RE: Audi RS4 Avant (B5) | Spotted
RE: Audi RS4 Avant (B5) | Spotted
Thursday 16th January 2025

Audi RS4 Avant (B5) | Spotted

Has the B5 been in the shadow of its V8s successors for too long? Here are 381 reasons why it's well worth a look


Sometimes, a carmaker gets an engine so right that it becomes synonymous with the model it featured in. The original BMW M3, for instance, packed a race-bred 2.0-litre, but along came the S50 and S54 in the E30 and E46 respectively, and suddenly, straight-six power became the defining engine of M’s 3er. Then there’s the first AMG C-Class, originally offered with a 3.6-litre straight-six but ever since the 55 landed Merc’s hottest C has traditionally been driven by a big, rumbly V8. (Part of the reason the current four-cylinder hybrid has fallen so spectacularly on its face.) 

Perhaps it’s a German performance car thing, because it’s a similar story for the Audi RS4, like the one we have here. A V8 seemed like the perfect powertrain when it was introduced on the B7 and improved for the B8, and made the move to a twin-turbo V6 for the B9 seem a touch underwhelming, not least because it didn’t move the power needle an inch. But, as you know, the original B5 RS4 came with a 2.7-litre V6 - just 200cc smaller than the current car - with a brace of turbocharges and 381hp on tap. That’s more than what today’s S4 can muster, and must have felt positively nuclear back in 2000.

While the RS2 set the blueprint for the fast Audi wagon, the B5 RS4 was the first super Avant designed and built in-house (well, mostly). No longer needing Porsche assistance with development, Audi set about reworking the S4’s engine (with a bit of help from Cosworth Technology), upgrading the 90-degree V6 with an aluminium head, beefier conrods, two BorgWarner turbos, side-mounted intercoolers and a new exhaust system. The brakes were Audi’s own, with chunky 360mm discs and dual-piston callipers up front and the chassis was inevitably firmed up. 

Clearly, it was quite a bit wider than the S4. Humungous arches were needed to cater for the near 70mm increase in track width, while deeper front and rear bumpers not only added to the Avant’s meanness, but also made the RS4 a good deal more slippery than the S4. Just what you need while barrelling down the autobahn at a (limited) 155mph. It was said to be good in the twisty stuff, too, with a trick torque-sensing centre differential and 50:50 weight distribution - depending on boot contents.

It was a very impressive car, but the B5 doesn’t get the attention it deserves because it followed the trend-setting RS2 and was succeeded by the V8-powered B7, which is probably the best RS4 there’s been. But it’s hard not to get excited about B5s when cars like this exist. It’s finished in the Nogaro Blue, which immediately hands it bonus points, and comes with white leather Recaros that look oh-so comfy. From head to toe, it looks utterly sublime.

As it should, given that it hasn’t been driven all that much in recent years. Much of the 59,679 miles covered were completed during the first 11 years of its life and it’s been used more sparingly since. That being said, it’s recently been put through a major service, including new belts, and the seller claims it comes with an advisory-free MOT. The price? £46,995, which is on the steep side for a B5 RS4, especially as you could grab this example (albeit with double the mileage) for less than half the price. But that car isn’t Nogaro Blue, nor is it bone stock like the one we have here. Does that account for the £25k premium? We’ll let you decide on that one...


SPECIFICATION | AUDI RS4 (B5)

Engine: 2,671cc V6, twin turbocharged
Transmission: six-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 381@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@2,500-6,000rpm
MPG: 23.4
CO2: 288g/km
Year registered: 2001
Recorded mileage: 59,679
Price new: £46,500
Yours for: £46,995

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w1bbles

Original Poster:

1,355 posts

165 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Bone stock? Rims, muffler and sway bars too?

T1berious

2,669 posts

184 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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381 reasons you say? Hmmmm, I can think if 47k reasons to look elsewhere....

wistec1

794 posts

70 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Despite the attraction it's a no and the RS2 Thankyou.

Resolutionary

1,533 posts

200 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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My absolute all time favourite vehicle. I have a love affair with the B5 as a shape, but never got close to the generations pinnacle.
Dream garage material.

