RE: Superb Dowsetts Tipo184 for sale
RE: Superb Dowsetts Tipo184 for sale
Tuesday 21st January 2025

Superb Dowsetts Tipo184 for sale

The MX-5 made into a historic GP racer has a three-year wait - here's one available right now


Now more than 35 years into the Mazda MX-5 story, we’ve pretty much seen it all when it comes to modification and optimisation. For a long time there have been supercharged and turbocharged cars, Flyin’ Miata for a long time plied a nice trade in V8s, and closer to home Rocketeer has combined MX-5 with Ford V6 very nicely indeed. That’s on top of those cars now being restored to concours standard, as the little Mazda is now the classic, simple, pretty roadster we remember from many moons ago. 

It is to Dowsetts Classics Cars’ credit, then, that they found something very different to do with the MX-5 fundamentals. Those with a good memory might remember Mike Duff’s story in 2021 on the Tipo184, an evocation of the Alfa 158 from the inter-war period; it was a spectacular thing, a lovely celebration of a glorious Grand Prix era, and it used the Mk2 MX-5 as its base. Well, the running gear at least; the chassis was obviously unique, albeit with Mazda subframes, arms and hubs, the suspension was by coilovers and the steering unassisted. The idea was simple, and laudable: low mass, low power, low grip, and a huge amount of fun. That could, in theory, be built at home. 

Back then the plan was for a race series, Tipos going wheel to wheel on Britain’s circuits like the world was still in black and white and racing drivers had great moustaches. Another great idea, though we’ve not heard much more yet. That being said, there’s a three-year wait for a new, road-going Tipo184, so something’s going right. In a world of million-dollar restomods, something that looks this evocative but could be built at home from a cheap donor car sounds fantastic. Naturally, a PHer is building a Tipo184 in their garage. 

But this one offers a chance to skip the queue - and any labour. It’s said to be one of just two Tipos currently road registered, and comes with an extraordinary spec. The paint is an actual Alfa colour from the time, with silver underneath so that the red could be rubbed down for a ‘patina spec’; that extended as far as recreating areas of burnt paint where fuel would have spilt. The Tipo looks like it’s enjoyed an illustrious race career, yet has only covered 300 road miles. 

Similarly, while still powered by the humble Mazda four-pot, it’s been stripped, cleaned and rebuilt, so it’s essentially a new motor. Perhaps it still seems a tad incongruous under the bonnet of such a car, complete with the eight-branch manifold tribute that has half blanked out, but the little 1.8 itself has never looked so good. With just 700kg to shift and crossply tyres, it promises to be a hoot to drive. 

The advert for this one suggests that £90,000 has been spent over three years to get the Tipo184 into the condition it is now. So clearly somebody was properly invested, in every sense, to make it the best possible. But now it’s on offer for someone else to enjoy, and what a summer sports car it’ll surely be. At £70k, yes, but little else will get the same attention, interest and affection. Perhaps one day it could be raced, too. And there should always be a decent supply of spare parts…


See the original advert here

 

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supacool1

Original Poster:

738 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Cool.

Blackpuddin

19,405 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Loving that a lot.

Portofino

5,343 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Very nice! Great for a run out to the country pub.

Blackpuddin

19,405 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Portofino said:
Very nice! Great for a run out to the country pub.
On your own though! wink

trails

7,209 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Not sure about the grill. It's a bit big hehe

CountyAFC

5,999 posts

32 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Looks fantastic until you see the dials. Must be a better alternative.

tr3a

626 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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CountyAFC said:
Looks fantastic until you see the dials.
And the plethora of allen bolts, and the pop rivets.

BrettMRC

5,995 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Yes please! biggrin

ex-devonpaul

1,734 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Blackpuddin said:
Portofino said:
Very nice! Great for a run out to the country pub.
On your own though! wink
They also have a Proteus C-type for sale if that's a problem smile

Been trying to persuade the Mrs towards a McLaren 570GT. I reckon if I take her to see this first she'll think the Mc is sensible smile

kambites

71,458 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Hmm, no mention of it coming with the mudguards or lights which would be required to make it road legal?

I guess they must exist in order for it to have got through an IVA, but it seems odd not to mention them and IMO it makes the seller come across as rather dishonest to claim road legality while showing pictures of a car which is clearly not road legal as pictured.


Lovely thing though.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st January 11:48

Blackpuddin

19,405 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Probably best not to wear an Eric Morecambe-type silk scarf while driving it.

Blackpuddin

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234 months

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tr3a said:
CountyAFC said:
Looks fantastic until you see the dials.
And the plethora of allen bolts, and the pop rivets.
That's part of the appeal for me, it would look weird with a modern, invisible-fastener dash.

CoupeKid

988 posts

94 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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kambites said:
Hmm, no mention of it coming with the mudguards or lights which would be required to make it road legal?

I guess they must exist in order for it to have got through an IVA, but it seems odd not to mention them and IMO it makes the seller come across as rather dishonest to claim road legality while showing pictures of a car which is clearly not road legal as pictured.


Lovely thing though.
I hate to put a downer on the Tipo 184 but when the mudguards, lights and number plates have been added the car does look a lot more dowdy than in the unencumbered state.

Personally I think it's brilliant that these exist and are proving so popular.

Hopefully this will be the incentive for Tricky360 to update his build thread.

Iamnotkloot

1,903 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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It's not perfect but it looks a lot of fun

Blackpuddin

19,405 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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CoupeKid said:
kambites said:
Hmm, no mention of it coming with the mudguards or lights which would be required to make it road legal?

I guess they must exist in order for it to have got through an IVA, but it seems odd not to mention them and IMO it makes the seller come across as rather dishonest to claim road legality while showing pictures of a car which is clearly not road legal as pictured.


Lovely thing though.
I hate to put a downer on the Tipo 184 but when the mudguards, lights and number plates have been added the car does look a lot more dowdy than in the unencumbered state.

Personally I think it's brilliant that these exist and are proving so popular.

Hopefully this will be the incentive for Tricky360 to update his build thread.
With off-road bikes you can have lights-free 'daytime only' MOT status, wonder if you could have similar here?

ThomW

1,943 posts

57 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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CoupeKid said:
I hate to put a downer on the Tipo 184 but when the mudguards, lights and number plates have been added the car does look a lot more dowdy than in the unencumbered state.

Personally I think it's brilliant that these exist and are proving so popular.

Hopefully this will be the incentive for Tricky360 to update his build thread.
It does alter the look somewhat...




For me the biggest issue is the scale. It looks great until you see it next to other cars. It looks like it should be small, lithe etc but it's a big thing in reality. Much like the Hyundai Ioniq5 rofl

9000rpm

60 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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The fake exhaust manifold where some headers go to nothing at all spoils it for me.

sideways man

1,669 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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Fantastic thing, I’d love a go.

smilo996

3,819 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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How good is that. Likely to be treated like owners of Morgan three wheelers but who cares, looks really good. Be nice to make over the engine as well but that seems like a lot of fun for the money

Matt_T

1,273 posts

103 months

Tuesday 21st January 2025
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For not too much more money (ok, a little more) you can buy something with real provenance...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1729254