RE: Q-car stealth for under £10k | Six of the Best
RE: Q-car stealth for under £10k | Six of the Best
Sunday 2nd March 2025

Q-car gems for under £10k | Six of the Best

Cheap, big-engined sleepers are dead to carmakers. But very much alive and well in the classifieds...


Audi S4, 2007, 74k, £8,500

Generally speaking, shouty, OTT fast cars don’t often get the collective PH juices flowing. Much better, if the forum-based feedback is anything to go by, to speak softly and carry a big stick. Think BMW Alpina rather than BMW M. So that’s what we’re here to celebrate, albeit at a much more modest price point than anything close to new. While it can often seem like £10k doesn’t buy much in 2025, every Q car here has at least three litres and 250hp under the bonnet. So that’s something. This 74,000-mile S4 packs quite a lot more than that, the B6 generation ushering in a monster 4.2 V8 with almost 350hp - barely 20hp less than the new S5 with its clever turbo V6. The sound ought to be magnificent, the resulting speed ample - and the running costs occasionally terrifying - but for £8,500 it’s some lump of ‘bahnstomer. And nobody else will know a thing. 

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Toyota Blade Master G V6, 2008, 78k, £9,450

From one of the usual sleeper suspects - Audi has put big engines in unassuming saloons for yonks - to one of the more peculiar. This is a Toyota Auris with a 3.5-litre engine in it. From the factory. Or, to give this car its full title, the Toyota Blade Master G; made from 2007 until 2012, it employed 2GR-FE power - i.e. the 3.5-litre V6 used in the Lotus Evora - to make for the unlikeliest of front-wheel drive cult heroes. It’s a 280hp, five-door Toyota hatchback, and is therefore perhaps the car best qualified to be on this rundown. Because even a lot of very knowledgeable enthusiasts won’t have a clue. Less than 3,000 are believed to have been sold, all in Japan, though a few have made their way over here. This one looks immaculate for its 78k, like a proper mini Lexus. Ripe for some motorway mischief, certainly. And the engine could surely be supercharged, too…

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Mercedes C350 Sport, 2013, 92k, £9,995

You’ll likely recall that we covered off fast diesels just a few weeks ago, and the response was pretty emphatic - proving (if indeed proof were needed) that there’s plenty of life left in compression ignition engines yet. The W204 C350 is a near-perfect textbook example of why: you got crushing performance from 265hp and 457lb ft of torque, a pleasantly lusty six-cylinder soundtrack and up to 47mpg measured the old-school way. Not for nothing either, but it comes wrapped in one of the last truly timeless mid-sized exec bodies - with the added benefit of wagon-shaped practicality - but doesn’t shout about it like a proper AMG would. Sure, later Merc diesels got even quicker, though you won't find them for under £10k, nor looking quite as lovely as this one does on 18s. An oil-burning Q car for the ages. 

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Volvo V70 T6, 2010, 80k, £10,500

Another car that’s come over from Japan, albeit a rather more familiar prospect for rapid and under the radar: it’s a big Volvo wagon. Or, specifically, an XC70 T6, meaning it packs a 3.0-litre turbocharged straight-six producing somewhere in the region of 300hp; very much at odds with the Antiques Roadshow aesthetic, and all the better for it. Oh sure, it’ll be far less economical than a D5, but we're more concerned with speed than running costs - a T6 is the ultimate Cross Country. As so often happens with Japanese imports, the condition of this Volvo is superb, with a blemish-free MOT stuck on when it arrived in the UK last year and seats that look like they’ve had 15 months of use rather than 15 years. There really is little to rival being swift and Swedish, especially when it’s been well cared for. And there are Polestar kits available.

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Jaguar S-Type R, 2002, 74k, £9,995

Granted, you know it’s an R,  we know it’s an R - it says it’s an R - and perhaps that denies it true Q car status. But does anyone outside the enthusiast echo chamber know that it’s supplied with a 4.2-litre V8? We’d bet not in 2025, given the S-Type is knocking on 25 years old and is hardly outrageous to look at even with the conspicuous exhaust pipes. Most people just see an old Jag - if they look at all. Except when you’re coming past, of course, on a wave made by nearly 400hp and the same again in peak twist. Clearly, you’d need to make your peace with an interior that rivals an Apple Newton for its dated appearance - but the tidiness of this low-mileage example (assuming it gets awarded with an MOT pre-delivery) ought to make up for that. You’re buying a cult classic after all, with phone to match. 

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Volkswagen Passat 3.2 SEL, 2008, 68k, £7,995

Finally, old faithful. VW has produced many sleepers in its time (now would’ve been the perfect week for the classifieds to supply a mega-mile W12-powered Phaeton - alas, it was not to be) but we’re particularly fond of the B6 and B7 Passat for their near-total anonymity. Which is the perfect hiding place for a VR6. It is traditionally the more powerful R36 that captures all the glory, although let’s not forget that VW also opted to shove the slightly smaller 3.2-litre version in the lower-grade SEL. Thus you got 250hp, all-wheel drive and a still very nice burble for many pounds less. Sure, it won’t turn your neck muscles to jelly with a 7.2-second-to-62mph time, but it’ll drive with umpteen times the character of a modern-day hybrid, and draw precisely no one’s attention while doing so. Stealth, the 2008 way. 

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blue al

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

188 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Nice list although someone will be along shortly telling us all none of these are Q cars, a Audi S4 certainly isn’t
For me it’s about other people’s perceptions/expectations and the amount of extra hidden performance that’s available, Perhaps the cygnet is the closest this week, but value also has to be a factor so perhaps not.