Jack4688

92 posts

182 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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So many cars I’ve been looking at lately (not that I could afford this one though) have been ruined by being the right colour paint work and the wrong colour interior frown

w1bbles said:
Bone stock? Rims, muffler and sway bars too?
Yes, stock. What WHEELS, SILENCER and ANTI-ROLL BAR were you expecting to see? biggrin

fflump

3,490 posts

67 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Are these things really collectible? Not sure they’re old enough, special enough or rare enough. I presume RS2s are even more expensive?

smilo996

3,822 posts

199 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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First "proper" car I owned, after a string of Polo's. It was breathed on by a tooner & MTM for a reliable 450bhp and indicated 200mph on zee autobahn. As happy at 60mph as 160mph. The only thing the RS2 has going for it is built by Porschar. Otherwise, it is put in the shade by both the B5 and B7.
Prefer B7 in looks and engine. The later models were the size of gen 1 RS6's, a shame because was perfectly big enough.
That seems like a lot of wedge.

GreatScott2016

2,507 posts

117 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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T1berious said:
381 reasons you say? Hmmmm, I can think if 47k reasons to look elsewhere....
Yep, I’m with you on that. It’s a lovely thing, simple yet functional interior coupled with an exterior that gives the car real presence (although the colour alone will achieve that) smile. I can see the attraction, but not at £47k frown

mcpoot

1,599 posts

136 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Jack4688 said:
So many cars I’ve been looking at lately (not that I could afford this one though) have been ruined by being the right colour paint work and the wrong colour interior frown

w1bbles said:
Bone stock? Rims, muffler and sway bars too?
Yes, stock. What WHEELS, SILENCER and ANTI-ROLL BAR were you expecting to see? biggrin
I'm guessing bone stock is an American expression so w1bbles is using American terms as a joke. Missed out on fenders, trunk and hood though. smile

Quhet

2,928 posts

175 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Shouldn't this have the silver wing mirror caps or did this become a thing later on?

The colour is obviously iconic but these B5s are better suited to the yellow they did IMO

Bloody ULEZ

72 posts

47 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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"The original BMW M3, for instance, packed a race-bred 2.0-litre, but along came the S50 and S54 in the E30 and E46 respectively, and suddenly, straight-six power became the defining engine of M’s 3er".

The original M3 actually was the E30, and had a 2.3-litre S14B23 engine (some of the later specials excepted).

akashzimzimma

274 posts

106 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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50:50 weight distribution? no chance, its actually 60;40 front : rear. Seems like your figure was just pulled out of the sky. The V8 B7 RS4 Avant is around 62;38 front rear.
Also the wider RS4 body is not more slippery than the S4, as it has a higher Cd and a large frontal area.

Mark-C

7,601 posts

234 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Bloody ULEZ said:
"The original BMW M3, for instance, packed a race-bred 2.0-litre, but along came the S50 and S54 in the E30 and E46 respectively, and suddenly, straight-six power became the defining engine of M’s 3er".

The original M3 actually was the E30, and had a 2.3-litre S14B23 engine (some of the later specials excepted).
The E30 in the text should be E36 ...

Nice car but not at that money for me.

Motormouth88

782 posts

89 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Such silly money, yes it’s lovely but not that lovely

FlukePlay

1,189 posts

174 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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A young (22!) colleague at work had one of these when they were new an I went with him to an Audi open day for owners of this model. I think it was at Millbrook.The idea was to allay owners' fears about the wheels which were prone to crack or warp even on small potholes. They were replacing them hand over fist until a recall to replace them all with wheels made from a more durable alloy.

Lovely cars but the S8 used to take us for passenger rides sideways on a track was the highlight, gave us serious Ronin vibes.

bigyoungdave

329 posts

56 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Nice, but not 47k nice. Maybe at 15k it would be worth it for some old school thrills. But at 47k you'd have to be a die hard enthusiast to buy it over a lightly used modern RS4

carinaman

25,167 posts

201 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Standard rims?

Weren't the originals prone to buckling and cracking?

I don't know if the official fix was stronger rims of the same design?

DBA086

141 posts

82 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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carinaman said:
Standard rims?

Weren't the originals prone to buckling and cracking?

I don't know if the official fix was stronger rims of the same design?
Yep - the replacement rims were the same design, just “stronger”.

I had one years ago and loved it - it had a real hot rod vibe- although the B7 I owned a few years afterwards was a much better car on every measure.

The only practicality issue with the early generation RS4s is the rear legroom - they seem to be much more compromised than the equivalent BMW.


Edited by DBA086 on Friday 17th January 10:48


Edited by DBA086 on Friday 17th January 10:49

carinaman

25,167 posts

201 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Does the featured car have the correct airbag cover? I am not enough of an Audi beard to know.





I really like that style of airbag cover.

I've just noticed I posted two different airbag covers. One has shorter spokes for the Tiptronic up/down buttons.