition of nearside given as the passenger side. I have also heard it defined as the kerbside. In the UK and in a RHD car these definitions give the same result.

Does the definition of nearside/offside take into account the hand of drive of a vehicle? Does nearside/offside change as you change from driving on the left to driving on the right hand side of the road when abroad?

Rushjob

2,302 posts

287 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Nearside is near the kerb, offside is the opposite so yes, when driving in Europe on the other side of the road, nearside and offside change sides from the UK description.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

210 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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"in the UK" is the bit that matters. The "RHD" bit doesn't. There should be no assumption on the location of the driver when speaking in these terms. Could be LHD / RHD or a single driver in the middle or a road sweeper with two steering wheels which can be driven from either side.

Huzzah

28,978 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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This is why I only ever use 'port' and 'starboard'

bnseven

171 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Surely Near side is the side nearest to you as you lead and mount a horse from? That is the same side all over the world and is of course the left side of the horse as it faces forwards and would be the Kerb side in GB (and other RHD countries ) but would be the carriageway side in LHD countries.

Time4another

517 posts

32 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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4 replies and we are already onto nautical terms and horses. I love this forum.

Huzzah

28,978 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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bnseven said:
Surely Near side is the side nearest to you as you lead and mount a horse from? That is the same side all over the world and is of course the left side of the horse as it faces forwards and would be the Kerb side in GB (and other RHD countries ) but would be the carriageway side in LHD countries.
Have you tried explaining this in your local fast fit tyre place?

Radec

5,950 posts

76 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Huzzah said:
This is why I only ever use 'port' and 'starboard'
Might work for your car, maybe not for others.


C5_Steve

8,869 posts

132 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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I'm glad someone has asked this as it's perpetually confused me rofl

Doesn't help that I have a left-hand drive car. What's the need for another term aside from driver/passenger side? Pretty obvious from looking at the car, unless it's something with a centre seat in which case I don't think it'll really be an issue for your McLaren of GMA.

bnseven

171 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Time4another said:
4 replies and we are already onto nautical terms and horses. I love this forum.
well I believe the term is from the mid 1600's so horses and boats would have been far more familiar with those using the expression than steering control arms!

Huzzah

28,978 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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bnseven said:
Time4another said:
4 replies and we are already onto nautical terms and horses. I love this forum.
well I believe the term is from the mid 1600's so horses and boats would have been far more familiar with those using the expression than steering control arms!
Okay explain steering wheel?

oldagepensioner

561 posts

57 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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ingenieur said:
"in the UK" is the bit that matters. The "RHD" bit doesn't. There should be no assumption on the location of the driver when speaking in these terms. Could be LHD / RHD or a single driver in the middle or a road sweeper with two steering wheels which can be driven from either side.
This is why in the motor trade at least we always used to say left and right as if sitting in the drivers seat as RHD and LHD make no difference.

snotrag

15,632 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Anyone who has worked in any technical way or in the motor trade is banging their head right now.


A car has a left hand side. And a right hand side.

These are the only terms that should be used when referring to a side of the vehicle.

It doesnt matter what country you are in. Or which side the steering wheel is. Or which way up the car is. Or whether your standing looking under the bonnet, or upside down in the boot.

Gary C

15,240 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Huzzah said:
This is why I only ever use 'port' and 'starboard'
Its daft, but Port always sounds like a right handed word to me...

Bluevanman

10,147 posts

222 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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snotrag said:
Anyone who has worked in any technical way or in the motor trade is banging their head right now.


A car has a left hand side. And a right hand side.

These are the only terms that should be used when referring to a side of the vehicle.

It doesnt matter what country you are in. Or which side the steering wheel is. Or which way up the car is. Or whether your standing looking under the bonnet, or upside down in the boot.
I worked in the motor trade for over 35 years and the only terms used were near side or off side. Parts would be marked in that way. Estimates and invoices the same .

Huzzah

28,978 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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snotrag said:


Or which side the steering wheel is.
A steering wheel could be either

a) wheel you steer the car with (hand wheel)
b) or a wheel which steers (road wheel)

Edited by Huzzah on Tuesday 10th September 16:19

williamp

20,394 posts

302 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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snotrag said:
Anyone who has worked in any technical way or in the motor trade is banging their head right now.


A car has a left hand side. And a right hand side.

These are the only terms that should be used when referring to a side of the vehicle.

It doesnt matter what country you are in. Or which side the steering wheel is. Or which way up the car is. Or whether your standing looking under the bonnet, or upside down in the boot.
Left as you look at it/ work on it, left from the drivers seat? You see, if cars had coloured navigation lights like ships and aircraft this would be easier.

Huzzah

28,978 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Gary C said:
Huzzah said:
This is why I only ever use 'port' and 'starboard'
Its daft, but Port always sounds like a right handed word to me...
The skipper LEFT his RED PORT wine on the side.


Edited by Huzzah on Tuesday 10th September 16:27

Hoofy

80,050 posts

311 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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bnseven said:
well I believe the term is from the mid 1600's so horses and boats would have been far more familiar with those using the expression than steering control arms!
Horses don't understand English and boats don't have ears. biggrin

bnseven

171 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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and of course motorcycles always have the side stand on the near side as that is the side you mount them from...its that Horse thing again