RE: Alpina D5 (F10) | Spotted
RE: Alpina D5 (F10) | Spotted
Monday 13th January 2025

Alpina D5 (F10) | Spotted

350hp and 50mpg - what more do you need to know?


It’ll surely come as little surprise to find that diesel’s decline continued in 2024. In the last month of the year, just 7,060 found homes, compared to almost 60,000 petrol powered cars and more than 40,000 purely electric vehicles. For the year, 123,104 diesels were sold in the UK, down almost 20,000 (and 13.6 per cent) on 2023’s 142,434. Battery electric vehicles and hybrids were all up; petrol decreased as well, but only by four per cent, still with more than a million sold. 

Does it matter too much? Probably not. Petrols have become a lot like diesels, in truth, torquier and more efficient than ever even when they don’t have hybrid assistance. If an electric car suits your use case, it’s hard to imagine a diesel will do it better. But there’s one class of car that perfectly suited the black pump: a large Alpina.

As much is clear by the fact that a new D3 S, D4 S and XD3 remain available, but the entire line up is on borrowed time, really, given BMW will assume full control at the start of next year. Where an M car was always about fizzy, frenetic petrol power, the more relaxed, subdued aura of an Alpina matched with diesel fantastically. Still does. The torque, comfort and efficiency makes for unrivalled long distance cars. 

While Alpina’s first diesel was the E39 5 Series-based D10, it was the four-cylinder, E90 era 3 Series that really brought a new audience to the brand. It was that car’s replacement, however, where Alpina’s mighty diesel era really began. The F30 D3 BiTurbo was little short of glorious: stupendously fast, a joy to drive and a pleasure to use. 

It was such a mighty thing, in fact, that sometimes it’s forgotten that the same N57-based diesel powerhouse also ended up in two generations of Alpina D5 as well - eventually with three (!) turbos. Back when PH tested the F10 in 2012, it was declared ‘an absolute gem’. ‘Even if it did have a rival’, Riggers concluded, ‘it would be hard to imagine it being anything other than top of its class.’

This particular D5 is also from 2012, and appears to have been loved in a way that Alpinas so often are; they don’t really register on the average enthusiast’s radar, appealing only to the most dedicated. Despite its mighty mile munching ability, this one has covered fewer than 50,000 miles, all with the same owner from new. Who has only ever had their Alpina serviced and MOT’d at a BMW main dealer. Of course. 

D5 number 80 certainly looks exceptional as it approaches its teenage years (it was registered new in November 2012), the wonderful Ivory leather showing barely any signs of wear and the trademark wheels as good as ever. Indeed it could be said the F10 era of 5 Series is starting to age quite nicely; what was a tad plain in period now seems subtle and sophisticated. 

Priced from £55,950 new before options, this Alpina D5 is now for sale at £25k. Which, yes, buys all manner of BMW-badged alternatives, from smaller D3s to firebreathing M5s of this generation. But for the ultimate in continent crushing comfort, there surely can’t be much better. And it’s extremely rare to boot. 


SPECIFICATION | ALPINA D5 BITURBO

Engine: 2,993cc straight-six, twin-turbo
Transmission: 8-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 350@4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@1,500-3,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.1 sec
Top speed: 171mph
MPG: 47.9 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 155g/km
Year registered: 2012
Recorded mileage: 48,923
Price new: £55,950 (before options)
Yours for: £24,995

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Maccmike8

Original Poster:

1,603 posts

83 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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In estate form. The perfect daily.

Bloody ULEZ

72 posts

47 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I'd love to be wrong, as I agree, but I don't think there was an F10 D5 Touring

JW95

18 posts

44 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Nice, but is it worth >£10k more than a similar age of 535d...? I'm not sure. Seems a lot for an extra 35hp & some Alpina bits.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Definitely needs more boot.

I occasionally check on used Alpina prices and always come away a bit disappointed because they still cost a lot even as 20 year old cars, D3 aside.

I guess you'd have to really, really want one over the equivalent regular BMW version.

cerb4.5lee

44,509 posts

209 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I really liked this engine(or at least a variant of it) in the F13 640d I had. I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.

stuart100

1,169 posts

86 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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i've never understood Alpina prices over the equivalent M car. I know they are supposed to be great in a different way, and demand vs supply causes issues. But I would rather just take the M when it comes to petrol cars.

Maxus

1,242 posts

210 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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cerb4.5lee said:
I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.
You're not and we are in good company https://youtu.be/XKijMDIeVEs?si=0ATlcSOzW0D4yGCK

As a daily driver, a big diesel is quite compelling - great economy and big torque making them relaxingly rapid.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,740 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I've owned a couple of B10 E39 Alpinas way back and they were lovely mile munching cars ( before diesels took over that role ). The great think about Alpinas then was that they depreciated hugely, so you could pick up any 3 year old car at half price without too many miles, even from a BMW dealer.

They were great bargains then - sadly not now from the looks of things.

Looking for a second-hand 3 to 5 yr old diesel 3 or 5 series now - it really is noticeable how few there are and how everyone has bought hybrids instead....

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Maxus said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.
You're not and we are in good company https://youtu.be/XKijMDIeVEs?si=0ATlcSOzW0D4yGCK

As a daily driver, a big diesel is quite compelling - great economy and big torque making them relaxingly rapid.
Both of which EVs do better.

It's only range that they've got going for them really.