Best Q car I’ve ever seen would be the Yeti RS on a Bedford track day… all the performance was visibly deployed, on car that would normally be seen doing 20mph in a 30 zone, before local authorities had even considered fitting signage to enforce that behaviour onto the rest of us…



86wasagoodyear

965 posts

125 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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I still miss my Subaru Legacy mk.4 3.0 estate, which only had to go due to the fuel costs for a long daily commute to a new job. In today's remote-work world it wouldn't have been an issue. Would be top of this list for me.

chirurgus

512 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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My Q car is a de-badged B7 RS4 in black with silver wheels, no tints, comfort seats (better for fitting my kids in the back seats and supremely comfortable for journeys of hundreds of miles), and a standard (round) steering wheel. The wide arches (subtle by today's standards), silver mirror covers and “RS4” script on the rear doors (which wasn’t so easily removed) are the only visual clues. Of course, the gutted back boxes and GruppeM intake mean that all subtly is lost once the engine is runningbiggrin





Edited by chirurgus on Saturday 1st March 07:12

Roboticarm

1,673 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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said:
Does somebody want to tell him.....

Gad-Westy

16,559 posts

242 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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I can’t necessarily imagine it being great to drive but that Toyota is very cool. I know there’ll be some arguments about this but of all on that list, that one says q-car most to me. Rear lights are a bit much though. Are they standard?

normalbloke

8,856 posts

248 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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And we’re off….

Robigus

113 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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86wasagoodyear said:
I still miss my Subaru Legacy mk.4 3.0 estate, which only had to go due to the fuel costs for a long daily commute to a new job. In today's remote-work world it wouldn't have been an issue. Would be top of this list for me.
Robiga collected me from the station in ours last night and commented on just how lovely it is. My aged mother describes it as the best car she’s ever known.

Where we live, it doesn’t draw glances from those whom we would not wish it to.

Last weekend a JLR engineer told me he liked the sound. cloud9

It does like a drink though.

v8notbrave

688 posts

42 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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S4 ad not mentioning chains being done = runaway! (The guides will need replacing and 5k job maybe now with increasing labour rates) Get an older cheaper tax one with chains already done, rest of car bullet proof. Jag looks nice but a 23 yr old Jag must need some tlc and at that money...

Dombilano

1,437 posts

84 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Never knew about the toyota blade runner thing, every day's a school day.
De-badged bmw 340i/440i must be getting close to 10k with moon miles, that'd be my q car choice

cerb4.5lee

44,464 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Dombilano said:
Never knew about the toyota blade runner thing, every day's a school day.
Same.

I often think that electric cars make good Q cars nowadays as well. Most of them are very boring and ordinary to look at, plus they don't have any exhausts to give the performance game away either for example.

ajprice

33,307 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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From that lot I'd take the Toyota smile .

Sporky

12,087 posts

93 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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blue al said:
Nice list although someone will be along shortly telling us all none of these are Q cars, a Audi S4 certainly isn’t
I don't think that generation looks much different from the 2.0tdi version. Debadge and put body coloured mirror caps on...

rossub

5,943 posts

219 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Gad-Westy said:
I can’t necessarily imagine it being great to drive but that Toyota is very cool. I know there’ll be some arguments about this but of all on that list, that one says q-car most to me. Rear lights are a bit much though. Are they standard?
Yes, unfortunately

5lab

1,908 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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That Volvo is an xc70 not a V70. Probably makes it more of a q car.

rossub

5,943 posts

219 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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My sleeper is the V60 version of that Volvo, with Polestar map. Also to be found under £10k.

330 bhp and 350 odd lb/ft… I’m sure when I overtake people enthusiastically there must be some thinking ‘was that a Volvo?’

cerb4.5lee

44,464 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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I remember having a bit of fun with a Jag S-Type R when I had the E92 M3 years back, and the Jag didn't go as well as I was expecting it to in fairness. However I have always liked them though.

Axeboy

386 posts

149 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Always liked the Blade.

That one seems priced high, they don't normally sell for anywhere near that. Decent part availability here, something a little different for £6k in my mind.

pb8g09

3,219 posts

98 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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5 years ago I bought a 7 year old 330d for £10k with half the mileage of all of these. Can’t help but feel splashing this kind of money on 15+ year old cars that aren’t even that quick for the amount they’ll cost to run delivers much value to me. I wonder if you upped it to £15-20k there might be some more tempting metal.

If I was feeling fruity I’d got for the Jag on this list.

Cambs_Stuart

3,528 posts

113 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Robigus said:
86wasagoodyear said:
I still miss my Subaru Legacy mk.4 3.0 estate, which only had to go due to the fuel costs for a long daily commute to a new job. In today's remote-work world it wouldn't have been an issue. Would be top of this list for me.
Robiga collected me from the station in ours last night and commented on just how lovely it is. My aged mother describes it as the best car she’s ever known.

Where we live, it doesn’t draw glances from those whom we would not wish it to.

Last weekend a JLR engineer told me he liked the sound. cloud9

It does like a drink though.
I had a 4th gen manual 3.0 legacy estate. It was a fantastic car, one if the best all rounders I've ever had. But it was really thirsty and the VED was unpleasant. Next car will be a 5th gen import, if I can find one with a manual box.

mjlloyd500

246 posts

115 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Old jag for me and I only saw one yesterday