RE: Porsche launches new 480hp 911 Carrera S
RE: Porsche launches new 480hp 911 Carrera S
Thursday 9th January 2025

Porsche launches new 480hp 911 Carrera S

Better late than never? You betcha...


The Carrera S, a stalwart of the 911 lineup since the 993, was conspicuous for its absence when Porsche launched the current generation model last year. Probably this was done to ensure that the newly electrified 541hp GTS drew all the early-adopter attention - and that makes sense, because with 480hp from the familiar 3.0-litre twin-turbocharged flat-six (the same peak output that featured in the previous, non-electrified GTS) the newest rear-drive Carrera S brings an awful lot to the table. 

Its maker calls it ’the most dynamic Porsche 911 Carrera S ever’, which is obviously a reference to its extra power - 30hp more than you got from its predecessor - but also alludes to the standard fitment of Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (i.e. the much cleverer, electronically-controlled rear diff) and staggered 20-/21-inch wheels sizes. The step-up in capability from the entry-level Carrera, equipped with its lowlier 394hp, is meant (as ever) to seem self-evident. 

Certainly, you will notice it in a straight line. Few people would complain about the 3.9 seconds the current Carrera takes to arrive at 62mph with the same eight-speed PDK, but 3.3 seconds - essentially equivalent to the 992.1 GTS - is a significant improvement in acceleration. Interestingly, this has been achieved without the 420lb ft of torque that was supplied to the previous GTS’s rear wheels; the 992.2 Carrera S makes do with 391lb ft - 60lb ft more than the Carrera, the difference attributed to ‘new turbochargers and extensively optimised charge-air cooling, among other things’. Like the old GTS, it will nudge 194mph given a long enough runup. 

This idea of stepping into shoes vacated by a model that now has ’T-Hybrid’ in its designation is augmented by the presence of the GTS’s upgraded brakes, measuring 408mm at the front and 380mm on the rear and identifiable thanks to red brake calipers. Naturally, Porsche keeps some choice items on the option list: ceramic stoppers inevitably require a tick, as does the PASM sports suspension with its 10mm lower ride height and rear-wheel steering (a standard feature of the harder-driving Carrera T). 

Inside, you get black leather as standard, which covers the seats, headrests, dashboard, door panels and (no-cost optional) folding rear seats - and will extend to the glove box lid, side panels and seat base if you request it. The Cabriolet, launched alongside the coupe, gets back seats by default. Externally, alongside the larger Carrera S wheels, the new model adds the silver tailpipes of its standard sports exhaust system, and the body is based on the design of the previous 911 Turbo. So expect plenty of physical presence.

This is appropriate when you consider the increasingly punchy numbers that Porsche attaches to any 911 derivative these days. With the basic Carrera kicking off at £99,800 and the new (exclusively manual) Carrera T clocking in at £111,300, there was only one place for the rear-drive Carrera S to go: accordingly, £119,800 buys you the coupe, £129,800, the Cabriolet. Still, that’s a useful saving over the £132,600 GTS, and it offers a persuasive haven for anyone still not sold on the idea of a (very lightly) hybridised 911. Both variants are available to order now. 


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foxhounduk

Original Poster:

703 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Still the benchmark sport car.

Twinair

1,026 posts

171 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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I should think it’s a useful upgrade in power - but also a useful uptick in price (plus the options - of course).

Trouble is, where can you use that performance on the road? All that data is going ‘somewhere’ and being sold to ‘someone’.

You cannot keep your hooning anonymous anymore.

Neilbolts.

1,256 posts

135 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Yep that’s very nice, I always turn my head when I see one out and about , amazing road presence, would prefer it if it was a little narrower, for a B road blast

MrHooky

238 posts

171 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Lovely car and properly fast now too.

Just went on the configurator and was 'sensible' with metallic paint, same size wheels but the RS spyder, sports seats, Matrix lights, Bose and a £500 leather choice to spruce it up insude and it's pushing £130k.

Standard Carrera nicely specced probably the better choice given the 20% hike in price to get to an S now.

bigyoungdave

329 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Lovely.

I know these were never cheap but well over 6 figures does raise an eyebrow. I'm not saying it's not worth it but to me the attraction of a 911 used to be that you can use it as a daily. I'd really hate leaving a car this valuable at the train station or the local multi storey though, and would wince driving it along back roads

Sorry I'm being miserable, apart from the price it is superb !

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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The Porsche range is weird, in that the cheaper you go down the range, the more desirable they are...

The bewinged things leave me cold, but I would quite happily have a basic Carrera.

Less is more

s94wht

2,217 posts

88 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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I would very much like one of these. Very much. Santa didn't bring me one frown Is there a manual option or is it PDK only?

daveco

4,400 posts

236 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Inertiatic said:
The Porsche range is weird, in that the cheaper you go down the range, the more desirable they are...

The bewinged things leave me cold, but I would quite happily have a basic Carrera.

Less is more
A base 996 is pretty much all the 911 you'll ever need imo.



ITP

2,714 posts

226 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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s94wht said:
I would very much like one of these. Very much. Santa didn't bring me one frown Is there a manual option or is it PDK only?
I think if you want a manual now it’s a T of a GT car only. Standard carrera and this S, GTS and turbos all auto only.

bobj42

111 posts

40 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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992s always look a bit fat to my eyes.

jmcc500

676 posts

247 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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More power than an F40!

To my mind, the 300kg extra weight over that car seems surprisingly little considering the extra seats, safety equipment, luxury etc. Quite impressive.

ManyMotors

1,098 posts

127 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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I like 911s but they just don't have the excitement of offerings from Ferrari, McLaren or even Aston Martin. Of course those brands are more expensive though Porsche should offer something to compete with performance and flair. A few years ago, there was the '960' (it had some other names too) that was set to be a Ferrari Fighter (FEFI, with a mid-engined quad turbo flat eight) and some dealers were taking deposits on them. Then Dieselgate hit VW and all plans changed.

Porsche 911 sales are up over the prior year so maybe there isn't a problem. And Porsche needs to pump out whatever they can as all of Germany figures out its economic issues. But it would benefit the industry if Porsche took some risks with a new high-performance offering.

breadvan

2,120 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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All the 911 you need while early adopters beta test the GTS.

stuckmojo

4,055 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Lovely. Expensive but lovely

Prohibiting

1,918 posts

147 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Neilbolts. said:
Yep that’s very nice, I always turn my head when I see one out and about , amazing road presence, would prefer it if it was a little narrower, for a B road blast
That’s what the Cayman is for.

JJ55

772 posts

144 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Really lovely car but I can’t get over the price. The 911 base & s always seem a 65-75k car new price to me.

erics

2,717 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Zzzzz, when's the GTX 'Dakar' package out?

Quickmoose

5,327 posts

152 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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For me:
Cayman/Boxster - actual sports car
911 - sports-GT car
GT products - super-sports car
Panamera - GT car
Taycan/Macan/Cayenne - family guff

Out of them, only the Cayman/Boxster and T and GT products appeal as the rest are fat, turbo'd, auto'd or worse.

There, you should all know exactly how old I am now.

Not keen on the 992 aesthetic either, the lights are over simplified, the front bumper and bonnet are over simplified and the rear bumper just 'fat', the interior whilst smart, is not a patch on what it once was....

991 was better...

Terminator X

20,555 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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Plus £10k for wind in the hair!

TX.

Water Fairy

6,589 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th January 2025
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911's are all a bit too 'phat' for me these days. A properly sorted Cayman is all the pork I would ever need.

I can see the appeal of course.