Snubs

1,422 posts

168 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Cracking car I'm sure. I had the 530d F10 and loved it, but by the time i sold it I wished I'd bought a 535d for that extra bit of grunt but there weren't many up for sale at the time. As has been said above, it quite a big premium you're paying for the Alpina upgrades.

I'd definitely have the saloon over the estate. Looks much better and the boot is still cavernous. Mine didn't have split fold rear seats or a ski hatch though, which was a minor bummer.

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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stuart100 said:
i've never understood Alpina prices over the equivalent M car. I know they are supposed to be great in a different way, and demand vs supply causes issues. But I would rather just take the M when it comes to petrol cars.
BMW M cars and their equivalent petrol Alpinas are very different cars indeed.

MikeMi-4

83 posts

36 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I still love diesel cars and feel a bit sad that they're on the decline as I still think there is a place for them. Although I understand why some people would say Alpina's are not worth the extra money over the equivalent BMW, I'd say they're worth every penny! Alpina's are just more special, they're limited in numbers, use better quality leather and stitching on the interiors and the steering wheels are always perfect in feel. I think if you owned one you'd probably feel as if you're part of a very special club. Also, whilst they are more expensive to buy they never depreciate as much as their rivals. Definitely a car I want to own (and keep).

fflump

3,490 posts

67 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Snubs said:
Cracking car I'm sure. I had the 530d F10 and loved it, but by the time i sold it I wished I'd bought a 535d for that extra bit of grunt but there weren't many up for sale at the time. As has been said above, it quite a big premium you're paying for the Alpina upgrades.

I'd definitely have the saloon over the estate. Looks much better and the boot is still cavernous. Mine didn't have split fold rear seats or a ski hatch though, which was a minor bummer.
Yes I do like Alpinas but if I was spending my money on one I'd question their premium over a 530d or 535d especially as both BMWs are a remap away from the D5 power levels.

Picanto_superleggera

176 posts

40 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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fflump said:
Snubs said:
Cracking car I'm sure. I had the 530d F10 and loved it, but by the time i sold it I wished I'd bought a 535d for that extra bit of grunt but there weren't many up for sale at the time. As has been said above, it quite a big premium you're paying for the Alpina upgrades.

I'd definitely have the saloon over the estate. Looks much better and the boot is still cavernous. Mine didn't have split fold rear seats or a ski hatch though, which was a minor bummer.
Yes I do like Alpinas but if I was spending my money on one I'd question their premium over a 530d or 535d especially as both BMWs are a remap away from the D5 power levels.
Generally Alpina upgrades are a bit more than a remap, often focussing on slightly tedious things like cooling, but also some upgraded internals (not sure if the diesels have different pistons and crank, but I am sure the petrol B5 does) As a result can run harder for longer than the original BMW equivalent.

Robmarriott

2,969 posts

187 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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ChocolateFrog said:
Maxus said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.
You're not and we are in good company https://youtu.be/XKijMDIeVEs?si=0ATlcSOzW0D4yGCK

As a daily driver, a big diesel is quite compelling - great economy and big torque making them relaxingly rapid.
Both of which EVs do better.

It's only range that they've got going for them really.
Same with trains but nobody mentions them in every thread.

bigyoungdave

329 posts

56 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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ChocolateFrog said:
Maxus said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.
You're not and we are in good company https://youtu.be/XKijMDIeVEs?si=0ATlcSOzW0D4yGCK

As a daily driver, a big diesel is quite compelling - great economy and big torque making them relaxingly rapid.
Both of which EVs do better.

It's only range that they've got going for them really.
And the fact that this is a 12 year old car that most likely drives just as well as the day it left the showroom, and if properly maintained will keep going for a good while yet.

cerb4.5lee

44,509 posts

209 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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ChocolateFrog said:
Maxus said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I can appreciate a torquey 6 cylinder diesel engine for sure, but I'm probably almost on my own with that nowadays though.
You're not and we are in good company https://youtu.be/XKijMDIeVEs?si=0ATlcSOzW0D4yGCK

As a daily driver, a big diesel is quite compelling - great economy and big torque making them relaxingly rapid.
Both of which EVs do better.
Not if you enjoy using an engine and a gearbox though for me. It is the little things that count in my opinion. However I will say that the NVH from an EV could be it's trump card though, but then the downside is that you'll hear more wind and tyre noise though. So there is always a trade off I reckon when it comes to cars, and it is a shame that there isn't such a thing as a perfect car really, and that probably explains why I have 4 cars though in fairness, but still no EV in that group yet though. The time will probably come eventually though.

LotusOmega375D

9,338 posts

182 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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Sorry but I can’t see beyond Cain Dingle’s nasty matt black diesel 5 series…


cerb4.5lee

44,509 posts

209 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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LotusOmega375D said:
Sorry but I can’t see beyond Cain Dingle’s nasty matt black diesel 5 series…

The only thing nasty about that...is that it is the SE model for me. M Sport for the win(apart from the rock hard ride!). biggrin

Scott-R

186 posts

134 months

Monday 13th January 2025
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I’ve never really understood the appeal of a diesel Alpina. I understand people expect to cover great distances quickly in them, but I always considered the petrol models to be the real show, almost like M-lites are to full fat M cars.

I’ve had a 6 cylinder BMW diesel, and they’re good engines, but they still smell funny and sound like a tractor at idle. I can’t imagine Bryan Ferry jumping in a derv Alpina and sitting for 20 seconds waiting for the glow plugs to warm up before he can fire it up