RE: Latest Lotus cuts mean up to 200 UK jobs will go
RE: Latest Lotus cuts mean up to 200 UK jobs will go
Friday 8th November 2024

Latest Lotus cuts mean up to 200 UK jobs will go

Falling demand cited for additional UK redundancies


It has been confirmed that up to 200 UK-based roles at Lotus might be lost as part of a restructuring effort to deal with falling demand. While the Evija hypercar project remains in progress for now, as does production of the Emira (and hopefully continuing development of an EV sports car), an official statement has suggested that the focus going forward will be on “fulfilling our order book”. Presumably as opposed to making loads more cars, hence a reduced need for people. 

That statement reported: “The latest proposed organisational changes at Lotus Cars are to ensure that the company has the right organisation structure in place to ensure sustainable operations. Following a review of resources in line with market demand and evolving market conditions, the company is optimising its internal processes and structures to achieve its long-term business objectives.” Which seems like a roundabout way of saying that not enough cars are being sold to justify the current level of staff. 

That being said, the stated aim is for people to be redeployed ‘wherever possible’ to retain expertise within Lotus. ‘We believe this is vital to ensuring the organisation is leaner and more competitive in today’s market’, the statement added. Simon Lane, who was Executive Director of Advanced Performance - Lotus’s division for halo products and special editions - has recently left the company, taking up a new role as the UK RML Group Agent to market the P39. We’ve not heard of any other changes as yet. 

The short statement concluded by saying that Lotus remains ‘fully committed to the UK as the heart of our sports car operations’. The firm would likely argue that a leaner operation is a nimbler one, able to deliver the Lotus sports cars we know and love while Wuhan makes the more luxurious stuff. Additionally - while it’s not a situation anyone would wish to see Lotus in - there are some very good deals around on new cars right now, including both Emira variants at zero per cent APR - an AMG-engined model is less than £800 a month with a £6,758 deposit. And there’s little to stir up interest in a new car like having to pay no interest to get in one…


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Frimley111R

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263 months

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Understandable given the car crash that is the car market and it's forced EV changeover but at least staff will be redeployed. It also looks like a drop in the ocean compared to VW (admittedly VW are a little bigger!). And to be fair it is a drop in the ocean for Lotus overall too.

LotusOmega375D

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182 months

Friday 8th November 2024
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Probably don’t want to get stung for the £15k per car ZEV fine. Probably makes far more financial sense to rein back production and reduce the wage bill. Ridiculous situation for everyone.

Frimley111R

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LotusOmega375D said:
Probably don’t want to get stung for the £15k per car ZEV fine. Probably makes far more financial sense to rein back production and reduce the wage bill. Ridiculous situation for everyone.
I doubt they have to worry, most of their sales have been the Eletre. There's only the Emira that's ICE and the Emeya is here now too

LotusOmega375D

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Oh yeah. Forgot about those! They just don’t figure as a Lotus in my mind!

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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252 months

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And just to add to the malaise, Nissan are canning 9000 workers globally.

1% of the population want us to walk everywhere so the other 99% has to suffer.

andrew

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221 months

Friday 8th November 2024
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yet more ev based ridiculousness
sad times

Nomme de Plum

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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
And just to add to the malaise, Nissan are canning 9000 workers globally.

1% of the population want us to walk everywhere so the other 99% has to suffer.
9000 workers is just 7% and 3% are natural wastage anyway so just 4% which represents progress in manufacturing and the the less complex nature of EVs.

Look at latest SMMT figures. EV sales of both new and used EVs are strong. Only a few PH neanderthals have a problem with this.


Nomme de Plum

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For the record Lotus have never been a successful car manufacturer and i can say the as an owner of an S1 back in 1973 and S1 Exige 30 odd years later. They built toy cars for people with a few bob to spare. Nothing more nothing less.

GT9

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andrew said:
yet more ev based ridiculousness
sad times
This is a China vs ROW problem, not EV vs ICE.
It's about costs and margins.
Look at the raw numbers, more than 80% of new cars sold in the UK are still ICE or hybrid and 2024 sales so far as pretty much the same as last year.

FaustF

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Bet there won't be any in China.

It will end up just like MG, a tiny tiny UK contingent and asset stripped to be a Chinese Company totally.

Nomme de Plum

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FaustF said:
Bet there won't be any in China.

It will end up just like MG, a tiny tiny UK contingent and asset stripped to be a Chinese Company totally.
Do you think it may be a good idea to look at EV manufacturing and sales in China before you make such an un-evidenced assertion?

theicemario

1,570 posts

104 months

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Very sad news. Here's hoping sales of Emira can start to pick up

GianiCakes

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102 months

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Nomme de Plum said:
For the record Lotus have never been a successful car manufacturer and i can say the as an owner of an S1 back in 1973 and S1 Exige 30 odd years later. They built toy cars for people with a few bob to spare. Nothing more nothing less.
Hard to disagree with that. The Emira was looking very promising at first but then they seemed to completely fumble that as well. Nobody needs Lotus as a manufacturer of a large electric SUV and it makes no sense from a branding point of view. As far as I know there’s still a successful engineering consulting operation?

Nomme de Plum

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GianiCakes said:
Nomme de Plum said:
For the record Lotus have never been a successful car manufacturer and i can say the as an owner of an S1 back in 1973 and S1 Exige 30 odd years later. They built toy cars for people with a few bob to spare. Nothing more nothing less.
Hard to disagree with that. The Emira was looking very promising at first but then they seemed to completely fumble that as well. Nobody needs Lotus as a manufacturer of a large electric SUV and it makes no sense from a branding point of view. As far as I know there’s still a successful engineering consulting operation?
I got my passion for Lotus back in 73. Super little car but Chapman sold them to fund his motorsport. They never really moved on like Porsche.

My S1 Exige was spectacular but too hard core for most. Mazda got it right with the Mx5 . Fun and useable. PH poster fanatics represent a minuscule car buying population. No manufacturer in their right mind should take any notice of them unless they wish to die rapidly.

Slightly off topic but my 14 year old Granddaughter received her driving licence back in May. iPad style and voice controls are just the norm for her generation. Her first car will be a 4Wd EV Tesla or maybe an Hyundai. We old gets just need to come to terms with the future.



FaustF

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Nomme de Plum said:
FaustF said:
Bet there won't be any in China.

It will end up just like MG, a tiny tiny UK contingent and asset stripped to be a Chinese Company totally.
Do you think it may be a good idea to look at EV manufacturing and sales in China before you make such an un-evidenced assertion?
An *assertion* is unevidenced.

And as it's an assertion on the future direction of Lotus in my view I won't provide evidence, given it is not evidenced yet.

Hope that helps.

Andy83n

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Nomme de Plum

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FaustF said:
Nomme de Plum said:
FaustF said:
Bet there won't be any in China.

It will end up just like MG, a tiny tiny UK contingent and asset stripped to be a Chinese Company totally.
Do you think it may be a good idea to look at EV manufacturing and sales in China before you make such an un-evidenced assertion?
An *assertion* is unevidenced.

And as it's an assertion on the future direction of Lotus in my view I won't provide evidence, given it is not evidenced yet.

Hope that helps.
As an engineer you are incorrect. Assertions are based on facts or beliefs so unless you belief is based on faith an assertion has a basis in fact.

Hope that helps.

anonymous-user

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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
1% of the population want us to walk everywhere
Do they?

Nomme de Plum

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nismo48

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Sad times indeed frown